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Moogle Stiltzkin
post Sep 16 2025, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jul 20 2025, 01:45 PM)
Good... But budget 500 only.

Good one costs 7k bro.

For 500 you can't buy anything. Even the low quality am office one also about 1.5k. Better adjust your expectations
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actually rm500 can buy tmax gaming chair shopee for that price.

issue though, the chair won't last. for myself the base crack, it probably can't take my weight. base replacement not covered under warranty (which is essentially no warranty rolleyes.gif )

If you buy chair check what weight it support. These cheaper chairs with plastic base, might not be able to handle heavy users sad.gif

replacement base metal about rm50

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post Sep 16 2025, 09:48 AM

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i went for a Xpanse LS900 6D armrest pro. Did i make a mistake?

It's a mesh design chair. Previously i went for a cheaper hard cushion one by tmax. But problem with that chair was the fabric tore off, it wore out in less than 2 years, and the plastic chair legs broke.

This new chair i am getting has metal legs. I hope it's good but not sure.

installation looks easy



review (there are a few variations for this chair so this review may not 100% apply )




Alternatively there was the Hbada E3






Looks quite similar to the Xpanse LS900 but cost Rm 1.5k compared to Rm400-500 for the Xpanse. For me that was beyond budget. And the Xpanse seems to do what i need, but hard to say unless i try in person.

Yes there were cheaper chairs in the Rm200-300 range but you really have to do your research whether it's lacking in anything. For me, i wanted to be sure the chair can handle my weight especially for the chair legs (previous one was plastic, that broke).

Maybe had i looked longer i could have found a similar chair but cost less, or something better for price, but honestly i didn't have the time to do too deep research. I found this did a quick check, looked ok and was within my budget sweat.gif

I'll post my review later sweat.gif


Anyway interested to know whether you think it was a mistake to buy that, and if there was something better for the price. do share


QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Jul 25 2025, 02:24 PM)
Bought something like this but with additional lower back support & mesh foot rest.

Rm550 including sea shipment to Sarawak (3 weeks)

Used for 2 months already. No regrets. Though there's some minor imperfection here & there but does not jeopardize the comfort & not visible if you're not that terribly OCD.

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your chair looks very similar to the one i ordered. mine was slightly cheaper after voucher but not by much.


fyi this was my previous gaming chair "TMAX RT-680 Gaming Chair with 3D Armrest Vintage Leather Ergonomic Design Adjustable Backrest". Price i bought at the time roughly Rm300-400 with coupons during sale.

i STRONGLY do not recommend this chair. Because

1. warranty basically is no warranty. If your chair leg (plastic) crack because cannot endure your weight, you are so out of luck. Store wont cover it under warranty. Basically any part that is most likely to break wont be covered under warranty.

2. doesn't support heavy weight. I don't know about the limit, but for me it couldnt handle my weight.

3. the chair seat peals off in less than a year or 2. Looks fine initially but it doesn't last long. Don't waste your money with this.

4. the wheel coasters are low quality. I had to buy replacement coasters because these were unreliable.


This is why this time around i opted for a mesh chair because i wanted something that is cooling and longer lasting. So i am willing to try that over something like my old chair.



Other chairs i considered vs the xpanse was this MERRYFAIR ANGGUN. But thats going for Rm 700. It has less features, not as nice looking and cost more. Maybe during a sale it would be ok, but not at this price when can get Xpanse LS900 for less and has metal legs (whereas merryfair looks like plastic).


saw xpanse also had more premium ergonomic which is the Xpanse Cloud Wing X360 platinum max. it's supposedly got a 3d wing for lumber support (assuming trying to match the hbada e3 but cheaper). But it was beyond my budget. Also i see that feature wise the LS900 was good enough for me if maybe not perfect. I'll know for sure when i test it in person. But oddly enough the weight supported for the LS900 is better than the more expensive X360 platinum max by an extra 100 kg rolleyes.gif (200kg vs 300kg max weight)


it would be great if we can see how they make these chairs for the brand you are buying. then can be more confident in the purchase. e.g.





all i know is this xpanse, the chair is produced over in their thailand factory but is ship from malaysia since they got local stored stock (is a china company). seems the company has been around a while so seems they have some experience with these gaming/ergonomic chairs.


