http://www.usa.canon.com/html/templatedata...820_1dsmk3.html

http://www.usa.canon.com/html/templatedata...070820_40d.html

Saw that, the 1dsmkIII sure is a monster, 21MP full frame, need to bring a bag of sd and cf cards to capture an event

This post has been edited by vpire: Aug 20 2007, 01:57 PM

Just heard the news. But its just an announcement so the actual product will take some time before entering our markets...

The EOSIDsMKIII is truly a moster and will be entering the realm of the smaller Hasselblads and Mamiya's. Price is gonna be RM28,999 Again I think since it was mentioned that its priced similarly to the EOS1DsMKII.

EOS 40D is a nice and majopr improvement from the 30D(I just got mine 2 months ago ). 6.5fps,3" LCD,DIGIC III and Self Cleaning is really tempting. Feel like disposing my 30D to get that later on. Its a worthwhile upgrade compared to when the 30D was launched over the 20D.

Good news to CANON fans as well, is the released of 3 new lenses. Woo Hoo...!

THanks for the new TS.

what the heck.. EFS18-55 f3.5-5/6 IS?

dont dispose ur 30D, give it to me

1D MARK III
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082009...s1dsmarkiii.asp

haha... kitlens with IS.


Haha... sure won't dispose like that lar..... Sell and get back capital......

55-250 with is
hopefully they place the price like wut nikon place it for their 55-200vr:lol:

so - who wanna let go of their 30D ah?

40D really quite tempting with the 3rd gen cmos. Will put on a good fight with the nikon D80.

I don't know about that. I'd put the D80 in a different class than with the 40D. The specs speak for itself. It will be interesting to see how NIKON would respond. A replacement for the D200 which was supposedly the rival of the 30D and maybe a full-frame Pro-DSLR would be great news....

You are right too, supposing the D80 should be fighting with 400D.
Nikon will have to come up with something to couteract the canon monster.

D200 should be full frame DSLR, they should have replacement model for D200 since this one had been exist for almost 2 years already.

Looks like canon will lead the pro market for awhile.

WARNING, HIGH-RES PICTURES!

Canon 1Ds Mark III



Canon 40D



This post has been edited by calvin_gsc: Aug 20 2007, 05:07 PM

Rumours from the leaked Olympus marketing PDF file states that there will be a 40D from Canon and a D300 from Nikon that goes head to head with the E-P1. I'm sure Nikon will release details of their D300 soon.

By the way, D80 is way out of the league of 40D.

somehow i don like the 40D menu button at the bottom , used to D80 left sided buttons..more Zhao Shao...haha

expect a huge camp jumping refugees

Although 40D is officially announced , the 30D still can't be seen in shelves thought !
Always tempted to try the 30D which even Canon booth doesnt promote it .

Anyway , anyone know the price for EOS 5D ? heard that it's 35mm full frame.
Saw a korean-like lady holding EOS 5D with 70-200mm F2.8 lens if not mistaken. ( for sure it's constant aperture size as it's damn huge ! )

it is a full frame well, what's more to say about full frame, the quality of the pics speaks for itself.

Most probably they are obsoleting 30D, that's why you can't see them in shelves anymore.

Expect loads of 2nd hand 30D in the market and that should be good news for you.

Don't compare with FF lar. Both are different levels. When got new FF like the 1Ds Mark III, then you will compare with MF.

I also saw my friend's wedding photographer using 5D to shoot. He's lucky to get such a pro user. Some charge damn high but only use 400D or D70s.

The replacement model of 5d will be released soon....... early next year probably


40d out on Merdeka 50th day... in Japan

This post has been edited by BeastX: Aug 20 2007, 09:13 PM

When using FF, cheap lens is not a good alternative at all... All sub par lens are not to be tolerated. So if you want to go FF, perhaps should start collecting some L lens now.

Wow , I never knows that 5D got lotsa of good reviews.
Anyone know how much 5D selling ?

That lady using it with 70-200mm f2.8 if not mistaken , damn huge !

If this is the lens, then it probably is the 70-200 F2.8L. I think that plus the cam already RM14K++.

