Source: Mandatory Covid-19 vaccination Yes or No

yes please

im tired of this lockdown/procedures.

Vaccine issue is not just a health policy issue, it is also a financial issue. Due to cost, Malaysia so far has not embarked on a 100% vaccination approach so there will be a group of people who will not be vaccinated unless they are willing to pay for it. So for those who are worried about the safety, obviously they should be able to choose to not be vaccinated unless they are under special circumstances. The special circumstances that will require you to be vaccinated I think will be in health industry, which you are facing a choice of high risk of being infected or be the first to use a new vaccine, so unless you quit job otherwise it is a tough choice either way and government will probably just force the vaccine on you. Another special circumstance will be if you want to travel oversea to a country which has embarked on mass vaccination, pretty sure that country would not want a foreign visitor wasting their effort by bring in virus into their country again.

So only if you are not in health industry, nor plan to travel oversea, that you will have a choice. Otherwise you have no choice but to do it.

Also, a mass vaccination approach main objective is try to bring covid under control much as MCO is, the goal is to expect very low number of local cases after that is done. So the vaccination processes need to be carried out quite quickly so that at a certain period when the vaccine is most effective, majority of the local populations are immune in order to stop the spread more effectively. It should not be drag too long such as a few years to vaccinate people because the vaccine itself is expected to be most effective for months only.

Over the long term, it is not sure how often people need to be re-vaccinated again. It all depends on whether covid will seemingly disappear after most of the world is vaccinated, or it becomes a recurrent outbreak from time to time. The first mass vaccination in a way is a grand test to study the effect, and hopefully achieve the most positive outcome ie truly eradicate covid to almost non-existent.

This post has been edited by happyking4ever: Jan 5 2021, 12:47 PM

Since this isn't Kopitiam,

I'm in the position of having some worry with the vaccines being developed in a short time span. I don't mind taking the vaccine myself since I'm still young and somewhat fit, but I worry what effects it would have on older people like my parents.

No. Any attempt to do so will be met with violent and deadly repercussions from me. I will kill those who try to force vaccinate me.

AFAIK

Vaccine cannot be given to pregnant and children below 16. So those criteria alone made COVID19 non-mandatory.

The vaccine also does not prevent someone to get the virus and become contagious, so there is chance people still can spread the virus after vaccination.

The vaccine will reduce the effect of the virus, preventing serious implication, illness and death.

So what our DG had in mind is what I agree too.


https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021...-says-health-dg

There are those who are allergic to vaccination.

But...but...but we might not all get the shots right?

Also, we're not sure what are the long-term effects if any.

Hopefully, it doesn't come to this stage la.

There won’t be forced vaccination because you’re not living in China

Even WHO is against country which are doing forced vaccination

If it’s a single then will be easier to forced vaccination

Definitely no. I am sure there are other cheaper and safer solution. BTW, most Malaysian cases are ASYMPTOMATIC or MILD. Why risk ourselves; let others be the front-liner.

Malaysia is likely to open up soon irregardless. Malaysia has much lower density compared with many parts of the World. Much lower cases per million population THAN AVERAGE.

Cucuk ady oso need wear masks n follow sop, until pandemic really over.

Frontlines may require. But x law 2 force it upon d rest of us. But then if v r x sick / anything why need 2 b vaccinated? X everyone take 2 vaccine nicely. Those with allergies, various medical conditions taking medications may x b suitable candidates.

At least travelling will be allowed, either thru green bubble or vaccine jabbers

Locally ady allowed.

My concern is international travel. V knoe there r different strains across d globe. V might b infected with another variant when v travel! Now d virus ady mutated to covid20, soon covid21... does that mean v hv 2 keep taking d jabs forever ?!

Definitely no. We dont know what are the side effects of the vaccine.

Wait few months later, news come out the vaccine cause this & that issue and have to take other meds to counter the side effects. As with any new meds, there will be issues.

