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post Aug 10 2021, 11:59 AM

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I'm searching for Eames Herman Miller and know that the authorised reseller is Trax but came across Dsignhaus selling it as well. So after getting the quote form Trax, the price is 8x of Dsignhaus, anyone whom have buy from Dsignhaus mind to share why it this?
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post Aug 11 2021, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 11 2021, 11:32 AM)
the DsignHaus one is replica or authorized remade of the Eames lounge chair? the replica is pretty affordable n the original remade ones are very exp
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Not sure about that, but comparing just the EAMES AL GROUP EXECUTIVE CHAIR which cost only Rm1,700++ from Dsignhaus to Trax Rm12,000++ sound alarming.

Did email Dsignhaus asking about the warranty but yet to receive any reply.


Beside that, anyone here did purchased HM Aeron from a Shopee sites? Wondering how the warranty work, whether HM Malaysia willing to honour it?
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post Aug 14 2021, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(masahito @ Aug 14 2021, 12:33 AM)
8k for replica eames, you kena con. a decent rep on taobao is about 3000rmb
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You mistaken I've yet to even order it, just asking around whether Dsignhaus is selling a replica?

If it a replica then it cost around 1.7k not 8k. The actual authorised dealer Trax is selling at 12k for actual eames.

QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 14 2021, 08:11 PM)
how do you all know if the herman miller is original or not?

For an example like this seller, i wonder if the photos in the reviews are actually fake buyers or not.

https://shopee.com.my/%E3%80%90USA-Original...5326?position=0
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Haha, I did came across this seller as well. Look legit from the buyer ratings with photo. But say if it a real HM, not sure Malaysia AD will honour the 12 years warranty for it.

It a shame if HM can't honour it with these enormous price tag.

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post Aug 14 2021, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 14 2021, 10:17 PM)
The only AD is trax right?
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Should be, can't find other then Trax from HM official website.
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post Aug 15 2021, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 14 2021, 10:35 PM)
There’s a Herman Miller seller in carousel too. Seems trusty with the box, don’t know.
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Even if it trusted seller, but in the end whether worth to save few hundred or thousand to just give up the 12 years warranty.

Have to find someone whom did purchased it through the carousel and ask a favour to verify whether the chair is under warranty coverage from Trax.

I read through the HM's FAQ:
"1. What can I do about a Herman Miller product I bought from a reseller that wasn’t authorized and now the product needs to be repaired?

Your best option is to contact the reseller, who can perhaps make the repair for you. Because Herman Miller can’t guarantee the condition or authenticity of the components used by unauthorized resellers, these products wouldn’t be covered by Herman Miller’s warranty. Buying from an authorized Herman Miller reseller gives you two advantages. First is authenticity. If the product comes from an authorized reseller, you can be certain it’s the real thing. Second is warranty. Herman Miller and its authorized resellers stand behind every Herman Miller product and have the ability to make repairs, if needed.


Came the second one
2. What if I’ve moved and need service for my Herman Miller product?

Visit our Dealer and Retailer locator to find the one nearest your current location. Contact them, and they can verify warranty coverage and coordinate repair or replacement."


So based on second FAQ, if the actual buyer from carousel can verify the coverage with Trax. Then mean warranty still available internationally.

Be WARNED, (some user posted this) HM warranty is only applicable to original owner and not transferable.


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post Aug 15 2021, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 15 2021, 07:20 PM)
The non-transferable warranty I just get to know about it from the Carousell seller also. I asked about the warranty and he said it’s to contact him and he will ask the supplier. And one of his reasons is that most parts only covered up to 5 years in actual fact. It’s 1K difference from Trax prices and comes with the headrest.

Here I’m thinking, if I’m gonna buy such an expensive chair, I should just invest in authorised dealer despite it being 1K more and probably another 1K I need to look at if I want to fork out for the headrest. So that I will forever have a peace of mind.

But on the other hand, that seller is able to quote at least RM2K cheaper, and with the Atlas Headrest, quite a steal too!


What would you do yourself?
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Same situation, I still contemplating whether to order it through Shopee. If it a real HM, mean it a direct from factory or it targeted for china market.



QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 15 2021, 07:47 PM)
if can wait (10+ weeks?) n price diff not too huge, just buy new from AD..paying for piece of mind.

if can't wait, condition very good, pricing also ok, just buy used. the chairs even without warranty are made to last.
worst case if one of the part broke, just order the specific parts to replace, the HM chair (embody in my case) is pretty easy to service
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Haha true just pay more for piece of mind, but being Malaysian can only say that warranty actually does not work well over here.

When come to claiming warranty, Malaysia's seller will 1st try a way to push the blame on buyer and void the warranty.

Ordering the parts for replacement is one of the solutions, but again won't be easy in Malaysia where AD might not entertain.


By the way, what the material used on your HM Embody? Steel, Carbon or Graphite?

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post Aug 16 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 15 2021, 09:11 PM)
The same shopee seller?

Yeah. I would assume that the AD would be more careful in their dealings since the customers they are targeting are on the higher side. Besides, it’s possible to lodge complaints I would think.
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Should be, shop name: elitism.


QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 15 2021, 09:15 PM)
oh, that's great..unless there isn't much to customise or they restock full spec, etc.
For the embody, basically can customise quite a number of parts

I don't think there is any fake HM, just garbage warranty as hjh87 mentioned laugh.gif
yup, warranty in MY is usually hit n miss. even AD might not entertain returns within 30 days for HM in MY laugh.gif

graphite color for both base and frame, black for the balance fabric
can never go wrong with full black
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Cool, saw the new HM Logitech Embody and it kind of special with a blue back drool.gif .



QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 16 2021, 10:04 AM)
By the way, Trax still has stocks for the Size C HM Aeron.
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Maybe you can pay them a visit to try out the size C, as my brother suggest me to avoid size C due to the fact that it quite big for us Malaysian. He is currently using a size B Aeron.

Haha, if you going ahead with size B and ordering with Trax. Can let me know whether they will sell it at the discounted price on a new restock?

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post Aug 16 2021, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 16 2021, 05:46 PM)
My size is Size A yo. but based on all the measurements, seats depth and etc... I think Size A will be very small and no rooms for extra maneuvers. I will opt for Size B.
How much is the discounted price? you mean the one they showed on the website? Currently it's selling at RM6.1K. Already got stocks for Size B by the way.
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The discounted price I mentioned is the 6.1k, nice to have B back in stock.

Waiting for your wonderful review on Aeron brows.gif
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post Aug 17 2021, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(boyslikeboys @ Aug 16 2021, 08:52 PM)
I saw the 6.1k but do we know if it’s fully loaded? Any idea on the caster as well? The information is a quite vague.

I might just take the plunge to start my own spree. 😍
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Can't tell whether it full loaded, but the it stated BB type of casters (carpet type).


QUOTE(Exoflare @ Aug 17 2021, 08:49 AM)
Trax furniture! I’m still looking out for an affiliate partnership with these dudes (at least five people have bought Aerons after viewing my videos) but it ain’t happening yet - still gotta see what I can hustle up 😭

They just opened up for showroom viewings though!

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Headrest this I don’t really know - I got one Suspension one already and it’s been my workhorse for the longest time (am waiting for cushion). I think it was about 800? They included a hundred something for the tax plus delivery I guess.
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Hope you get that affiliate partnership, so can we get more discount rclxms.gif
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post Aug 17 2021, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 17 2021, 12:17 PM)
hjh87 FYI, Trax uses GDEX to deliver.
I would have expected them to have their own fleets.
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Ordered?

Haha, their delivery mentioned 1 driver and assistant. Maybe due to outside of klang valley then GDex delivery guy cum assistant biggrin.gif .
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post Aug 19 2021, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 19 2021, 10:03 AM)
hjh87 I received my chair already. Ordered on Monday and received on Wednesday.

I bought from the authorised dealer - Trax Furniture. They came with their own fleet after all, not Gdex.

The chair is amazing, the quality is really good and the mesh quality is solid and extremely comfortable. It doesn’t bite into your skin nor scrap on your skin to cause discomfort.

However, within one hour of receiving the chair, I realised that the tilt mechanism cannot recline. I read through manuals and guide and etc, still unable to solve it. So I contacted their WhatsApp number. The service person tried to solve my problems but after some hoo haa, they managed to arrange a guy to come and inspect within the same day. And true enough, it was a faulty unit. He opened up the box and all to inspect, there was no issues with the mechanics, but the chair just won’t tilt and stuck in the tilt forward position. Finally Trax decided to do 1 on 1 exchange for me, but gotta wait until next week.

Despite my disappointment, I am so fucking glad that I didn’t decide to purchase from resellers from Shopee or Carousel and save on the RM1K. Can you imagine if this random thing happens? I don’t know how the hell im going to claim warranty or to get it exchanged! While I believe issues like mine happen far and in between, and in my case I got very unlucky? But still, just imagine if the kind of headaches that I would have to go through….

So right now I’m sitting on the faulty chair, patiently waiting for the new unit to come. I hope Trax Furniture honours their words. Since they confirmed it via their WhatsApp number that they will arrange an exchange, and it’ will be another new unit.

That’s all. Haha!  sweat.gif
Note: I still don’t understand why I have to wait until next week though. Boo.
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Good to hear that they will do a 1 to 1 exchange. But funny that, they did not check the unit out first before deliver to you. Sound like planning to sell lemon unit, and hope customer do not notice and accepted the chair as it is.

Nevertheless do enjoy the "infamous" chair brows.gif , HM does not even need to do any marketing for it. Just like how Toyota Hilux branding work from middle east biggrin.gif
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post Aug 19 2021, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 19 2021, 05:10 PM)
I think they ship it as it is. The box is never opened until I did. Cause HM ships the chair fully assembled one.
This type of mechanism problem cannot run one la. I don’t think they knew about it. It’s too freaking obvious and basic mechanism to actually try to con customers. Also their company obviously aims for high paying customers, so they do need to maintain certain reputations.
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True, anyway did you enquire about the headrest? As it will be easier and quicker to order it directly from them.


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post Aug 19 2021, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 19 2021, 06:38 PM)
They don’t sell. I asked before. This one I ordered from another Carousell seller. Will come next week or so.

But the chair also will have to wait until next week only can exchange, cause they have limited manpower. Oh well.
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Cool, plan to pay them a visit and try out the chairs before placing order.
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post Aug 23 2021, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 23 2021, 01:34 PM)
Did you manage to try out the chair?

I finally got my exchange and everything is working out so far. But I do think that getting a headrest will definitely make the overall experience much more pleasant and comfortable.
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Not so soon, quite troublesome to cross state at this period of time.

 

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