I think not including the lens, that camera already cost about 12k but probably price decrease a little bit now.
Selangor photo have it, got somebody cash and carry that camera away and be a happy man.

rm 8 to 9k for the 5d...body.. retail in Japan

This post has been edited by BeastX: Aug 20 2007, 10:26 PM

Even here, the EOS 5D Body is around RM8K+, the EF 70-200 F2.8 L IS is RM6K+. So you more or less are paying for a EOS 1D mkIII Body only price.

Yes, i've been eying on this monster for quite some time. Wish that i have the cash to get it

I saw once at Lowyat plaza, a shop selling it for 13k+ with EOS 5D and 24-105 f4L IS. Now it should be cheaper than that, i think its around 11k? The body only can get 1 around 8k+ or maybe, cheaper.

This post has been edited by R a D ! c 4 L: Aug 20 2007, 11:24 PM

The with a kitlens of 24-105 F4 L IS, Its just so attactive, but only available to thouse with the dough....

The 5D, 30D should face another round of price cut.

The 1DsMkII & 1DMkIIn still got demand.

Anyhow, Canon just brought the "appeal to spend" to the next level.

That lady is really , holy cow.
After that , saw her rolling in a new E class with her husband aswell.

Guess the 5D will be our dream. ( dont even think of the new FF which coming )

Well, when you're loaded, any lens or camera body is not out of reach, heck i might go for a hasselblad

I have a hunch that the 5D markII will be out in no time

She drives an E Class? And walks around with a 5D+70-200 F2.8? And at first I thought she was a working photographer.... haha

Oh yeah, the powershot G9 is out too, with RAW!

I'd say this 40D is the ACTUAL UPGRADE from 20D.

Digic III, 3" LCD, live view, cross type sensor on all 9 focus points, 6.5fps, 10mp with newer coating to reduce noise... uber l33t

looks like i'll skip 30D plans.

With the all new AF System. it's way better than 30D where it only has cross type sensors in the center focus point

Sony just announced a 12.5mpx sensor with 10fps. I got a feeling that's what the D200 replacement model will be using.

Sony's CMOS is 12bit, the 40D CMOS is 14 bit A/D Conversion

12bit and 14bit is almost the same i think. we hardly notice the colour gap. correct me if i am wrong.

yes, ageell2004 right. cant wait to see sony's result

the fuji s5pro and 5d is gonna be slow like snail in comparison. 10fps is fun!

your hardisk and memory card will have fun....

later when you doing editing... lagi fun...

Congratulations! Canon.

Hope, my Nikon will response something soon.

Cheers All.

This post has been edited by *daniel*: Aug 21 2007, 03:12 PM

Actually there is a big difference between 12-bit and 14-bit processing. 14-bit data processing has 4 times the information than 12-bit data processing.

I think so (2^14) / (2^12) = 2^2 = 4
Correct me if I'm wrong.

However, difference to our eyes is significant or not .... is different issue.

This post has been edited by *daniel*: Aug 21 2007, 03:36 PM

u jumping?? wanna sell me ur current equipment?

according to Thom Hogan (u guys know him, correct?) , there will be a massive nikon dslr lineup in 2008
http://www.bythom.com/currentdslr.htm

Your calculation is correct but your assumption is wrong. There is a huge difference when it comes to photo processing with that 2 extra bits. You'll get higher dynamic range and better noise control just to say the least.

If you think that there is no difference to the eyes, then you don't need a dSLR, right? Might as well just stick to camera phones since they use maybe 8-bits processing only and won't be different with 12-bits, right?

ya the extra 2 bit will give 4 times more colour rending. but we hardly see the difference. maybe useful in medium format.
same thing here. do you always notice the difference of a 5ms lcd and 2ms lcd?

This post has been edited by ageell2004: Aug 22 2007, 07:35 AM

6D ? 7D? 8D?

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Added on August 22, 2007, 8:14 amsomehow i hav to agree with this statement....
get a faster computer.....

