Remember this movie..
where Dark Knight predict the collapse of Mortgage in US.
he put all his managed fund money to SHORT mortgage.

All ppl Laughed.
at the end. all ppl die laughing him.


i put in all my bonus SHORT BTC. from US36k.
wish me luck.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5083225

this kind of insurance against market downfall is actually exist?
sorry, i dont know anything about financial institution.

Actually thinking you are Michael Burry? PepeLaugh
never be a gay bear in a bull market kekw

U have better luck shorting Tesla as an S&P component than BTC.

All the best. Meanwhile hodl.

Thank you TS, i finally manage to let go my BTC at 36k.

This post has been edited by freeman1: Jan 6 2021, 01:18 PM

if you short real estate i can understand

but trying to short bitcoin which is a hedge AGAINST traditional assets is insane

for each Michael Burry there are 9999 Micheal Buried

This post has been edited by J1g54w: Jan 6 2021, 01:19 PM

Actually how to short bitcoin? Got such trade?

Yes

is not a conspiracy theory.

behind the latest, biggest ever bull run of BTC
was the major financial institution worldwide.


BTC provide them a "legit ground" to syphon public money BY

creating this Historical BULL RUN of BTC.

now btc market cap = $65.6B

these BULL run "HAS NO ACTUAL VALUE"
unless they cash out.

but the lastest bull run did attract alot people come in.

The historical Bear run of BTC is inevitable. is just a matter of WHEN.

can poor individual buy one?

You got balls to go against the trend, good luck

u just like most other in 2017~2018

when BTC hit the 1st historical BULL RUN

many people "said" it can goes 1M usd.

what happen next?

BTC Broke.

why?

Big player cash out.
Small player paid.

All the BULL RUN was "purposeful"
not fengshui ok?

BULL RUN, bring in MONEY from public
BEAR = BULL(major player) RUN

trend?

small fish can only see BULL Trend.


BTC never bear?

my friend...

It always a SINE wave form.

not rocket.

I have to watch the first one about 4 times in total to understand the whole trade thing, I'm not afraid to admit that I am pretty dumb for this kind of movies. I stopped the movie whenever I don't understand things I have to Google the for the terms.

Not saying it's going to 1M but you are predicting the top too soon

I love this movie! and also hope they can recreate margin call 2.

This post has been edited by feekle: Jan 6 2021, 01:26 PM

if your BTC profile already tipping 500% profit now.
are you really still holding? not attracted to cash out profit??



this is the trend.

The more the bull run,
most major player already / almost HIT their desired profit target.
major CASH OUT tsunami soon.

Of all the world financial asset and derivatives that u can short u choose btc. When economy bad btc up or down? Good luck

all it need was a major player 1st cash out.

a 10% sharp drop. will trigger CASH OUT tsunami

Be it stock market, real estate or crypto

It will and always be, controlled by the rich and powerful

You wan crypto
Easiest way, buy it with fiat
Most will just fomo buying it in
The rich push up the price
More ppl fomo in, pushing it higher
When the big player decided to cashout for fiat
Bang, it collapse.

Conclusion, don't too greedy.

What if the opposite happen? how much ur loss later ??

if raised to USD72000.
habis all money gone.

You missed the chance to name this thread "The BTC Short 2021"

nice fud faggot

ts for real?

ayam thought to short too, btc bullrun is fking ridiculous man, cb pure goreng shit

ts use wat platform to short? etoro cfd?

Dr Mike Burry wannabe Msia version. Good luck

This assessment I agree and on board but only after state of the union.

All in

Actually if anyone read up, recent buying wasnt the retailer, its more of the institutional player. What are they up to?

Short it when it's 100k la, not now.

Buttcoin to the moon.

2017 is the first bullrun? If that is the extent of your knowledge in this field, good luck TS, you'll need it.

By the way, any proof of you actually shorting this or just talk?

Hmm.. which platform allows this? Share lai

The big short is the collapse of the whole system
Bitcoin is just one part of the system

TS going to lose his ham ka ling bonus. rip

I wanna know too.

Parking ya.

Parking, ayam nak learn too.

You are playing against :

Institutional client
Government sovereign fund (like Temasek will buy btc as investment reserve)
Bank (building crypto exchange to serve its own client, and traditional client)

Btc will have a long bull run, correction definitely coming, but it will keep breaking ATH on almost weekly basis until February

Unless you have 1B to short, which only using 1% of ur fund to short, then good luck

I hope you are shorting to take profit when your already earn nice return

There are few platform to short using

Futures
Futures swap
Option
Margin

Pm me if you want open account

nearing CNY can la
coz thats the sentiment
always

unless ths year people use angpow buy some more

Institutional player are betting that crypto being legalized

BTC 37K, BBBBUUUU

Sheep minded investor.


current BTC total market cap around $66B
so, to raise another 10% in btc price per coin, you need $6.6B cash injection.
every next 10% raise to BTC is tougher and tougher.

who benefit from quick rise & QUICK DROP of price?
Big player ( which INCLUDE those institutional client you mentioned )

What they want is not BTC keep rising,
What they want is BTC Price volatility.

if BTC Price stagnant, they get nothing.

So, if no more power enough to rocket BTC Pricing,
They release the valve to make BTC price vomit.

as long as, quick rise, or quick drop, they earn quick profit.



ONLY SHEEP MINDED invest ON BULL ONLY

they already get what they want from BTC.

now BTC become a quick money syphon pool for them.

THey jerk up price, tons of sheep follow in.

I just wait the moment they release the valve.

sure, it'll drop, but when?

the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent

interesting move. my TA indicates price will continue to rise till almost 50k then drop to 20k. you could be right too but i would seriously caution you not to go all in on this short.

Bet on BULL IS NEVER AS GOOD AS
Bet on BEAR.

Bull is not stable

BEAR?

very very predictable.

Market Fear sentiment is much more predictable.

my indicator = A 10% single day sharp drop = valve released.

Crypto Markets Jump on OCC Approval for Banks to Use Blockchains
*U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/crypto-mark...ains-2021-01-04

There ain't no public blockchain without crypto, and there's only one public blockchain actively used.

i have no problem with shorting. i just dont think you got the level right. is this your first BTC bull market?

Your risk and reward is not worth also, i didn't expect you put your stop loss until this far

I think you meant to say current btc market cap is 690B, not 66B

66B probably the daily trading volume.

So, if you want to use market cap as comparison, it’s 1% of total market cap, which right now daily trading volume is already 10% of market cap.

New $$ of 10% out of daily trading volume is 6.6B yes, which is actually for now it’s easy

There are trillion and zillion of fund in the world

This post has been edited by blueblueoutofblue: Jan 7 2021, 11:29 AM

how did you short? you just sell and wait to buy back in or you use margin?
i dont have much experience with margin trading but this is the first time i heard margin call at 2x entry price.