Hi all. My parents planned to extend their property at the back. Heres my problems:
1. They wish to extend their bedroom as it is kind of small.
2. The orange circle zone, which is current wet kitchen is very narrow, we planned to move the toilet to the back of the bedroom, then it become dry kitchen, and the extended area become wet kitchen and balcony.
3. If we move the toilet to the back, the bedroom will become very dark.
4. Is the room brightness / ventilation problem can be solved if we put either vertical window at the corner of the room, or a horizontal window at the top of the wall, like photos below?

Please help tq

It's pretty hard to understand your logic. You want to make the bedroom bigger but yet you want to stick a toilet to the room?
First moving toilet is not cheap and one shouldn't simply move just for moving sake. Second, balcony is useless in our weather. If you really need a wet kitchen then convert the right side of balcony to wet kitchen while retain the left may be for drying clothes?

Sorry for the poor drawing skill. Let me try to separate them with different colour and more detailed drawing.
1. Agreed with you but if we move the toilet, our dry kitchen area will become spacious which my mum already planned to do bakery there.
2. My parents insist to have a little balcony at the back for drying clothes and doing some exercises in the morning so, just trying to fulfill their needs while keep their bedroom bright.

My answer is still the same. Moving toilet is messy and expensive. If not done well you will have leaks and other issues. I really don't see the need to do so but that's my opinion. You can split the balcony into 2 and extend the kitchen all the way out.
You need to seriously think why do you need wet and dry kitchens. Baking alone is not a reason to have dry kitchen especially if space is premium. But I think if you extend your kitchen all the way out it may still be ok to have 2 kitchens.
The bedroom should be adjacent to the balcony such that you don't have ventilation and light problem. Putting a toilet there and trying to figure out ways to solve the problem you created is just not smart to me. But that's my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by blancpain4470: Dec 13 2020, 10:29 PM

Yeah man. We did discuss about using the extended area as wet + dry kitchen and my mother prefers to separate them.
spent a few days to think a perfect way to fulfill all of their needs until otak sesak lol.
Appreciate your answer sir!

My suggestion is for the room to be placed next to the balcony for natural light and air circulation. Bathroom and storage room can be placed next to dry kitchen depending how you want to arrange it.


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Showing floor plan without the estimated dimension is diificult to give an opinion. For eg ... the house width can be 24, 22, 20 or even 18 feet.

What is before and after reno size for each space ?

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Dec 14 2020, 06:51 AM

Like mini orchard explained, include dimensions to the original plan as that provides meaningful assessment as to see how small is small.

My opinion:
1.Leave toilet where it is but take care of ventilation with extractor fan and tubes to exhaust it's air outside away from roof space, kitchen and dry area.
2. Shrink the bedroom until flush with toilet at the front facing side.
3. Expand bedroom at most 2-2.5m into yard but fill flush with toilet wall where it meets kitchen. Have sliding door access to the backyard.
4. Use light blocks to let let infiltrate toilet at the kitchen side so that is not too dark.
5. Use something like Hotata to hang laundry overhead (roof must be able to bear the load) or those wall mounted pull out laundry rack (2m width minimum).
6. Separate wet kitchen from yard and dry kitchen with bifold doors. There are creative configuration for kitchens that can be played around. Ikea or pinterest can give good ideas for the given layout and inspiration.

Caveat: indahwater sewerage inspection port location, beams and support pillars not taken into account which may render the suggestion non-applicable.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Dec 14 2020, 12:50 PM

Alright. Let me do the measurement tonight and update you all again. Thanks.

Appreciate your suggestions!
Oh yea, I recalled another reason to move the toilet to the back is that my mother is not happy to have a toilet in the middle of the house haha.
yeah, we are still at very early stage of planning so everything still can be modified and change if there is a good reason. Just trying to create a comfy and well-planned space for my parents as they spend most of their time on their business, never have a chance to enjoy life. Thanks again everyone

Why don't you do like this instead? You could preserve the position of the toilet.

But then again, like others said, without dimension, it's hard to suggest a workable solution.