This post has been edited by yewkhuay: Aug 22 2007, 08:14 AM

OK, Sir. Thanks

hdd is not a problem for me, i have around half a tb of free space now since I stopped downloading tv series and porn. I'm trying to figure how to use them up memory card might be a problem.

A few months ago I heard about en EOS 3D. But untill today the released ones are EOS 40D, EOS 1D mkIII and EOS 1Ds mkIII. SO maybe the 3D is still there waiting to burst out....

erm....would it be nikon D3 n D300 ? new dark lord of nikon..

i thinks the price of wedding photography should not be derive fully on the gear. should be more to the photographer experience in wedding...how to compose, pose, candid, etc. the price is being paid for the quality, experience that the photographer had achieve not what gear is he/she is using..

once you see the difference, you will never want to go back to the noob DSLR.
try looking at a photograph taken using the digital back (16 bits)
blind wan also can tell the difference!

its like a normal tv vs HD 1080

blind one how to tel the difference ler... unless the photo become 3D.....

Well, I've seen the quality too. Of course it is worth the money he paid. What I'm comparing is price wise to be the same, you might not get such photographers who invest that much into their equipment. I've seen people paying RM8k for a package and get a photo shoot using a 400D. Which would you prefer? 5D or 400D?

I think it's just a metaphor.

any news about the update from 400D is it coming anything some, i am considering between d40x and 400d, but 400d have been out for more than a year, dont want to buy them after a few month comeout a new model.

@robertngo

No, I dont think the successor of 400D would be comin out that soon. Perhaps another 6 more months or more...

don't think like that or u'll end up not buying any camera. There will be always new model coming up. Just choose one that fit you now and some room for extension.

@robert

What vincent said is very true. Get one camera that suit you for the moment. The longer you wait the more models will be coming out. So when will you get your cam then?

can tutup kedai oready, nikon Lord D3 n D300 arised!!!

are you inviting flame here ?

let's compare the canon 1Ds Mark III and your Nikon Lord D3

Don't do this at a Canon oriented thread.

Pro Photographers might still go for the highend CANON. Especially companies with unlimited budget. Besides, the 21mp is creeping up digital backs territory aint it, so the 1Ds MkIII is still a good if not an outright better bet than the D3. But the D3 is good in terms of pricing. Lets see how CANON replaces the 5D.....

5D mark II

40D...is it out on the markets? when is it coming to our shores?sorry if its said earlier...

Nolah, more like those shops that stock up too many old models will tutup kedai, cannot sell
Cannot compare EOS 40D and EOS 1DS Mark III against D300 and D3. Both of them have their own good points as far as brand enthusiasts are concerned. If you ask me, I won't go for the EOS 1DS Mark III, the 1D Mark II or Mark III will still be my choice becoz I want performance and durability in my camera body. Drop a 40D or D300 on the floor and off to the manufacturer you go!

It's okay ... I defend neither Canon or Nikon if any of them screw up but ill-informed forum members are everywhere, you can't satisfy them all

From the looks of it, Canon might adopt the strategy like when they replaced EOS 300D with 350D : Something big is going to happen and 5D is gone for good OR Canon might do it like they did with 400D : They came out with 400D and say it's not a replacement to 350D due to the increase of MP, extra functions, bla bla bla. We can be looking at 6.5 frames per second, 3" LCD with 22MP EOS 6D with DIGIC III?

looks like i'll skip 30D plans

I don't know why, but the name EOS 3D just keeps popping up my mind. Make The 5D replacement model full weather protected..

Why? Getting a 40D/D300-ah?

Yalar, Canon buttock itchy start the model from '5D' ... now they can only go 'downwards' from '4D' to '2D'

only makes things confusing...but the closer the digit to 1D, they more advance it might be....i dun know... 3D would sound nice...its a popular word...haha

http://shashinki.com/shop/canon-megapixel-...only-p-881.html

Frankly, somebody also shared the same view.
Once I heard a photog telling his friend this logic, therefore his conclusion is EOS 10D is better than EOS 20D.
I almost LAUGH!.

Note: EOS 30D not launched yet at that time.

