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post Feb 5 2021, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Feb 1 2021, 12:49 AM)
Anyone here actually tried Secret Lab Titan?

I am fully aware of all the gimmicks sold by gaming chair, but I need something that is solid plus aesthetically pleasing to some degree

Would love to hear thoughts of fellow Malaysians, reddit thread seems to have mixed reviews and YouTube is infested with sponsored reviews

p.s. previously used IKEA Markus (RM 5xx) and currently using IKEA Milberger (RM 2xx), both are decent at best, nothing to scream for its price

+not gonna fork out huge amount for Herman Miller Aeron, neither do I like 2nd hand chairs
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I have one, in a Softweave variant.

Mine is almost a year old, got it at the start of MCO in 2020 due to the work from home status, my previous chair was giving me a bad backache.

I would say that it helped to ease the lower back with lumbar support, the recline is pretty sturdy as well, I always change my chair positioning a few times daily. Straight back for work, recline for play (at night) and entertainment.

So far no wobble, squeaks at all.

My only complain is the material gets really warm if you are not seating in an AC room - you tend to build sweat on your thighs and with fabric, it will absorb it. You’ll need a fabric cleaner to ensure it is ‘fresh smelling’ from time to time.

There will always be haters, but so far still enjoying mine.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Feb 5 2021, 04:05 PM)
You can read about my whole hoo haa with AMOffice and Shopee here regarding the POFIT chair.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5076740&hl=
I have seen this promo before like a year or so, didn't click in the PDF but make sure that it's still available?
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Whoaaa damnnn, i think you just help me narrowing down my options.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Feb 5 2021, 04:05 PM)
You can read about my whole hoo haa with AMOffice and Shopee here regarding the POFIT chair.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5076740&hl=
I have seen this promo before like a year or so, didn't click in the PDF but make sure that it's still available?
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Yes, this was given to me today by a zenpro staff.

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QUOTE(Abd Salam @ Feb 5 2021, 04:14 PM)
Whoaaa damnnn, i think you just help me narrowing down my options.
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Forgot to say that im using Ergo Pro now from Evis. https://www.evis.com.my/
While I don't have anymore backaches and I do enjoy the availability of the leg rest. I do however feel it's a bit overpriced. I would say RM1,600-RM1800 would be fairer than the price RM2500+ i paid for.

Looking back, with that price I could have gotten a nice Steelcase, a proper brand than a Malaysian Rebrand kinda thing.

But oh well, too late now. So far so good so yeah.


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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Feb 5 2021, 04:33 PM)
Forgot to say that im using Ergo Pro now from Evis. https://www.evis.com.my/
While I don't have anymore backaches and I do enjoy the availability of the leg rest. I do however feel it's a bit overpriced. I would say RM1,600-RM1800 would be fairer than the price RM2500+ i paid for.

Looking back, with that price I could have gotten a nice Steelcase, a proper brand than a Malaysian Rebrand kinda thing.

But oh well, too late now. So far so good so yeah.
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Liking the Evis too, not liking the price tho. Hahaha.

My broken (2nd time, 1st time their guys actually come to my hometown to replace) Am Office xg45 has yet to be replace( broken nylon frame on the back support). When PKP kicked i was kinda outstation so their guy couldn't come to replace it.

So fyi, Just got out from whatsapp chat with Merryfair sales guy/girl, he/she gave me so very good deal on the Fulkrum (aluminum frame) (tho still pricey to some) and the Saga. Cant tell how much as it can set precedent. So Suggest to contact them directly. The chat all started from Shopee chat then directed to whatsapp.
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post Feb 5 2021, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 5 2021, 04:05 PM)
I have one, in a Softweave variant.

Mine is almost a year old, got it at the start of MCO in 2020 due to the work from home status, my previous chair was giving me a bad backache.

I would say that it helped to ease the lower back with lumbar support, the recline is pretty sturdy as well, I always change my chair positioning a few times daily. Straight back for work, recline for play (at night) and entertainment.

So far no wobble, squeaks at all.

My only complain is the material gets really warm if you are not seating in an AC room - you tend to build sweat on your thighs and with fabric, it will absorb it. You’ll need a fabric cleaner to ensure it is ‘fresh smelling’ from time to time.

There will always be haters, but so far still enjoying mine.
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Thank you so much for this!