*update

found more info about this
https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysians/comment..._it_even_worth/

QUOTE

This looks like either a xpanse or a yisong ergo chair. Me and my friend just bought one each last month but it was the ls900. So far so good def more comfortable than those gaming chairs and breathable compared to leather seats. Bought it from their showroom, tested their entire range. Had a slight problem with the arm rest but the staff was quick to respond and offer to replace. For the price nothing to complain thus far.
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Ya the so called showroom is at C180 Cheras, its actually just a store where they run their operations. Need to check with the boss on the availability as sometimes they are not in office. I'll pm you the phone number.





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QUOTE(180sx @ Sep 16 2025, 07:40 PM)
Good choice going mesh. My 1st gaming chair was a tomaz faux leather chair. Within 1 year usage, leather already tearing sad.gif
Then change to mesh, use 3 years already still going strong. No regret with mesh gaming chair. Even until today, sitting on it still feels damn good, and most times push to dining hall sit and eat smile.gif

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familiar with tomaz but what i got from them was their gaming table.

It looks good, but now that i've used it for a long while, i realize, the table was too narrow in depth. meaning, you had issues placing monitor far back because it would just fall off cause not enough space. had they designed it to be longer in dept, it would have been fine (even if it was not height adjustable).

but i digress.

well at least i feel better. hope you are right smile.gif


But yeah your pic perfectly explains my situation with my tmax gaming chair. it had the same issue. falling apart in a year. for me it got worse, the plastic legs broke, couldn't stand my weight. 85kg (yes i know i need to exercise more. i am trying sweat.gif ). But yeah, although i like these type of bucket or hard leather type chairs, in practice it doesn't work well (they fall apart so fast). No idea about the Rm2k+ chairs of similar design, but i'm not gonna spend that much on a chair laugh.gif that is one line i try not to cross.


but buying these tmax or tomax chair or similar design (roughly around rm 200-500) not worth it. After 1-2 years, you will end up just buying another. Keep in mind, these damage is not covered under warranty. For my tmax even the legs not even covered, and that had a 3 year warranty, but in 1 year the leg broke shakehead.gif


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Even until today, sitting on it still feels damn good, and most times push to dining hall sit and eat


honestly this is my worry. yes i buy a nice ergonomic chair mostly for comfort and importantly to protect my back. But sitting down too long is not healthy. So too comfortable a chair may encourage sitting too often. I try to alternate between standing at desk or sitting down.

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 17 2025, 10:39 AM)
save some money and try buying used
carousell/fb marketplace

haworth zody around rm500
mesh back, forward tilt, 4d arm rest
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yeah that does look like an awesome chair wub.gif
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post Sep 18 2025, 10:52 PM

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ok just got the new chair

Xpanse LS900 6D armrest pro



head rest - good. Can move up, or down. However cannot make the head rest go back or forward afaik. but despite that it's still fine for me

lumbar cant go up or down. ontop of that, the chair can be moved forward or backward. i think this also adjust how close your back touches against the lumbar. I set mine to be closest to lumbar which is what worked best for me.

arm rest, can go up or down. can tilt it for if ur say playing nintendo switch or holding a book or something which is when you would angle ur hand diagonally upwards and still rest your arms comfortably. the arm rest can go front and back. BUT, it doesn't go back enough for my taste. Seems to be more forward, which is fine for typing on keyboard and mouse. But sometimes i just want to sit back with my arms back and rest. But i can't do that perfectly with this arm rest since it doesnt go back far enough. just barely. the arms are stiff to prevent accidentally moving them. But you can indeed make mistakes by applying too much force and accidentally moving them unintended. It does happen. But compared to my old chair its much stiffer. I dont think its a big issue, just noting it can move if you are not too careful. anyway because the arm rest doesnt go back enough, what i did was push the arm rest diagonally inward, and try make it go back further that way.

the arm rest grips onto your arm and doesn't slide off. some may or may not like that. For myself i'm fine with it. it's cushiony enough for me, and it has a grip so my army doesn't accidentally slide off.

