no shop want help accurate alignment one. blame here n there.
have u found official sc with these machine ?
[Alignment Guide/General Discussion], How to interpret wheel alignment number?
[Alignment Guide/General Discussion], How to interpret wheel alignment number?
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Jun 17 2024, 11:21 PM
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no shop want help accurate alignment one. blame here n there.
have u found official sc with these machine ? |
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Jun 17 2024, 11:24 PM
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btw inspect ur shock mount n bush all got senget or not
mine too mount is broken. that y cannot center line unless hispeed |
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Jun 19 2024, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 17 2024, 11:21 PM) Not sure of what you meant to say, the image below suggests this Silver Dove machine is an HPA C400. I'm sure my shock mount bushings (and other suspension bushes) are not loose or senget. Anyway whenever a suspension components like shocks or arms etc senget, it would be reflected very bizarre or out of mind alignment numbers in a properly set-up alignment process. But heck, my current problem is the appropriate alignment numbers are not displayed by Silver Dove whilst making adjustments to the front toes/cambers 'blindly' - this to me is a slip shot job and/or a scam as far as correcting vehicle pulling left AND steering wheel off-centre to the right phenomena is concerned! This post has been edited by zeng: Jun 22 2024, 08:23 PM voscar liked this post
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Nov 4 2024, 06:44 PM
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bro. i met an issue with toe and torque steer.
old workshop did -0⁰7' toe out all was fine so im changing tyres in new workshop who put everthing to 0⁰ otw back i driving straight, steering direction keep on change between left and right bias, depend on gas pedal. complain to shop, foreman told me chassis leg broken so fix them first. u got idea? This post has been edited by ktek: Nov 4 2024, 06:46 PM |
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May 7 2025, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 4 2024, 06:44 PM) bro. i met an issue with toe and torque steer. Oops.... apology for being late to the party.old workshop did -0⁰7' toe out all was fine so im changing tyres in new workshop who put everthing to 0⁰ otw back i driving straight, steering direction keep on change between left and right bias, depend on gas pedal. complain to shop, foreman told me chassis leg broken so fix them first. u got idea? Generally your situation may happen with excessively high front total (meaning LHS+RHS) Cambers (be it negatives or positives), excessively high front total toe outs, uneven side to side wear profile on front tyres, excessively low front total positive casters etc.. Excessively high rear total toe outs may be a source of issue too. Without complete front and rear wheel alignment numbers, it is hard to 'speculate or predict' imo. This post has been edited by zeng: May 7 2025, 03:26 PM |
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May 7 2025, 06:35 PM
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yes. tyre & all mess up d. i found another proper shop with knowledgeable young sifu. after i mention to him, he test drriving (long) before attach car to machine. just one time job. resolve with satisfaction. btw it is generic brand not hunter zeng liked this post
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May 8 2025, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(ktek @ May 7 2025, 06:35 PM) yes. tyre & all mess up d. i found another proper shop with knowledgeable young sifu. After hearing your annoyance and then spending a 'longer' time test driving prior putting your vehicle on the alignment machine is an indication of his seriousness in identifying the real roots of misalignment. after i mention to him, he test driving (long) before attach car to machine. just one time job. resolve with satisfaction. btw it is generic brand not hunter It would be nice after test driving that he asks whether your prefer a tighter or looser steering wheel feel at turns like...... But alas our slipshod practitioners here... Anyway it's nice that you're happy with the outcome and happy motoring with a nicely done wheel alignment job..... This post has been edited by zeng: May 8 2025, 08:15 AM ktek liked this post
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Jun 19 2025, 08:58 AM
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Hey guys!
Planning to do tire swap and balancing with 3rd party shops instead of doing it at SC Any shop to recommend in Klang Valley? I heard good things about Btw do these shops remove the balancing weight or do they keep on adding more and more as time passes by if required? ![]() Is Kee Hin the go to and king of rims? |
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Jun 20 2025, 08:58 AM
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balancer weights ideally removed and then run it on the machine.