I've spoken to a few other owners as well but so far all I hear is good reviews, I guess the negative reviews are mostly from the non-users themselves, will give it a serious consideration.

I'm on AC 24 hours so I guess that shouldn't be an issue for me haha!

Cheers!
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post Feb 5 2021, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Feb 5 2021, 07:06 PM)
Thank you so much for this!

I've spoken to a few other owners as well but so far all I hear is good reviews, I guess the negative reviews are mostly from the non-users themselves, will give it a serious consideration.

I'm on AC 24 hours so I guess that shouldn't be an issue for me haha!

Cheers!
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wow dude, it looks like you have made up your mind and you are just looking for affirmation ler.
For bigger brands i love checking on Amazon reviews, and click on the 3 stars rating one for more neutral and honest comments, because let's be real, the white people always give better comments/reviews about products.

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Feb 5 2021, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(Abd Salam @ Feb 5 2021, 04:49 PM)
Liking the Evis too, not liking the price tho. Hahaha.

My broken (2nd time, 1st time their guys actually come to my hometown to replace) Am Office xg45 has yet to be replace( broken nylon frame on the back support). When PKP kicked i was kinda outstation so their guy couldn't come to replace it.

So fyi, Just got out from whatsapp chat with Merryfair sales guy/girl, he/she gave me so very good deal on the Fulkrum (aluminum frame) (tho still pricey to some) and the Saga. Cant tell how much as it can set precedent. So Suggest to contact them directly. The chat all started from Shopee chat then directed to whatsapp.
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Yup, I also ended up moving my chat with the Merryfair CS from Shopee Chat to WhatsApp, during which they also gave me a good deal, and resulted in me buying my 2nd chair from them (the Wau 2).
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post Feb 5 2021, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Feb 5 2021, 10:04 PM)
wow dude, it looks like you have made up your mind and you are just looking for affirmation ler.
For bigger brands i love checking on Amazon reviews, and click on the 3 stars rating one for more neutral and honest comments, because let's be real, the white people always give better comments/reviews about products.
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No, you are totally right, I have locked into this but still hesitant to pull the trigger as the colour that I want need to pre-order, and may take 2-3 months before its available.

The reviews on reddits from US customers are mostly complaining on the build quality + customer service, which to be honest, could be the issue as SecretLab ships from SG? I'm not very sure on this.

I've also watched a shit ton of youtube reviews from channels with less than 300 subscribers, and they don't even have affiliate links, and surprisingly most of their 3-months 6-months reviews are mostly positives, except for the negatives mentioned in reddit (slow CS response, bad quality control etc.) - Not sure how legit these small youtube channels are, but surely SecretLab won't go the way to sponsor them?

I've narrowed down my list from Autonomous, IKEA, Steelcase, and secretlab.

Many bad reviews on autonomous, and I tried IKEA Marcus and Milberger myself, wanna move on to something better (or pricier tongue.gif )

Have not contacted Steelcase malaysia supplier yet, so more research to be done on their price.

SecretLab is the only one in my mind with the most information (and contradicting ones too!)

This post has been edited by Ziet Inv: Feb 5 2021, 11:31 PM
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post Feb 7 2021, 01:45 PM

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Anyone has tested the Alterseat CG-700 full netting chair? Any other fully meshed chair around this price point?

Will fully meshed chair feel more comfortable in hot weathers?


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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Feb 5 2021, 11:30 PM)
No, you are totally right, I have locked into this but still hesitant to pull the trigger as the colour that I want need to pre-order, and may take 2-3 months before its available.

The reviews on reddits from US customers are mostly complaining on the build quality + customer service, which to be honest, could be the issue as SecretLab ships from SG? I'm not very sure on this.

I've also watched a shit ton of youtube reviews from channels with less than 300 subscribers, and they don't even have affiliate links, and surprisingly most of their 3-months 6-months reviews are mostly positives, except for the negatives mentioned in reddit (slow CS response, bad quality control etc.) - Not sure how legit these small youtube channels are, but surely SecretLab won't go the way to sponsor them?

I've narrowed down my list from Autonomous, IKEA, Steelcase, and secretlab.

Many bad reviews on autonomous, and I tried IKEA Marcus and Milberger myself, wanna move on to something better (or pricier  tongue.gif )

Have not contacted Steelcase malaysia supplier yet, so more research to be done on their price.