leg rest - yes it's very comfortable. i assumed it would be terrible but it wasn't. it doesn't chaff on my legs, and it's comfortable despite being plastic. feels sturdy enough to rest your leg. obviously don't stand on it to put weight, i doubt it can handle that. For best comfort, using the leg rest while gaming is actually much better than without it. I was surprised i liked using it haha....

chair height adjustable - yes can go up and down. will it wear in time? i dont know. but for brand new chair it adjusts just fine. i adjusted it so my arms are level with my desk/keyboard/mouse. for fine tuning i also adjusted the arm rest to also match my arms to the keyboard mouse level comfortably.

chair turning - yes it turns. but it doesn't swing wildly. you'd have to use your feet to press on the ground to turn the chair while you are sitting in it.

seating and back - it's mesh. the mesh looks good. i don't know how long it will last, but it seems strong enough and quite comfortable to sit and also lean backwards on. It also aesthetically looks nice. I liked it more than i thought i would.

locking mechanism - Yes it can lock and unlock. Meaning, when you lie on the chair it will go back without resistance, UNTIL you opt to LOCK the chair in position where it wont continue to go backward. So find a good leaning position then lock that into place. Very easy to access the handle for lock and unlock.

chair move forward and backward - this also uses a mechanism on the chair with some sort of lever. I tested it works. I made mine shortest so that my back touches the lumbar more.

build quality -
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Lets start with what parts of the chair was LOW quality. Ok the chair axis where you stick the metal legs on, it has a cover right. That cover is CHEAP plastic which chrome metallic look (BUT ITS ACTUALLY some very cheap lousy plastic. It's just to trick others that it's metal when it's not. It's simply cheap aesthetic. Someone not familiar with your chair would not suspect it's plastic unless they touch it. It's only purpose is for aesthetic nothing else really.

The 2nd cheap part was the back cover on the back of the chair. There is one part that looks metallic right? wrong. It's cheap plastic also. You snap it on to cover where you tighten the screws.

I think if you really wanted to, you could 3d print a metal copy of those parts if it bothers you. For myself, i'm not bothered. It's only aesthetic and honestly at a glance, nobody will realize it's shoddy. Functionally, it doesn't even affect the comfort of sitting on the chair neither.

The wheels are cheap but usable. they slide fine. Will it after getting caked with dirt in feature? maybe not. i made the mistake with my previous chair wheel trying to remove caked dirt on the wheel but ended up making it worse in process.

Other than that, rest of the chair is fine. It might not be the lambo of the gaming chair world, but for the price, the comfort and styling you get is well worth it.

If you aren't too fussed about the arm rest, or moving the chair forward or back for the seat, then you can go for the cheaper steel max b or max g which is about the same feature wise cept some but cost less.



Overall i'm happy with the chair wub.gif



*update

no issue with the chair i bought, but i noticed someone post about xpanse.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShopeePH/comments/...chair_purchase/


are they saying the brand no good? or did someone try sell their chair but it was something else? can anyone translate what they are complaining about?

The only issue i found so far was 2 parts of the chair as mentioned in my review was not metallic, but cheap (very cheap, worse than a toy) plastic that was colored to look metalic. But these 2 parts don't serve any functional part and merely aesthetic. Xpanse did offer me a partial refund but i didn't accept since i wasn't really trying to be a difficult customer. i only offered my feedback that this was a slight dissapointed. But functionally it does not affect the comfort or function of the chair, and onlookers would not even know it was cheap plastic unless they touched it lel. And if it was an issue i am sure you can 3d print it yourself to replace. But i don't have a 3d print file.... does anyone have that?

if the redditors complaint was there was a cheaper alternative that was just as good or better, maybe, but i dont know what that may be sweat.gif but for me it was in budget. paid between rm400-500 for it. yeah i don't feel i needed to pay rm 1k+ since this chair so far is more than fine.


Also noticed epsilon_chinwk86 took 3 weeks for his chair to arrive. Mine took only 3 days smile.gif Xpanse brand, official shopee store, malaysia stock from johor (produced in thailand factory their product page says). Is a China company, but they said their history is for quite a few years already and they have some sort of Europe certification or something for making these type of chairs, so they are saying they are a reputable brand some what.

