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post Dec 30 2020, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Dec 30 2020, 10:33 AM)
I have and always recommend steelcase chairs

Steelcase Leap - 2.5k~ ish.
Steelcase Think - 2k~ish

Price may change

I have sat extensively on both chair for long hours due to WFH. They are very comfortable and provide good support.
Material quality is awesome. I have the Leap for 2.5 years and it is still like new.
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I just got myself the steelcase series 2 for rm1800(proudly made in puchong) after a 2 months waiting period (initially im going to order the Leap as it's supremely comfortable, but that doesn't have a mesh back and I don't like how the Think looks like), replacing my 6 months old Marcus (I didn't get any discomfort sitting on the Marcus for > 10 hours though)
Marcus's mesh back has more give but Series2 has got a lot more adjustments to make sure my lumbar area is always supported
Marcus' seat cushion feels softer and plushier compared to Steelcase's

Side note: anyone looking for a 6months old fabric Marcus can PM me smile.gif
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Dec 30 2020, 11:31 AM)
Where did you all get your Steelcase? Can I have the shop name or GPS please?
I would like to go and try. Am hunting for a good chair after the really horrible experience I have with a certain shop.
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zenpro has a showroom in kelana jaya, their factory's in sg buloh
I bought the series 2 without trying it on though, but I read the review that it's quite similar to the Think (of which I've tested and liked), I don't turn on aircond at home a lot so I decided to forgo the Leap
good thing about steelcase is if you get the made in Malaysia one, you can customize the color combination without adding too much onto the lead time

if you really wanted to indulge, pay XTRA mid valley a visit and try on their Okamura Contessa 2, the seat cushion is supremely comfortable

I splurge on a better chair hoping that it could save me some trips to the Chiro, if it saves me a few trips to the Chiro the chair essentially paid for itself already smile.gif


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post Dec 30 2020, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Dec 30 2020, 11:31 AM)
Where did you all get your Steelcase? Can I have the shop name or GPS please?
I would like to go and try. Am hunting for a good chair after the really horrible experience I have with a certain shop.
Don't they get hot since they are not really mesh? I find fully mesh one really comfortable I think.

Am looking these chairs also from Evis.com.my
Any reviews or comments? But crazy expensive.

https://www.evis.com.my/products/Seating-c40518006
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evis has a showroom in cheras, pay them a visit and test on their things
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post Dec 30 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Dec 30 2020, 11:52 AM)
The Okamura looks nice but no headrest. sad.gif And it doesn't seem to be so adjustable from what I can see from the website.
WOW! They can even customise steelcase? I should just go to their S.Buloh factory maybe. So you just called them and ordered online or something?
yeap, that's what I'm gonna do after I settle my case first.  laugh.gif
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Contessa II has headrest as an option
https://www.xtrafurniture.com/shop/product/...sa-black-frame/

not sure if you can go straight to zenpro's factory, they're made by steelcase Malaysia and not by zenpro.
zenpro themselves sells other types of office furniture, steelcase is part of their portfolio, go to their kelana jaya showroom and test the chair.

also if you go to Evis, get their footrest, it's quite worth it if you can get it at the promo price


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post Jan 6 2021, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jan 4 2021, 04:02 PM)
I'm surprised not a lot of people recommend okamura. Their chairs are herman miller standard but a bit cheaper coz it's less well known.
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the contessa II's multi density foam seats are awesome smile.gif
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post Feb 8 2021, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Feb 5 2021, 11:30 PM)
No, you are totally right, I have locked into this but still hesitant to pull the trigger as the colour that I want need to pre-order, and may take 2-3 months before its available.

The reviews on reddits from US customers are mostly complaining on the build quality + customer service, which to be honest, could be the issue as SecretLab ships from SG? I'm not very sure on this.

I've also watched a shit ton of youtube reviews from channels with less than 300 subscribers, and they don't even have affiliate links, and surprisingly most of their 3-months 6-months reviews are mostly positives, except for the negatives mentioned in reddit (slow CS response, bad quality control etc.) - Not sure how legit these small youtube channels are, but surely SecretLab won't go the way to sponsor them?

I've narrowed down my list from Autonomous, IKEA, Steelcase, and secretlab.

Many bad reviews on autonomous, and I tried IKEA Marcus and Milberger myself, wanna move on to something better (or pricier  tongue.gif )

Have not contacted Steelcase malaysia supplier yet, so more research to be done on their price.

SecretLab is the only one in my mind with the most information (and contradicting ones too!)
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okamura contessa II smile.gif
steelcase ranges from 1.6-2.5k (unless you opt for their highest end one, Gesture, that's around 5k IIRC) which i think it's competitively priced considering how well they are made
but it has a 6-8 weeks lead time so it's not popular
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post Feb 9 2021, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Feb 5 2021, 11:30 PM)
No, you are totally right, I have locked into this but still hesitant to pull the trigger as the colour that I want need to pre-order, and may take 2-3 months before its available.

