If they let you choose whatever you want, that's acceptable to a certain extent.

What I'm trying to highlight is freedom of choice. How would you feel if you buy rice and a store says you need to buy overpriced disposable chopsticks, a plastic plate that's not food grade safe, and a container that has BPA?


I worked in the games retail industry 15 years ago, I have forced PWP onto people who wanted to buy PS3s, 360s and Wiis at the time. Not proud of it. I can honestly tell you the accessories that is forced upon customers, the profit margin is actually higher than if you buy a game or an official accessory like a controller. Today, that practice remains the same because that profit margin hasn't changed.

I dare you to ask any of these retailers about their profit margin, see what bullshit excuses they give you.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jul 1 2022, 04:58 PM

Forced PWP accessories from supplier has been a normal practice since PS2 days lol. It won't change because that's simply how the business culture is.

There are plenty of other shady business deals that goes on behind the scenes. If you've not worked in the games retail industry (for Malaysia), you won't see the shit that goes on. It's a very grey area, so much so that even authorities cannot do anything about it.

Unless the imported set of a Dualsense is like half price of a MY set, always get the MY set considering how fast the controller breaks. Good to have the warranty.

I can't share everything, I'd rather make a youtube video instead as it's way too long to type everything out.

Here's a few though;

1) Sudden last minute fluctuation in game prices.
Not so relevant now a days since there's really only 2 major distros left in this country. But back in the PS3 days, there were many more major distros around. Ever wondered why game prices during the PS3 days always changed from RM160 to RM220? How come certain games (such as very hyped ones like AAA titles) often have higher prices than games that came out in the same week but aren't priced as high? Why wasn't there a law where we have a SRP rule to abide by?

Because major distros will move up their stock prices as more retailers take from them. It's the supply and demand issue at play here. SRP konon say RM189, stock price RM150. But when go and take stock, suddenly SRP goes up to RM200. That literally breaks the definition of SRP. They then blame it on USD going up, MYR dropping eventhough the stock is already in their hand BEFORE any changes in the FOREX market lol. Anyone took action? Nope. You simply accept it and it became a culture.


2) Accessories being labeled as "original" but they actually aren't.
I'm sure you've heard of accessories being the AA grade and then Ori grade. Why do some retailers sell their AA grade but call them original? By definition, they're technically not wrong. It's original in the form of an "AA" grade, meaning it's original but fake.

We now have certifications by MSC where electronic products needs to be certified. Back then, we print our own foil stickers and sell these so called "AA" grade accessories as original. Who is watching?


3) Piracy was rampant, but do you know which sort of piracy that had the highest profit margin?
No secret that piracy at the time was as common as people buying KFC. But did you know that the PS1, PS2 and 360 pirated discs actually cost a pretty dime? Why? Because when we go and take them from the distros, we're forced to take a large MOQ. By that I mean at least 50 discs, at a cost of RM3 per disc for ONE game. If a game has multiple disc, well you do the math.

So how did retailers survive? Online piracy. Fortunately for us but unfortunate if you're Nintendo and Sony, the DS and PSP's piracy scene was insane. How much does it cost to download a game? Zero. Literally.
When retailers sells you a cracked DS or PSP, all they needed to do was copy whatever game you want from a list into the memory flash card. You are charged RM5 to RM10 per game, based on a "tier system".

You didn't visit me at PSzone, otherwise I free copy pasta for you je.

+10 to Elden Ring.

GOTY easy.
Great for casuals too.

Bruh. You drunk.

Imagine if Sony actually locks you out of the console's storage because you added storage you paid money for.

Would like to remind people that Horizon Forbidden West PS4 version can be found for less than RM190. Because Sony no balls u-turn, the PS4 version is still eligible for free upgrade to the PS5 version.

Also surprised to see the option to include a Corsair MP600 pro LPX as an additional purchase in their latest interest form.

Just wanna note that the MP600 PLPX isn't a bad drive, but somewhat overpriced. You can get a Kingston KC3000 (which uses the same Phison E18 controller with Micron's latest 176 layer TLC NAND) for less money (just bought a 1TB for RM600), then have extra money to buy a the Sabrent or PNY nvme PS5 heatsinks (can be had for ~RM110) which will cool better than the MP600's included heatsink.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jul 8 2022, 04:37 PM

Put the PS4 disc into your PS5, go to the store, "purchase" the PS5 version. It'll get added to your cart for $0.00.

Yes.

You can.
But it's a sure fire way to kill the controller on the SSD within a year, along with having to deal with throttling which will affect how games work.

Even a cheap ass no name OEM heatsink will do wonders. There's no reason you shouldn't get one.

On a side note, why do you have to get the WD SN850? It's overpriced because of the name.

Which am I suggesting what? SSD or heatsink?

The SSDs I recommend (and have tested) to buy in Malaysia:

- Kingston KC3000
- Gigabyte Aorus 7000s
- Adata S70 Blade
- Corsair MP600 Pro LPX
- Crucial P5 Plus

Those are usually the cheapest drives available in Malaysia. The Kingston, Gigabyte and Corsair all uses Phison E18 controllers. The Adata uses Innogrit IG5236, which is usually the fastest but also the hottest. Crucial P5 Plus uses Crucial's own in-house controller, built by Micron but because Micron owns Crucial, it's not uncommon to find Crucial drives being the cheapest because they own the NAND that they supply to about almost every other company out there.

What you do is you find the best deal available at the storage size you want.

I'm personally using a Kingston KC3000 with a PNY PS5 NVME heatsink, which still ends up cheaper than a WD SN850 WITHOUT a heatsink lol.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jul 12 2022, 11:52 PM

That sounds like a second hand price? Usually wouldn't take second hand SSDs because who knows what the previous user has done on the flash NAND.

But if RM500++ for a NEW 1TB SN850, then yes it's a good deal.

I hope you're not mistaking the SN750 for a SN850....

Note that if you did register your PS5 for the extra 3 months warranty irregardless of whether you have an extended warranty or not, the extra 3 months also covers the controller that comes with the box.

In fact ANYTHING that comes in the box is covered by the 15 months extended warranty.

IDK if it's true (I just heard from some of my old friends from the distro side), but that's part of the deal resellers get more stock allocation but they're not applicable to get the 2 years extended warranty.


No?

If you buy a PS5 today, you register it on this ancient HK site, you'll get an extra 3 months warranty. Everything that comes with the box is covered in this 15 months warranty period.

However if you purchase the extended 2 years warranty from Sony MY, that warranty only applies to the console and NOTHING else in the box.

Why do they have this 2 tier warranty system? There are several reasons, some quite controversial so I'm not sure if I should reveal it in a public forum.

Yes.

No.

Ingat Sony bodo meh? You still need the disc to be in the drive for authentication prior to launching the game.

Just saw it. Yeah that's a pretty solid deal then.

Honestly purchasing the drive WITHOUT the heatsink is better because the PNY or Sabrent PS5 heatsinks are way better than the WD one.