Numbers doing down within the EOS range are towards professional models, numbers going up within the same series are entry level models and semi-professional models.

I was at YLCamera and a few Pro Photographers were having a chat. They kept saying "Have to wait and see whats the news with the EOS 3D"...... Maybe they know something we dont'

no doubt Nikon D300 beat Canon 40D hands down on paper spec.
this may cause Canon to launch... may be 41D end of year to counter back?... wait and see ler...

Forget about 1DMKIII and D3, only the very rich and company can own one of these...

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Added on September 3, 2007, 5:34 pmJust ignore about the math... engineer can sell whatever good theory behind it, for consumer, the result count, right?

someone posted 14-bit vs 12-bit photo in dpreview. really, if you don't tell me which is 14 bit and which is 12 bit, i can't barely differentiate them even at 100% enlarge. while 12bit to 8bit is obvious though.. so more like marketing gimmick afterall as the result isn't obvious. May be 16-bit will have difference... the extra 2 bit in 14-bit is more like noise.

This post has been edited by mroctopus: Sep 3 2007, 05:37 PM

Aiyoyo...anybody wants to buy my 30D?

might go straight for a 1D3 instead of 40D

1D3 or 1Ds3?

Talking about countering back, I heard that CANON Desperate to win over the competition so they are like making last minute changes to their just released models. My local retailer told me they stop taking in Canon Powershot S5IS cos they heard Canon might be releasing a POwershot S7 IS Soon and Powershot G9. This is what I was told......

sell off my s5is ady to join the dark side

what does prosumer has to do with DSLR?

Nothing. Just that they seem desperate in their attempts to sway the news/hoo-haah back to their side by re-releasing models which are still new. If the news are to be believed to begin with. Even though its from different classes of cameras..

So since you mentioned a 41D or the like replacement for the 40D. HEY, They just might do it......

I think a lot of people got confused. When you buy an EOS, you are not buying the camera alone. You are buying the whole EOS systems. From the lens till the battery pack.

If we compare specs on paper, i think even a normal point and shoot may outshine any Canon EOS DSLR. Any the image quality depends a lot of the lens quality, not just the camera.

Therefore, before you buy any DSLR, think whether you will want to be serious into it. If you forever just use the kit lens, I think you should start with an used DSLR like the D70 or the EOS 350D.

This weekend there's Kuala Lumpur Photography Festival held in Berjaya Times Square. Admission is free. Rumor is that the newly announcement products on dpreview will be previewed there.

Yes, the new 40D & 1DsMk III will be displayed there.

when is Kuala Lumpur Photography Festival??

* sorry found it already

This post has been edited by ./Hack-Fusion: Sep 13 2007, 10:24 AM

Wah, the new 40D going to be there? Damn, I have to go check that out......

BUY BUY, time to sell off the 30D. Gai, canon no new lenses except the 16-35 mkII.

This post has been edited by gold3knight: Sep 14 2007, 01:52 PM

got new one i heard, the 18-50mm IS kitlens and the 55-250mm IS

so when u selling ur 30D

This post has been edited by vincent_audio: Sep 14 2007, 09:13 PM

Damn. Many ppl pressuring me to sell off my 30D. They waiting at my wings like vultures ready to tear onto a fresh corpse. I just got mine bro, maybe you go ahead and sell yours, then get the 40D or 1dMkIII then give me a review . But I can only think of an upgrade to the 40D only, if I'm worthy of it to begin with.....


Yes, those 2 lenses as well as the brand new, uber expensive, EF 14mm F2.8 L mkII.

But I think it won't be dominated by EOS ONly. The new Powershot G9 should make an apperance. And maybe a POwershot S7 IS Suprise???

This post has been edited by julchin_09: Sep 15 2007, 02:23 AM

I'm going to be there tomorrow.... because I've sold my 30d last Sunday with the anticipation of 40D.....

Hopefully, they're selling some 40D.... otherwise... I'm heading to KL Plaza...

Great, get the 40D then give us a real handson review.

Thanks.

How was the fair? Interested Southerner here......