SecretLab is the only one in my mind with the most information (and contradicting ones too!)
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A lot of chairs have contradicting reviews because everyone is built differently, one man's poison may be another man's meat. So the best is still go and try them out yourself. Try and sit there for at least half an hour or the way you would sit normally and see how comfortable it is.
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QUOTE(dynamite_nmt @ Feb 5 2021, 10:43 PM)
Yup, I also ended up moving my chat with the Merryfair CS from Shopee Chat to WhatsApp, during which they also gave me a good deal, and resulted in me buying my 2nd chair from them (the Wau 2).
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QUOTE(Abd Salam @ Feb 5 2021, 04:49 PM)
Liking the Evis too, not liking the price tho. Hahaha.

My broken (2nd time, 1st time their guys actually come to my hometown to replace) Am Office xg45 has yet to be replace( broken nylon frame on the back support). When PKP kicked i was kinda outstation so their guy couldn't come to replace it.

So fyi, Just got out from whatsapp chat with Merryfair sales guy/girl, he/she gave me so very good deal on the Fulkrum (aluminum frame) (tho still pricey to some) and the Saga. Cant tell how much as it can set precedent. So Suggest to contact them directly. The chat all started from Shopee chat then directed to whatsapp.
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That’s good to know. Next time I will chat with them if I need to buy another chair.

I ordered directly with the 20% discount. Still a good deal, imo. I don’t have high requirements. Just want something adjustable for comfort whenever my seating posture changes.
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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Feb 5 2021, 11:30 PM)
No, you are totally right, I have locked into this but still hesitant to pull the trigger as the colour that I want need to pre-order, and may take 2-3 months before its available.

The reviews on reddits from US customers are mostly complaining on the build quality + customer service, which to be honest, could be the issue as SecretLab ships from SG? I'm not very sure on this.

I've also watched a shit ton of youtube reviews from channels with less than 300 subscribers, and they don't even have affiliate links, and surprisingly most of their 3-months 6-months reviews are mostly positives, except for the negatives mentioned in reddit (slow CS response, bad quality control etc.) - Not sure how legit these small youtube channels are, but surely SecretLab won't go the way to sponsor them?

I've narrowed down my list from Autonomous, IKEA, Steelcase, and secretlab.

Many bad reviews on autonomous, and I tried IKEA Marcus and Milberger myself, wanna move on to something better (or pricier  tongue.gif )

Have not contacted Steelcase malaysia supplier yet, so more research to be done on their price.

SecretLab is the only one in my mind with the most information (and contradicting ones too!)
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okamura contessa II smile.gif
steelcase ranges from 1.6-2.5k (unless you opt for their highest end one, Gesture, that's around 5k IIRC) which i think it's competitively priced considering how well they are made
but it has a 6-8 weeks lead time so it's not popular
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Feb 5 2021, 04:33 PM)
Forgot to say that im using Ergo Pro now from Evis. https://www.evis.com.my/
While I don't have anymore backaches and I do enjoy the availability of the leg rest. I do however feel it's a bit overpriced. I would say RM1,600-RM1800 would be fairer than the price RM2500+ i paid for.

Looking back, with that price I could have gotten a nice Steelcase, a proper brand than a Malaysian Rebrand kinda thing.

But oh well, too late now. So far so good so yeah.
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QUOTE(Abd Salam @ Feb 5 2021, 04:49 PM)
Liking the Evis too, not liking the price tho. Hahaha.

My broken (2nd time, 1st time their guys actually come to my hometown to replace) Am Office xg45 has yet to be replace( broken nylon frame on the back support). When PKP kicked i was kinda outstation so their guy couldn't come to replace it.

So fyi, Just got out from whatsapp chat with Merryfair sales guy/girl, he/she gave me so very good deal on the Fulkrum (aluminum frame) (tho still pricey to some) and the Saga. Cant tell how much as it can set precedent. So Suggest to contact them directly. The chat all started from Shopee chat then directed to whatsapp.
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I noticed Evis is a rebrand from Sihoo a Chinese brand chair from China.

As I've been eyeing on the SIhoo. I notice shipping over from China is still cheaper thn buying from Evis but warranty is definitely an issue if there's any problem.