however i can tell you 90% of the shops the balancers have never been calibrated over the years. Another issue is the weights, some of these cheapo weights will have you chassing weights, keep adding and keep removing and back and forth. My personal rule, if i need to add more then 30g, i end up getting the shop to rotate the tire on the rim. and try again. one of the wheel balancers that i love are hunter's, normally only found in premium shops. These machines are spot on. Those shops cost more to do the balancing but ive never had an issue, and with the smart weight option, they will rotate the tire on the wheel to minimize the amount of weights used. QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 19 2025, 08:58 AM) Hey guys! Planning to do tire swap and balancing with 3rd party shops instead of doing it at SC Any shop to recommend in Klang Valley? I heard good things about Btw do these shops remove the balancing weight or do they keep on adding more and more as time passes by if required? ![]() Is Kee Hin the go to and king of rims? |
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Jun 20 2025, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 19 2025, 08:58 AM) Hey guys! Hi Calvin, Planning to do tire swap and balancing with 3rd party shops instead of doing it at SC Any shop to recommend in Klang Valley? I heard good things about Btw do these shops remove the balancing weight or do they keep on adding more and more as time passes by if required? ![]() Is Kee Hin the go to and king of rims? I've been patronising Kim Heng SS14/1 for a decade or two for their quality workmanship and friendliness. About a month ago they did an internal patching (not plug type) on my Avanza rear left nail-punctured tyre. During tyre balancing, and to my'surprise' they took the trouble to zero out completely the unbalanced "outside 5 grams inside 5 grams combo" out-of-balance tyre on a non-steering rear wheel - a scenario some or most tyre shops would call it quit and consider job done. Another tyre shop recommended by someone in this thread is Weng Tat along the same road, which I find it's space is tight and crowded. Tyreplus- SL Car Care Klang is another tyre shop I would recommend. Hope it helps. Note: I visited Kee Hin some two years ago for a wheel alignment correction job on my Avanza, not for accelerated tyre wear problem which my Avanza didn't have, but for normal and 'simple' problems of car drifting/pulling to left hand side and steering wheel crooked/off centre to one side. Instead of resolving them, the two problems had gotten worse immediately after the job. Hence, beware of it's wheel alignment competency! This post has been edited by zeng: Jun 20 2025, 06:04 PM |
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Jun 20 2025, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(scoupe @ Jun 20 2025, 08:58 AM) balancer weights ideally removed and then run it on the machine. Thanks Scoupe! Haha will look around if the shops that I head to have hunter's machine.. All my life I have actually only gotten the SC to do it for me, until the last time during my last servicehowever i can tell you 90% of the shops the balancers have never been calibrated over the years. Another issue is the weights, some of these cheapo weights will have you chassing weights, keep adding and keep removing and back and forth. My personal rule, if i need to add more then 30g, i end up getting the shop to rotate the tire on the rim. and try again. one of the wheel balancers that i love are hunter's, normally only found in premium shops. These machines are spot on. Those shops cost more to do the balancing but ive never had an issue, and with the smart weight option, they will rotate the tire on the wheel to minimize the amount of weights used. I realised that the tires were not swapped and such a waste of time to head back to the SC to get them to swap, re-align and balance it again. The only reason I know it's because my front tires and rear tires are different brand QUOTE(zeng @ Jun 20 2025, 11:14 AM) Hi Calvin, Thanks Zeng! Will definitely give Kim Heng a try next week..I've been patronising Kim Heng SS14/1 for a decade or two for their quality workmanship and friendliness. About a month ago they did an internal patching (not plug type) on my Avanza rear left nail-punctured tyre. During tyre balancing, and to my'surprise' they took the trouble to zero out completely the unbalanced "outside 5 grams inside 5 grams combo" out-of-balance tyre on a non-steering rear wheel - a scenario some or most tyre shops would call it quit and consider job done. Another tyre shop recommended by someone in this thread is Weng Tat along the same road, which I find it's space is tight and crowded. Tyreplus- SL Car Care Klang is another tyre shop I would recommend. Hope it helps. Note: I visited Kee Hin some two years ago for a wheel alignment correction job on my Avanza, not for accelerated tyre wear problem which my Avanza didn't have, but for normal and 'simple' problems of car drifting/pulling to left hand side and steering wheel crooked/off centre to one side. Instead of resolving them, the two problems had gotten worse immediately *after* the job. Hence, beware of it's wheel alignment competency! zeng liked this post
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Jun 21 2025, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(scoupe @ Jun 20 2025, 08:58 AM) balancer weights ideally removed and then run it on the machine. however i can tell you 90% of the shops the balancers have never been calibrated over the years. Another issue is the weights, some of these cheapo weights will have you chassing weights, keep adding and keep removing and back and forth. My personal rule, if i need to add more then 30g, i end up getting the shop to rotate the tire on the rim. and try again. Generally concur with your position above, bro. QUOTE one of the wheel balancers that i love are hunter's, normally only found in premium shops. These machines are spot on. Those shops cost more to do the balancing but ive never had an issue, and with the smart weight option, they will rotate the tire on the wheel to minimize the amount of weights used. Are you referring to Road Force Balancer, vs the conventional static/dynamic balancers commonly found in almost all local tyre shops? |
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Does anyonw know how much does Weng Tat Tyre Service or Kim Heng charges for Alignment and Balancing for Honda HRV?
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Jun 24 2025, 02:54 PM
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yes the road force balancers are the best in my opinion. as they dont just sell u the machine, it also requires the team to periodically calibrate and maintain the machine QUOTE(zeng @ Jun 21 2025, 10:17 AM) zeng liked this post
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Jun 24 2025, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(JON97 @ Jun 24 2025, 11:49 AM) Does anyonw know how much does Weng Tat Tyre Service or Kim Heng charges for Alignment and Balancing for Honda HRV? Lately for a punctured tyre, I paid Kim Heng RM10 for balancing and RM3x(?) for internal mushroom patching. Note: Internal patching is RM35, up from last year's RM30. It charges RM10 for external plug type repair. No idea for Weng Tat though. This post has been edited by zeng: Jun 25 2025, 05:56 PM |
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I send my car for alignment as when drive straight the steering is turn right.....
But the shop when do alignment no pump all 4 tyre balance.... But after done, drive steering not steering to right anymore... But when I send the same car few weeks again to check brake... The alignment feel off and steering need turn to right abit to keep car straight.... Should I just send to service centre or find other shop? |
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Jun 24 2025, 04:50 PM) I send my car for alignment as when drive straight the steering is turn right..... IMO bring back to the same shop. If that still doesn't work. Then bring else where.But the shop when do alignment no pump all 4 tyre balance.... But after done, drive steering not steering to right anymore... But when I send the same car few weeks again to check brake... The alignment feel off and steering need turn to right abit to keep car straight.... Should I just send to service centre or find other shop? |
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Jun 24 2025, 05:56 PM
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Hi guys. Can recommend 15inch tyre that can last long and good price?
Second car seldom drive, just need to replace the aging tyre since i saw a few small line crack on the side already. The current tyre around 3years old. |
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