*update

for the arm rest, if you put weight on the back end of the arm rest, it will very likely tilt downward. now i am wondering whether the 3d or 4d arm rest would have been better since i dont really need the angled tilt position for arm rest. just the vertical adjustment is fine. The vertical adjustment by the way has a lock mechanism. But the angled tilt has no lock afaik.

So problem is, even when i move the arm as far back as it can, i can't fully use it, because when i put weight to rest my arms while leaning back into the chair, but because the force is on the back end, it will cause the arm rest to tilt at an angle (for the handheld mode position).

After some adjust, i sort of got the arm rest to work by positioning the arm rest. but i still need to be mindful to focus my weight in fore arms, slightly behind your wrist. if not, it will move the tilt angle.

so yes it works, but wish they had made the arm rest to be able to lock the tilt, and also to move the arm rest further back. it's not back enough for my taste. but that said, it's still usable. just not perfect.




so my ranking for this chair 1 lowest, 10 highest.


comfort: 9

aesthetic: 8.5 (points deducted for the 2 very cheap plastic parts i mentioned. i did mention, an onlooker would not even realize those are very cheap plastics unless they touch them)

function: 9 (It does a lot of stuff. No 3d wings, but the lumbar supports my back well after i adjust the seat backward. keep in mind this model can adjust the seat, but some of the other variants might not. adjusting the seat for me made a difference so i can position closer to the lumbar)

durability: *not rated (i just bought so i can't say. But from the looks of it, seems pretty durable. the legs although are not 1 single piece, it is metalic. I dont recommend plastic legs because my experience with those, they break easily. the mesh seems quite solid, but i don't know how long it will last, so that is why i didn't rate)

price: 9 ( yes there are cheaper gaming chairs like rm 200-400. But i feel this chair is competing more against the rm1000+ chairs, but cost half the price. So i think it's worth it to me. On sale the other day it was discounted almost RM100 making it an even better deal)

warranty: *not rated (didn't test warranty so cannot say. i think they said normal wear and tear not covered. buy i don't recall seeing any gotchas claiming they wont cover stuff like legs breaking, so none of that fine print nonsense like my previous seller. but maybe i could be wrong and just did not notice the fine print)

seller: 9 (told me when item was shipped, and when delivery guy about to send. offered to refund me after my feedback despite me not even requesting for it. felt very sincere. whoever is managing their shopee store is doing a good job for customer service)

shipping: 9 (took 3 days to ship to me)


overall score 9. despite some of it's shortcomings i recommend it.



my expectation for this chair, that it will last at least 10 years without replacement. but even if it only got to 3 year, i only spend rm500, so wouldn't be too big a loss. this is why i didn't want to pay rm1k+ chair, because then the loss would be bigger if the chair didn't even last that long. anyway good can get a good chair for cheaper than that. rm500 for a chair isn't particularly cheap, but if you don't want to ruin your back while sitting, it's extremely worth it for me.



*update

ok im retarded. I just noticed the arm rest, you can spin it about 180 degrees. So now, i can TOTALLY lean my ELBOWS INTO the arm rest WITHOUT THE issues mentioned.

I was too gentle with the arm rest and didn't realize it could do that.

so after doing that, the angled tilt doesn't seem possible, as it seems to lock that out (WHICH IS WHAT i wanted). It can tilt but only from the front, but you don't put pressure in that direction, so not sure what you would use that for, but is a non issue.

Basically if you want to use angled tilt, rotate the arm rest 180 degrees. if not, then turn it back again.

Also after moving it 180 degrees, the arm rest does go further back which is where i wanted it to rest my elbows and whole fore arm while leaning back into the chair.





*update

sharp pain in legs when using the leg rest for long duration. If you got a bad heart for pumping blood in your legs, then don't abuse using the leg rest all the time. now and then is fine. But even without the leg rest the chair is still quite comfortable. But more so when using the leg rest, can even do so when gaming which i tried for apex legend and also won a game, thus proving my point that you can game and still perform even while using the leg rest

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also i felt that it helped that now my forearms are level with my keyboard and mouse, making it easier for me to perform ingame for apex legends devil.gif


*update

so do i need the angle tilt for arm rest? for e.g. holding gaming hand held like nintendo switch. Firstly i don't even have a nintendo switch. I don't really play games on smartphone, but if i did then ya i can imagine it being useful for that.

