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blueblueoutofblue
post Jan 7 2021, 04:38 AM

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QUOTE(lambsauce @ Jan 6 2021, 05:28 PM)
ts for real?

ayam thought to short too, btc bullrun is fking ridiculous man, cb pure goreng shit

ts use wat platform to short? etoro cfd?
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There are few platform to short using

Futures
Futures swap
Option
Margin

Pm me if you want open account
mousqy
post Jan 7 2021, 05:45 AM

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nearing CNY can la
coz thats the sentiment
always

unless ths year people use angpow buy some more
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post Jan 7 2021, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 7 2021, 12:12 AM)
Actually if anyone read up, recent buying wasnt the retailer, its more of the institutional player. What are they up to? unsure.gif  hmm.gif
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Institutional player are betting that crypto being legalized
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post Jan 7 2021, 10:23 AM

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BTC 37K, BBBBUUUU rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 7 2021, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(blueblueoutofblue @ Jan 7 2021, 04:36 AM)
You are playing against :

Institutional client
Government sovereign fund (like Temasek will buy btc as investment reserve)
Bank (building crypto exchange to serve its own client, and traditional client)

Btc will have a long bull run, correction definitely coming, but it will keep breaking ATH on almost weekly basis until February

Unless you have 1B to short, which only using 1% of ur fund to short, then good luck

I hope you are shorting to take profit when your already earn nice return
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Sheep minded investor.


current BTC total market cap around $66B
so, to raise another 10% in btc price per coin, you need $6.6B cash injection.
every next 10% raise to BTC is tougher and tougher.

who benefit from quick rise & QUICK DROP of price?
Big player ( which INCLUDE those institutional client you mentioned )

What they want is not BTC keep rising,
What they want is BTC Price volatility.

if BTC Price stagnant, they get nothing.

So, if no more power enough to rocket BTC Pricing,
They release the valve to make BTC price vomit.

as long as, quick rise, or quick drop, they earn quick profit.



ONLY SHEEP MINDED invest ON BULL ONLY
SUSifourtos
post Jan 7 2021, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jan 7 2021, 09:41 AM)
Institutional player are betting that crypto being legalized
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they already get what they want from BTC.

now BTC become a quick money syphon pool for them.

THey jerk up price, tons of sheep follow in.

I just wait the moment they release the valve.
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post Jan 7 2021, 10:30 AM

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sure, it'll drop, but when?

the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent
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post Jan 7 2021, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 6 2021, 01:11 PM)

Remember this movie..
where Dark Knight predict the collapse of Mortgage in US.
he put all his managed fund money to SHORT mortgage.

All ppl Laughed.
at the end. all ppl die laughing him.
i put in all my bonus SHORT BTC. from US36k.
wish me luck.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5083225
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interesting move. my TA indicates price will continue to rise till almost 50k then drop to 20k. you could be right too but i would seriously caution you not to go all in on this short.
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post Jan 7 2021, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(machonacho @ Jan 7 2021, 10:30 AM)
sure, it'll drop, but when?

the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Jan 7 2021, 10:32 AM)
interesting move. my TA indicates price will continue to rise till almost 50k then drop to 20k. you could be right too but i would seriously caution you not to go all in on this short.
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Bet on BULL IS NEVER AS GOOD AS
Bet on BEAR.

Bull is not stable

BEAR?

very very predictable.

Market Fear sentiment is much more predictable.

my indicator = A 10% single day sharp drop = valve released.
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post Jan 7 2021, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jan 7 2021, 09:41 AM)
Institutional player are betting that crypto being legalized
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Crypto Markets Jump on OCC Approval for Banks to Use Blockchains
*U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/crypto-mark...ains-2021-01-04

There ain't no public blockchain without crypto, and there's only one public blockchain actively used.
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post Jan 7 2021, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 7 2021, 10:35 AM)
Bet on BULL IS NEVER AS GOOD AS
Bet on BEAR.

Bull is not stable

BEAR?

very very predictable.

Market Fear sentiment is much more predictable.

my indicator = A 10% single day sharp drop = valve released.
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i have no problem with shorting. i just dont think you got the level right. is this your first BTC bull market?
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post Jan 7 2021, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 6 2021, 06:11 PM)
if raised to USD72000.
habis all money gone.
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Your risk and reward is not worth also, i didn't expect you put your stop loss until this far
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post Jan 7 2021, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 7 2021, 10:27 AM)
Sheep minded investor.
current BTC total market cap around $66B
so, to raise another 10% in btc price per coin, you need $6.6B cash injection.
every next 10% raise to BTC is tougher and tougher.

who benefit from quick rise & QUICK DROP of price?
Big player ( which INCLUDE those institutional client you mentioned )

What they want is not BTC keep rising,
What they want is BTC Price volatility.

if BTC Price stagnant, they get nothing.

So, if no more power enough to rocket BTC Pricing,
They release the valve to make BTC price vomit.

as long as, quick rise, or quick drop, they earn quick profit.
ONLY SHEEP MINDED invest ON BULL ONLY
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I think you meant to say current btc market cap is 690B, not 66B

66B probably the daily trading volume.

So, if you want to use market cap as comparison, it’s 1% of total market cap, which right now daily trading volume is already 10% of market cap.

New $$ of 10% out of daily trading volume is 6.6B yes, which is actually for now it’s easy

There are trillion and zillion of fund in the world

This post has been edited by blueblueoutofblue: Jan 7 2021, 11:29 AM
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post Jan 7 2021, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 6 2021, 05:11 PM)
if raised to USD72000.
habis all money gone.
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how did you short? you just sell and wait to buy back in or you use margin?
i dont have much experience with margin trading but this is the first time i heard margin call at 2x entry price.
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