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Dark Steno
post Dec 4 2007, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Dec 4 2007, 11:57 AM)
How come no Chinese Empire, no Indian Empire nor the great Mongol Empire. I demand these empire always white empires. mad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Given the time span, the China dynasty didn't interested in adding more lands through power. India at that time wasn't India of now. It was separated kingdoms with different religions until British came and united them. On the other hand, even middle eastern empires weren't that aggressive to conquer more lands even though they'd encountered the far easteren kingdoms earlier than those europeans.
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post Dec 4 2007, 10:24 PM

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Well, what can you understand from the phrase 'Total War'? Means, full scale of wars and battles. Cities management, allies, and more importantly about real world are not really their main dish. Simply a game about war.

On the other hand, even if they included other races, this would make the game bigger in term of hard disk spaces. Plus, they only want to cope with European and American markets (developers).

Do you know that Koei made games like Sengoku Musou for PS2 whatsoever which simply about Chinese Romance of Three kingdoms and Japanese Warring States? The games sold pretty well in Asia. Right now, Koei already released a similar game about Frenchh and British 100 years war (Bladestorm). Guess what? Because the game has included France and Britain inside, the game sold pretty well in the West and also in Asia because people already know about the game. It is just about market needs.
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post Dec 5 2007, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:09 AM)
Like I said in the earlier page... this latest version concerns the rise of Europe and the conflicts ranging from Trafalgar to the rise of Napoleon etc etc. There were NO SIGNIFICANT developments OUTSIDE of Europe at this period of time EXCLUDING the American War of Independence.
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I know and I like to tease fuji because he likes to complaint the same thing before (as in why China/etc. didn't included in the game?).
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post Apr 29 2008, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 29 2008, 12:29 AM)
this game make me think back medieval total war2......haha..my mighy France empire with king louise.....I just figuer out you can bride the Pope with money eveytime u attk christian country and almost make pope boikot you then bride him with 5k money then ur chrisian level will back to max againz and other country all no dare to all you back....haha

dunno this ship war can bride ppl or not le......money buy rules
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How do you bride a Pope? Marrying him? It's "bribe" la wei.
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post Sep 30 2008, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 30 2008, 06:02 PM)
The land battles looks good.Looking forward to this game too.

*Adds Empire Total War on the list.
I would love it if they go to WW1.

China 3 Kingdom will be damn awesome.
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3 kingdom? the series of 3 kingdom already licensed by koei.
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post Nov 19 2008, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(yo el rey @ Nov 17 2008, 02:33 PM)
The British and the Spaniards got their ass kicked by the Dutch numerous times, one of the smallest countries in the world. The first faction I'm going to play with are the Dutch. Ever heard about the Spanish Treasure Fleet and Piet Hein or how Michiel de Ruyter whiped out most of the British fleet on the Thames? thumbup.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_Pieterszoon_Hein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway
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The means of 'one of the smallest countries in the world' is for current time. Back then, they're colonizing south east asia, africa and also south america.
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post Nov 19 2008, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Nov 19 2008, 09:55 AM)
looks like someone loves malaysian history  brows.gif
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Guess what? I'd an idea for something like nusantara total war. There were lots of kingdoms like malacca, johor-riau, sriwijaya, mataram, demak, aceh, khmer, thai, vietnam, brunei, sulu, moluccas, etc. and each have their own religions (islam, buddhism, hinduism, pagans) plus uniqueness (like archery was from chinese technology so malay kingdoms didn't really have them). just consider portuguese as mongols and dutch as timurids in m2tw and both brought christianity (catholics). While British brought Protestanism.

This is just my personal idea for making project to develop local games as well as ideas for my master degree. tho i have more other different ideas.
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post Jan 7 2009, 01:27 PM

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post Jan 13 2009, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jan 13 2009, 12:55 PM)
Too bad they do not have my fav faction the mongols completed.  cry.gif  cry.gif

I like the fire power that the mongols brought from China.  wub.gif
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Dude, Mongols only around early 1200s lah. And no, it wasn't from China entirely. You must understand that when the Mongols invading Europe, those groups weren't the ones who came from China. More like people from the steppes, crushing Abbasid and Khwarezmian kingdoms before going into Europe. Most technologies they brought to Europe were from those fallen kingdoms instead of China. That's just a little bit history for you.

Empire Total War is around the 18th centuries. The time where China already declined in its power.
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post Jan 13 2009, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jan 13 2009, 01:29 PM)
Err he was talking about Mediaval total war 2, and there was an incomplete mongol faction in that game, and I was replying to his post.

So you are saying that the cannons that they brought to Europe were from the steppes? Mongols never came from China they originated from mongolia ofcourse.

Thankyou teacher Dark Steno for your lesson.
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The origin of cannon is unclear though. Despite Chinese being the first who found gunpowder, it is unsure who actually proposed the idea of putting a big rounded metal into a tube where the tube then ignited to launch the rounded metal onto the target. There's a dispute about who actually using the cannon first; Mongols or Arabs? In fact, the recorded battle of the first usage of cannon was between Mongols and Mamluks that happened not far from Jerusalem. Even if its true that it were Mongols who brought the weapon to the battle, I believed the weapon was taken from the fallen kingdoms that stood along the path of the marauding Mongol armies. I don't really think that Mongols were that capable of doing things back then as they're being expansionists and aggressive. Of course, there's claim that it was Chinese who used a new weapon such as that but no physical evidence over that matter except something that proved to be a hundred years later than what the Arabs-Mongols did and also an account on historical journal.
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post Jan 13 2009, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jan 13 2009, 03:35 PM)
Well no matter who acctually started the use of cannons, in the game M2TW if Im not mistaken I think that the mongols had the biggest guns and rocket barrage weapons, thats why I wanted to play that faction but then again they do not have a complete faction. Such as no buiding structures and stuff. sad.gif
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That rocket barrage weapon was origin of Chinese. But it's not like what the game shows though. It's a multiple arrows launcher. In M2TW, the thing can destroy a stone wall (I tried it) but in reality, it's just a bunch of wooden arrows with metal tips that launched against the enemies.

QUOTE(frags @ Jan 13 2009, 03:57 PM)
What feature? You mean gun powder ah? Gun powder was available in Shogun Total War late game as Dutch expeditions set up missions in Japan and introduced Arquebusiers...well not so late game...more like mid game. You couldn't use them at all in rain...which was cool tongue.gif

PS : The expansion pack for Shogun was Mongol Invasion...So Mongols were there in total war games way back. They didn't have the rocket siege equipment...they had some sort of exploding grenade like thing.

EDIT : Historically a mongol invasion never happened...There was historical evidence of it being planned and even wreakages of invasion fleets of the coast of Japan...Some Japanese early writing cited intervention of the divine wind to help them stop that mongol invasions...
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Thus, the origin of Kamikaze appeared at that time. That grenade thing was naphta throwers (in M1TW, it was Naffatun).
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post Jan 14 2009, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jan 14 2009, 01:18 PM)
Sorry that Im being misleading. I mean the feature to unlock other factions after destroying them. BTW how many factions are there in shogun total war and did they have special formation like RTW?
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there are formations and such. actually factions and units are similar. because they're just a bunch of japanese with different clans.
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post Dec 25 2009, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Dec 25 2009, 05:43 PM)
Its a big game. I didn't buy it off Steam so I don't know the download size exactly. The game files are about 15GB after they are installed.
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same size.

 

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