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Weird, last time had a convo with Am Office rep, said that Pofit got a new version launching this month. Now their Shopee page all sold out.
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QUOTE(Abd Salam @ Feb 8 2021, 10:11 PM)
Weird, last time had a convo with Am Office rep, said that Pofit got a new version launching this month. Now their Shopee page all sold out.
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That model has been years old. I think they were just clearing stocks.
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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Feb 5 2021, 11:30 PM)
No, you are totally right, I have locked into this but still hesitant to pull the trigger as the colour that I want need to pre-order, and may take 2-3 months before its available.

The reviews on reddits from US customers are mostly complaining on the build quality + customer service, which to be honest, could be the issue as SecretLab ships from SG? I'm not very sure on this.

I've also watched a shit ton of youtube reviews from channels with less than 300 subscribers, and they don't even have affiliate links, and surprisingly most of their 3-months 6-months reviews are mostly positives, except for the negatives mentioned in reddit (slow CS response, bad quality control etc.) - Not sure how legit these small youtube channels are, but surely SecretLab won't go the way to sponsor them?

I've narrowed down my list from Autonomous, IKEA, Steelcase, and secretlab.

Many bad reviews on autonomous, and I tried IKEA Marcus and Milberger myself, wanna move on to something better (or pricier  tongue.gif )

Have not contacted Steelcase malaysia supplier yet, so more research to be done on their price.

SecretLab is the only one in my mind with the most information (and contradicting ones too!)
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i customized a steelcase series II late last year (got them before new year) for ~1.8k, with everything, i.e. 4D adjustable arm rest, adjustable seat depth, live mesh back, head rest and hard floor castor (this thing rolls on smooooooth)
doesnt looks as exciting as the so called gaming chairs but it's very comfortable, the way the armrest is built onto chair allows you to sit cross legged if that's your kind of thing
best of all it's made in puchong, so buy malaysian first tongue.gif

the only down side so far with the series II is that the backrest doesnt lock reclined, it locks only on the straight position, but the quick set (uses a ratchet instead of the old school twist) weight activated reclination is #velinai
and the seat's fabric is abit on the rough side, so if you're wearing shorts, it wont feel as luxurious as softer cloth
another cons is the headrest isnt adjustable, but it's not intrusive so it wont eat into your 'headspace' if you're sitting straight

compared to the likes of :

contessa II
contessa II has a very very comfortable seat cushion, the multi density cushion really does alleviate the pressure off your ass
lumbar support works better on slimmer frames (because it narrows the back seat width instead of using some sort of contraption for support), ive not tried the one with the extra lumbar support
but it feels very supportive as it promotes the back to be in the natural curve and fits be quite well (171cm/66kg frame)
there's option to spec mesh seat cushion at no cost, which is nice if that's what you want
very stylish
this is quite costly though at 6k+


steelcase think
series II feels quite similar to think, but think's lumbar support mechanism is looser so the thing can goes off position after sometime and you'll need to put it up again
very ugly tongue.gif


ikea marcus
i bought the marcus after first MCO1.0 out of desperation, sold to another forumer early this year
the chair is meant for taller frame so if you're a tiny asian the build will overwhelm you and your feet will be left dangling because it can only go down so much
lumbar support is quite low, so it's not really useful, i put a lumbar support pillow bought from muji over it (https://www.muji.com/sg/products/cmdty/detail/4550002564025)
the arm rest is low so may not be that useful and the structure limits your movement on the chair so you cant sit kangkang

the only thing adjustable is the height and the weight activated reclination is a bonus
but overall it's solidly built and the fabric feels nice on skin, and i've not had any backache sitting on it for > 10 hours in a day, which is cool


AM office ergohuman
on first glance it looks comfortable, but sitting on it for 10mins the lower part of the lumbar support frame starts digging into my back, also the front seat frame also puts pressure on the lower thigh part, so that's a big no no.
didnt bother to test further


herman miller sayl
looks damn good with the striking colours and unique backrest design with decent lumbar support, seat depth and arm rest adjustments
the backrest design allows movement in the shoulder while maintaining support which is great if you tend to sit on it for a looooong time
it's very decent consider that this is considered an entry level HM
cons: no head rest, with all the bells and whistles i think it's close to 5k


herman miller aeron v2
to me it feels slightly more comfortable than contessa II due to the updated lumbar design which feels just right, very solidly built with 12 years warranty, lots of adjustments here and there
get the right size and i think i wont look back
not to mention the classic aeron look makes it the perfect background in any setup
cons: miskin laugh.gif V2 is 7.2k, V1 4.8k, find it hard to justify the V2, maybe in the near future i'll fork out for the new old stock V1 and give my wife the series II


herman miller cosm highback
the way this chair is built cradles you like you're in a hammock, so it's very relaxing to sit on, too bad it doesnt come with an adjustable lumbar and the 'leaf' armrest is more looks than functional
cons: miskin also laugh.gif the high back leaf armrest version is 9.9k