Already got people die shortly after taking the vaccine.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/202...ine-report/amp/

Let others be the guinea pig test out the vaccine.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Jan 5 2021, 08:51 PM

Question is it worth investing billions annually (covid keep mutating, vacinnation is x 1x thing) to tackle the 1% mortality. Food for tot.

I'm sure the researchers / medical experts have already taken into account that possibility.

Without the vaccine, we'll be in limbo forever.

Dunno, too rush, maybe x?

Yeah, w/o tat oso stuck....

Malaysia has not booked any stock for people who are willing to pay for it.
This is affects the PR, MM2H (usually elderly) and expat communities. None of them are allowed to travel abroad for alternative sources.

Got rumor, certain hospital giv notice for all staff,
If no take vaccine, prepare leave the job...
Hope not truth la..

herd immunity inkambing, who care about vaccination

Need 70-80% population 2 b infected 4 herd immunity 2 happen. Loooong way 2 go!

But drFauci also advised trump ( who ady kena) to get d jab. So, infected /x doesn’t matter! Still need 2 b jab, ok!

Institutions like Banks, gov/ glc agencies can also make it compulsory, I guess. Big enough 2 mandate.

That depends on whether Malaysia will later allow special permit for certain companies to import extra vaccine on their owns for profit purpose, just to vaccinate those rich folks who prefer to pay a premium to choose which vaccine they will use.

vaccine free for all....compulsory

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 13 2021, 07:51 AM

That's gotta be a NO from me.

I would like to see vaccines being tried on the owners, CEOs and national leaders first, witnessed by independent commissions.

If they are ok, then I'm ok.

It depends whether government or private’s hospitals but it’s not rumour it’s the truth as it seems mandatory for all healthcare staff to jab

Happening already as smaller pharma company will try to make money through local cronies as MYEG, Ho Wah Genting and Bintan Kinten

Let’s see how Malaysia gonna start fill to finish from Sinovac and Gamaleya

Sarawak is looking for 400 volunteer for vaccine trial according to Borneo Post report.

Malaysia is also having 3000 person trial on China's IMBCAMS vaccine according to NST.

Doesn't matter because gov stand is not mandatory

But it may be mandatory for:
Frontliners and international travel depending on location

This post has been edited by sakuraboo: Jan 7 2021, 02:12 PM

And a different list of acceptable vaccinations depending on where you are going (politically driven)

Won’t be possible because it will be politically driven by UN and WHO

It might be even also WHO approved vaccine list together IATA Travelpass framework on blockchain with secured QR instead

Is vaccine really proven to help? But if virus mutate, then jab vaccine only protect against the known strain, not the mutated one. So how? Jab newer vaccine when available? Then this will keep on happening again and again and we get jab jab jab till no end.

Chances of getting something accepted universally in USA, Europe and Russia and China - not so good

We already have many cases of faked COVID tests here, so faked vaccination logs is going to be a nightmare

most likely compulsory testing upon arrival
- PCR/ antigen test: whether carrying the virus or not
- antibody: immunized or not

Cannot go SG work, how?
Forever stay jb?

Fake test are now are easy being because it is paper based using a home scanner done easily

Try faking ICAO compliant passport as it’s not that easy to fake vaccination logs using electronic based using secured QR and ICAO chips system as it’s already adopted by more than 100 countries since 2008

The various vaccines work in very different ways, so I would expect each to have its own antibody signature

The 4 vaccine approaches are the same in the terms of the end results just that efficacy and antibodies level are different from patient to patient

The question now is the safety level because what happen to viral vector vaccines as it is only designed currently to be able to fight COVID20

Most likely in the future there would be probably yearly booster just like pneumococcal13 or 23 vaccine

Will be likely to seen in 2022 whether a single booster would be out because the difficulty and time needed to research again the study for any mutations which is why JnJ gonna be out with phase 3 result most likely early q2 and Arcturus gonna be phase 3 later in the year

KJ said herd immunity will only be achieved up to 18 months from now.
Anybody working in tourism will have to starve until then.