The reviews on reddits from US customers are mostly complaining on the build quality + customer service, which to be honest, could be the issue as SecretLab ships from SG? I'm not very sure on this.

I've also watched a shit ton of youtube reviews from channels with less than 300 subscribers, and they don't even have affiliate links, and surprisingly most of their 3-months 6-months reviews are mostly positives, except for the negatives mentioned in reddit (slow CS response, bad quality control etc.) - Not sure how legit these small youtube channels are, but surely SecretLab won't go the way to sponsor them?

I've narrowed down my list from Autonomous, IKEA, Steelcase, and secretlab.

Many bad reviews on autonomous, and I tried IKEA Marcus and Milberger myself, wanna move on to something better (or pricier  tongue.gif )

Have not contacted Steelcase malaysia supplier yet, so more research to be done on their price.

SecretLab is the only one in my mind with the most information (and contradicting ones too!)
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i customized a steelcase series II late last year (got them before new year) for ~1.8k, with everything, i.e. 4D adjustable arm rest, adjustable seat depth, live mesh back, head rest and hard floor castor (this thing rolls on smooooooth)
doesnt looks as exciting as the so called gaming chairs but it's very comfortable, the way the armrest is built onto chair allows you to sit cross legged if that's your kind of thing
best of all it's made in puchong, so buy malaysian first tongue.gif

the only down side so far with the series II is that the backrest doesnt lock reclined, it locks only on the straight position, but the quick set (uses a ratchet instead of the old school twist) weight activated reclination is #velinai
and the seat's fabric is abit on the rough side, so if you're wearing shorts, it wont feel as luxurious as softer cloth
another cons is the headrest isnt adjustable, but it's not intrusive so it wont eat into your 'headspace' if you're sitting straight

compared to the likes of :

contessa II
contessa II has a very very comfortable seat cushion, the multi density cushion really does alleviate the pressure off your ass
lumbar support works better on slimmer frames (because it narrows the back seat width instead of using some sort of contraption for support), ive not tried the one with the extra lumbar support
but it feels very supportive as it promotes the back to be in the natural curve and fits be quite well (171cm/66kg frame)
there's option to spec mesh seat cushion at no cost, which is nice if that's what you want
very stylish
this is quite costly though at 6k+


steelcase think
series II feels quite similar to think, but think's lumbar support mechanism is looser so the thing can goes off position after sometime and you'll need to put it up again
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ikea marcus
i bought the marcus after first MCO1.0 out of desperation, sold to another forumer early this year
the chair is meant for taller frame so if you're a tiny asian the build will overwhelm you and your feet will be left dangling because it can only go down so much
lumbar support is quite low, so it's not really useful, i put a lumbar support pillow bought from muji over it (https://www.muji.com/sg/products/cmdty/detail/4550002564025)
the arm rest is low so may not be that useful and the structure limits your movement on the chair so you cant sit kangkang

the only thing adjustable is the height and the weight activated reclination is a bonus
but overall it's solidly built and the fabric feels nice on skin, and i've not had any backache sitting on it for > 10 hours in a day, which is cool


AM office ergohuman
on first glance it looks comfortable, but sitting on it for 10mins the lower part of the lumbar support frame starts digging into my back, also the front seat frame also puts pressure on the lower thigh part, so that's a big no no.
didnt bother to test further


herman miller sayl
looks damn good with the striking colours and unique backrest design with decent lumbar support, seat depth and arm rest adjustments
the backrest design allows movement in the shoulder while maintaining support which is great if you tend to sit on it for a looooong time
it's very decent consider that this is considered an entry level HM
cons: no head rest, with all the bells and whistles i think it's close to 5k


herman miller aeron v2
to me it feels slightly more comfortable than contessa II due to the updated lumbar design which feels just right, very solidly built with 12 years warranty, lots of adjustments here and there
get the right size and i think i wont look back
not to mention the classic aeron look makes it the perfect background in any setup
cons: miskin laugh.gif V2 is 7.2k, V1 4.8k, find it hard to justify the V2, maybe in the near future i'll fork out for the new old stock V1 and give my wife the series II


herman miller cosm highback
the way this chair is built cradles you like you're in a hammock, so it's very relaxing to sit on, too bad it doesnt come with an adjustable lumbar and the 'leaf' armrest is more looks than functional
cons: miskin also laugh.gif the high back leaf armrest version is 9.9k




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post Feb 9 2021, 03:18 PM

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i tried 4 HM actually

Aeron v1, v2, Sayl (im really tempted to get this, but Sayl doenst have that option, and it's a 12 weeks wait), and the Cosm