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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Feb 9 2021, 11:29 AM)
i customized a steelcase series II late last year (got them before new year) for ~1.8k, with everything, i.e. 4D adjustable arm rest, adjustable seat depth, live mesh back, head rest and hard floor castor (this thing rolls on smooooooth)
doesnt looks as exciting as the so called gaming chairs but it's very comfortable, the way the armrest is built onto chair allows you to sit cross legged if that's your kind of thing
best of all it's made in puchong, so buy malaysian first tongue.gif

the only down side so far with the series II is that the backrest doesnt lock reclined, it locks only on the straight position, but the quick set (uses a ratchet instead of the old school twist) weight activated reclination is #velinai
and the seat's fabric is abit on the rough side, so if you're wearing shorts, it wont feel as luxurious as softer cloth
another cons is the headrest isnt adjustable, but it's not intrusive so it wont eat into your 'headspace' if you're sitting straight

compared to the likes of :

contessa II
contessa II has a very very comfortable seat cushion, the multi density cushion really does alleviate the pressure off your ass
lumbar support works better on slimmer frames (because it narrows the back seat width instead of using some sort of contraption for support), ive not tried the one with the extra lumbar support
but it feels very supportive as it promotes the back to be in the natural curve and fits be quite well (171cm/66kg frame)
there's option to spec mesh seat cushion at no cost, which is nice if that's what you want
very stylish
this is quite costly though at 6k+
steelcase think
series II feels quite similar to think, but think's lumbar support mechanism is looser so the thing can goes off position after sometime and you'll need to put it up again
very ugly tongue.gif
ikea marcus
i bought the marcus after first MCO1.0 out of desperation, sold to another forumer early this year
the chair is meant for taller frame so if you're a tiny asian the build will overwhelm you and your feet will be left dangling because it can only go down so much
lumbar support is quite low, so it's not really useful, i put a lumbar support pillow bought from muji over it (https://www.muji.com/sg/products/cmdty/detail/4550002564025)
the arm rest is low so may not be that useful and the structure limits your movement on the chair so you cant sit kangkang

the only thing adjustable is the height  and the weight activated reclination is a bonus
but overall it's solidly built and the fabric feels nice on skin, and i've not had any backache sitting on it for > 10 hours in a day, which is cool
AM office ergohuman
on first glance it looks comfortable, but sitting on it for 10mins the lower part of the lumbar support frame starts digging into my back, also the front seat frame also puts pressure on the lower thigh part, so that's a big no no.
didnt bother to test further
herman miller sayl
looks damn good with the striking colours and unique backrest design with decent lumbar support, seat depth and arm rest adjustments
the backrest design allows movement in the shoulder while maintaining support which is great if you tend to sit on it for a looooong time
it's very decent consider that this is considered an entry level HM
cons: no head rest, with all the bells and whistles i think it's close to 5k
herman miller aeron v2
to me it feels slightly more comfortable than contessa II due to the updated lumbar design which feels just right, very solidly built with 12 years warranty, lots of adjustments here and there
get the right size and i think i wont look back
not to mention the classic aeron look makes it the perfect background in any setup
cons: miskin laugh.gif V2 is 7.2k, V1 4.8k, find it hard to justify the V2, maybe in the near future i'll fork out for the new old stock V1 and give my wife the series II
herman miller cosm highback
the way this chair is built cradles you like you're in a hammock, so it's very relaxing to sit on, too bad it doesnt come with an adjustable lumbar and the 'leaf' armrest is more looks than functional
cons: miskin also laugh.gif the high back leaf armrest version is 9.9k
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You tried the two herman millers? Sometimes I really want to fork out the money and just splurge on Herman Miller, once and for all investments. It doesn't have headrest though, which I really would love to have. Heard that you can add on to it, which is another RM1k there. whistling.gif
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i tried 4 HM actually

Aeron v1, v2, Sayl (im really tempted to get this, but Sayl doenst have that option, and it's a 12 weeks wait), and the Cosm



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