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 Want to migrate out of Malaysia, Any recommended agencies?

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post Dec 7 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Endeavour @ Dec 7 2020, 10:29 AM)
Thinking about Australia, Canada, UAE, Netherlands...

Anyone have any recommendations for agencies I can speak to about this? Too many scammy ones out there...
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QUOTE(Endeavour @ Dec 7 2020, 10:40 AM)
Is there a way to simplify these things perhaps? Do shortcuts even exist actually? Because most requirements seem to be the need to have relatives there, certain amounts of $ in your bank accounts, job secured etc etc

Or maybe I'm just being too damn lazy and I should just try it out myself lol (sorry if this is the case, been too busy with work)
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Do it yourself, it's easy. Your application does not get any preferential treatment just because you use an agent. In fact it can be riskier to use an agent as agents can either be scams or they just do a shitty job....i.e. lose your documents, send wrong thing, give wrong advice, keep on changing rep that follows your case. All these can delay your application...so why would you open yourself to that. Again, no preferential treatments when your application is examined.

Of the 4 countries that you mentioned, Canada and Australia have structured intake processes to bring in immigrants and you do not really need any connection to those countries to move there. For Australia and Canada, all information that you need can be obtained from the relevant government websites. Those are your only true source, all documents and guidance that you ever need are there.

There are many classes, some require you to have job offers, some do not, some will bind your to a province/state, some do not. Some will require you to invest in a local business, some will not. So it's best to see which class is the most advantageous to you.

No such thing as shortcuts....anyone who claims that there's a way in other than the standard process is just BS, penipu scammer.

Once you are done here and actually do make the move, that's the just phase one completed.

You have then need to worry about settling in, if you have a job offer that takes off a big load but if you do not...........then that is tougher, you may end up doing shitty jobs for a few years before a breakthrough.....for many it will be never at all. Just because you were a manager or above in msia doesn't mean you will get something similar abroad, you may need to start from below again sometimes in a totally different field. This can be quite stressful and can be a push factor back to msia. T

That's why a lot of people try to make the move with an internal transfer at hand...therefore they enter laterally, avoid the whole local experience requirement. For example lah, you work for Shell Msia for a few years and have relevant and pertinent core business skills.....not some back office invoicing or admin BS, there's always opportunities to transfer to australia or Canada or Netherlands or UAE if there's a market need.



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post Dec 7 2020, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Dec 7 2020, 01:04 PM)
If you are below 45 you can usually apply for skills migration instead of business migration which require you to plonk down a large sum of money.

Migration agencies can't "pull cable" for you but they can identify govt schemes where you can apply under to make it easier to qualify. My cousin paid RM10K for agency fees to apply to Australia and he got in under a little known Queensland engineering scheme.

Canada is your best bet as it is easier to get in. Forget about UAE. It is almost impossible.
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lol.....RM10k for public information that can be googled simply, your cousin is a rich idiot........each state in australia has its own bespoke program. All that is required is one sunday afternoon to do this research.

A single application to immigrate to Canada today only about C$1.3k.......used to be cheaper. So to pay RM10k for information.....woah
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post Dec 7 2020, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Endeavour @ Dec 7 2020, 03:27 PM)
Lovin' the answers everyone. Thanks especially to [email=feynman]feynman[/email] for the inputs!

My current company has business arms in a few number of different countries, but managing support services at Group level...i'm not sure how easy it is for me to angle my exit to those other countries even though i've seen it being done before (favoritism). My job is something more...progressive. It's sustainability-related (think putting the green in green bonds, sustainability statements), so I don't think its as 'valuable' as the engineering guys and all. But of course never try never know.

It's just always advertised from these agencies that they can help you substantially etc etc so I thought that may very well be a real thing. Tbh I don't mind working shitty jobs at the start, honestly. I just need a solid foot in first...
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Then you need to start to jilat the right people to see if opportunities open up. As you know, these jobs are not advertised, it's through conversations of your bosses. Start talking to you boss and see if there's an appetite to help you. If you sense that the company has no desire to do such a thing, then you gotta decide what the plan is as you'll be heading in cold. Speak to friends and network in the target country see what they say and what they can do for you.

I know it's odd, there are people with years of experience and somehow they are told to do unpaid internships at their new countries.......its just a form of discrimination.


QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 7 2020, 04:34 PM)
But you still need English certificate to proof language proficiency, right? Everywhere I read demands toefl/ielts/etc for those English speaking countries. But I also seen people migrating there without any English cert. How is that possible?
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Again depends on class of immigration, all legal. Some do, some do not. When I say some do, some even require that a British citizen to submit IELTS, that's how stupid it is.
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post Dec 8 2020, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 8 2020, 11:41 AM)
I see migration is still a hot topic, despite the pandemic...albeit less than before....

And the usual suspects still around.... Feynman, Kenji etc....

Specific to Australia, migration is almost at a standstill for most of this year....those granted visas cannot enter anyway....
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