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post Mar 19 2021, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Mar 19 2021, 09:03 PM)
May I know where to get HM chair at malaysia? I am looking for the Embody. But nearest is SG sad.gif
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trax bangsar

iirc embody's 9.9k
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post Mar 21 2021, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Areglator @ Mar 21 2021, 05:07 AM)
They sure do!  I sat on the Embody, and its great - except that I'm not into the chair's arm adjustment.  They have a nice showroom in Bangsar.  Mickey (sales) is very nice and knows the chairs well.  All the chairs look so good, that you'll really want to buy one.  When I asked about new old stock, he said they didn't have any.  I wanted to buy one of the display units, but he said they weren't for sale.  In the end I went with a Steelcase Leap v2 and no regrets :-)
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IMO the Sayl looks and feels great (too bad cant spec it with a headrest) and is one of the cheaper HM
too bad about the waiting time

ended up getting a Steelcase as well, support buatan malaysia laugh.gif
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post Mar 21 2021, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Areglator @ Mar 21 2021, 04:37 PM)
Same here...I thought the Sayl felt more expensive than the Mirra 2.  I was impressed with the Celle as well, but 12++ weeks waiting time was not for me.  Steelcase chairs certainly don't have quite the bling factor as HM, but they're solid and yes...supporting a deserving product that is Malaysian-made is not a bad thing at all :-)
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but steelcase allows customization on the colours, material, headrest, armrest and castor wheels without any extra lead time, which is a huge plus

i spec-ed mine with garfield coloured mesh tongue.gif
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post Apr 1 2021, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Mar 23 2021, 04:07 PM)
belanja gambar la..
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posted on fesbuk, you missed the ship tongue.gif
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post Apr 1 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Mar 26 2021, 04:48 PM)
ikea markus for long sitting hours is good?
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it's actually decent, the foam they used are quite comfortable, seat depth is good, just that the lumbar support is too low and the headrest restricts a little bit
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post Apr 6 2021, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(verynice309 @ Apr 5 2021, 09:45 PM)
Hi, when did they say you'll get it? I bought one (buy 2 promo) on the 18th of March and they said lead time was 4-6 weeks coz of factory disruptions, just wondering if thats the case for the non promo units as well
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i bought mine last year, standard 4-6 weeks, but i got mine within 3 weeks
i think yours could be longer, pretty sure they'll blame the suez canal incident laugh.gif
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post May 8 2021, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 8 2021, 03:47 PM)
Hi, anyone tried/own OKAMURA Baron/CP? How is it?
Looking to purchase one but no showroom test laugh.gif

https://www.okamura.com/en_ap/products/cate...ing/task/baron/
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https://www.xtrafurniture.com/brand/okamura/
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post May 17 2021, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 16 2021, 10:25 AM)
Finally it arrived, graphite on graphite embody
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Opted for the balance fabric, comfy in non AC condition but can imagine how hard will it be to clean it later laugh.gif
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coat them with scotchgard's fabric protector

how much yen did you paid for it?
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post Jun 7 2021, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Jun 7 2021, 12:50 PM)
Hey guys, hopefully this is the right place to ask...

I'm looking for a chair, let's just say 2k budget to give myself more options. My preferences:
- mesh, tall back
- with back rest
- with head rest
- with arm rest
- I don't need lightning speed wheels cuz I don't move around much

About me/usage:
Height around 165cm
Not overweight
Heavy daily usage, especially with WFH these days, more than 10 hours daily. I'm looking for something that doesn't get stuffy with long hours, without AC.

A simple Google fetched me many results, but a little too much it's hard for me to choose...
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https://www.steelcase.com/products/office-c...lcase-series-2/
Series 2 fits into your budget pretty well

you have the options for:
headrest, fabric color and material (mesh/non mesh), lumbar support, adjustable arm rest (can be multi-dimension), and silent castor

I did not get the leap V2 (which feels great, and at half the price of okamura/aeron remastered) because it doesn't come in mesh option
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post Jun 30 2021, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Klesk @ Jun 29 2021, 02:43 PM)
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Is this price ok for Steelcase leap
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just curious, where did you get that quote from?

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post Jun 30 2021, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jun 30 2021, 06:31 AM)
I am shopping for office chair, and found that there is a local seller selling some sihoo model.

https://shopee.com.my/Ergonomic-Office-Chai...0647.6841842650
Back to the topic.

Anyone has any idea the main difference between steelcase series 2 vs think?

My office was using think, i love the seat depth adjustment and the 4D armrest.

But the Think offering here doesnt come with headrest. Wfh i would prefer a headrest option. (Taobao official shop has headrest selling separately at about rm600 though) >.<

On a sidenote, merryfair anggun with its 4d armrest( albeit hard nylon) and seat depth adjustment is a good deal at 600 to 700 price range!

Oh decision decision
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i tested both series 2 and think (and other steelcase chairs)

but that was a year ago so i may get things mixed up, think has a 'softer' mesh, but the lumbar support is 'less tight' so depending on how you sit, you'll need to readjust the lumbar support bar from time to time
it's the same for series 2 as well
you'll get both 4D armrest, and seat pan depth adjustments

i bought the series 2 with headrest for a price slightly lower than Think
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post Jul 2 2021, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Klesk @ Jul 1 2021, 09:36 PM)
goddamn! thats the actualy price!
my company has staff price for Steelcase and Haworth products
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shit, retail was 3.3k
even with the BOGO deal it's still 2.5k, but with headrest though


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