As for books, these i read digital so rarely do i use physical books. But i can appreciate the use of physical books for reading (i am an avid reader, so i totally understand the sentiment).

for smartphone, i typically use a metallic magnetic stand for it which i put on my desk or any table surface. this is why i usually don't need the angle tilt for using my smartphone since i already use this for that purpose. so i'm not tired holding the phone, since the magnetic stand does that for me.

i'm using the ugreen magnetic smartphone stand by the way. for price and function it was totally worth it.


*update

comparing this Xpanse LS900 6D Armrest Pro


to Hbada E3 (pic)
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notice the arm rests? look better than the xpanse. It also has 3d wing for lumbar support..


armrest - sure the looks better, but i am already fine with the xpanse arm rest despite not being as long as the Hbada E3.

3d wing lumbar - if you want to feel like you have your mother or lovers embrace wrapping around you, sure. But just using the xpanse lumbar support without that, it's perfectly fine as is. So to me just feels like unecessary excess. Nice to have sure i suppose.

head rest - not only is hbada height adjustable, seems like you can also adjust it to move horizontally as well. The xpanse CANNOT be adjusted horizontally, so this it clearly loses to the Hbada E3. That said even without it i am still fine. I only use the head rest when i am leaning back into the chair when using leg rest or even without when leaning back into the chair. But i can see that for fine tuning if you want to use head rest while leaning more upright and still have the head rest closer, would you want to make that horizontal adjustment.


Conclusion: would you be willing to spend RM1000-2000 extra just for those 3 things the hbada E3 has over the Xpanse LS900 6D Armrest Pro. For myself, no. The only thing i would miss is probably the headrest horizontal adjustment, the other 2 not that crucial for me. but no way in hell would i pay that much just for that only. Not good value to go from an Xpanse to the Hbada. If money is no object to you, then Hbada E3 might be worth looking at since it's supposedly a more premium product sweat.gif


*update

forgot to mention the xpanse chsair came with a cervical spine massager for your neck. very nice

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post Sep 19 2025, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 17 2025, 10:39 AM)
save some money and try buying used
carousell/fb marketplace

haworth zody around rm500
mesh back, forward tilt, 4d arm rest
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i noticed in the youtube i linked, the chair you mentioned doesn't have a head rest. mine does and cost rm 500. the head rest for my chair made a difference for me. so the chair you recommend without it seems less appealing to me for that reason sweat.gif
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post Sep 19 2025, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 19 2025, 09:26 AM)
agreed, most 'femes' task chairs do not come with one. Need to add 3rd party 'and also expensive' atlas brand headrest
to them task chair is not for lounging, aka no head/foot rest
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i use chair for multi purposes.

sit straight

rest back on chair with my head rested on a headest, with a lumbar comfortably supporting me

lets resting on let rest when i want to rest laugh.gif


but like u said maybe their chair is not for that purpose, fine. but that to me just seem like less value for money haha. i'm only using the chair for home office gaming r&r smile.gif

hm.... this neck massager not bad. can also recharge with usb. i don't think i will use it all the time, just only when i am really aching.

it's a free gift that came with the chair. we all like free gifts don't we devil.gif


oo by the way what chair r you using for yourself? just wondering hmm.gif

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post Sep 19 2025, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 19 2025, 06:46 PM)
zody 'classic' with headrest
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probly best review. really putting the chair through it's paces nod.gif he said at least 3 mil of these sold world wide

has a forward tilt feature. i don't think mine does (at least not to the exent the Zody does) hmm.gif i'll have to play around with it some more later haha.

*update

nope. mine has a fix max tilt for forward. looks like the zody can tilt even more forward, for it you really are sitting straight up. but my chair, at it's limit, you still need to rest your back into the chair. for me this is still fine, and still feels like my back is straight, and comfortable even.

if i use the leg rest, my back will be more pressed firmly into the back seat more so (in a good way)

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post Sep 21 2025, 05:21 AM

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i never got this many kills before. only happen after i switch to this chair

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i can comfortably focus while playing apex legend haha. i also credit the new 27'' 240hz qd oled monitor i also upgraded to.

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