Well. You are right. You see for those companies, it's not really about performance or even productivity. It's just that the boss had some issues when he was young and now he just want to vent his frustration on the employees. You see, your boss is a control freak and he probably thinks almost everyone in the company are animals.

You made the mistake of joining this company in the first place. If you really have ability, you would have probably left a long time ago. Maybe you should plan to leave because really, this company really sux.

Actually, the situation can become very awkward when say someone which they cannot afford to let go at the moment stand up against them. For example me. Cinapek company are actually pretty easy to control. When you have something important, they cannot afford to let you go. And remember, no one wants to go to such a company so they probably know that they will not be able to replace you for a long time.

Now that I am working in this company for a short while, I realize only incapable people stay there. But then misery loves misery. And because I have something important. I can "play" around with them.

And I know those incapable people probably hate my guts. You see, I can do what I do because I am almost "indispensable". You know that they are incapable already because they can be so easily brainwashed and controlled.

Actually, most of those cinapek bosses really are not that smart. Serious. And they have serious issues when they were young that's why they think they now become bosses they can treat you like a slave just because they are your bosses. Stay there longer and you start to think like your cinapek boss. It's not good.

This post has been edited by sickjoker: Dec 7 2020, 09:05 PM

Unfortunately, you are dealing with people who wants to make life difficult for others.

If you really think about it. The core of the issue was never just about "punctuality"

I feel really sorry for you.

One reason why clock in never works.

Let's say I left my phone at my house. If I go back to my house to take my phone, I will most probably be 5 minutes late. So I just go to the office anyway. Do you think I will be able to concentrate for the rest of the day?

But people get penalized for stupid things such as this instead of getting their work done

This post has been edited by sickjoker: Dec 8 2020, 10:25 AM

Well. Typical. But then, we can see people trying to defend this old man behavoir.

In an MNC, this guy will be kick out no question. But then in a cinapek company, you can do virtually anything once you reach a certain position like I implied earlier. This guy basically knows once he uses this tactic, he basically wins. But then we also know that this guy is probably shameless. What kind of person will behave like this at such a age? No shame? See. This is what happens when you stay in a toxic environment for too long.

In fact, I am still "adapting" working in a cinapek company. A person can virtually be useless but yet still get away with it just because that person has experience in working at a small company. I dunno. They can virtually steal and take your credit in an obvious manner and still get away with it. And there is no shame in them doing it at all even though it is so obvious. And the stupid manager will somehow still side with that person. For example, I provided a architecture diagram for the whole system. The new person that comes in just made a little change to that diagram, prettify it and then send it to the group. And of course the stupid manager sided her because I am in very bad terms with him.

Now you know why that 40 year old can cry and still get away with it.

So the question is, do you really want to deteriorate to such a level working in this kind of conditions.

I know one thing. Once I resign and the whole system get messed up in the process, that manager will still continue in his ways just because he can.

Actually let me add something to make this more interesting.

I have shown very clear intentions of leaving. And yet I was still "mistreated" just because I show face to my boss.

Of course, if they could kick me out, they would have done so a long time ago but yet for some reason my boss treated me not in the best possible way.

The thing is, I am like a walking time bomb. Once I leave, the project that I am involved in will probably take a very "long time" to restart again seeing the capabilities of the people joining my team.

But then my boss still thinks that he is actually "god".

See the stupidity in this kind of company?

Actually adding one more observation.

The person who newly arrived acted arrogantly towards me even though she needed to learn about the system from me and also her abilities are not really up to par. I dunno how chinapek companies work. But then in most scenarios, this person would probably be let go right since if I cannot work with her, I will have to request to the boss that she leaves.

But then she probably knows how the system work having work in cinapek companies b4.

To be honest, I still do not understand why receive salary by 7th. All cinaman companies seem to be like that.

When you pay by 7th, how am I going to pay my credit card fees, my rental etc.

You sure provide in valuable advice.

To be honest, why would the ceo even ask you to try to be early? You really should get out of the company as soon as possible.

Actually you should hint to the ceo that if he tries to be funny, you may actually think of leaving the company.

Actually a highly motivated workforce do not even need to worry about punctuality issues.

Once you put punctuality as one of the "requirement" when punctuality is not actually required you introduce more politics into the company.

Now a person can say that he is a "better" worker just because he is more punctual then the others. But yet the others may be more productive.

It's a joke really if you think about the entire time in time out system.

If say I go back at say 6pm or 7pm. I reach home at say 8 or 9 after dinner, traffic jam etc. Do you think anyone would have mood to finish their work?

whereelse if i go back earlier. I rest a little bit. I still have hours left to work.

A good leader can make the team motivated if he really cares for the team.

On the other hand, a bad leader who introduce pointless sop like punctuality will always be left with incapable people in the team in the end.
People who only know how to bullshit instead of working properly. And their project end up to be a failure.

The issue here is arriving and departing from office.

Obviously everyone knows the importance of being on time for meetings. And also delivery of tasks on time.

Why are you changing the topic?

You see. That is the issue.

Unfortunately, you are dealing with drones .

Those people who follow all the rules are most of the time the incapable ones.

Not really actually.

The stuff responsibility is to deliver the work that he has promised. If part of the work includes arriving on time, then yes, he should arrive on time.

That's because for most functionalities, the agreed time to start work is not really a necessity. It's there just because of formalities.

Everyone knows that this demand to arrive on time is just to please the HR and also the management's ego. HR do not have much to do and so introduce unnecessary rules for everyone else to follow.

It's a well known fact that companies that adhere strictly to rules such as being punctual in the office often leads to most tension and the best people will not want to stay in such companies.

As for coming to meeting with a set start time. Well, I have to respect the time of the other people in the meeting right?

That's why most people do not follow the start time that is stated in the contract because we know that it's a joke really. It's just there just to follow formalities. Employers know if they really implement that start time rule. All of their talent will probably leave the company.

I can already imagine what kind of working conditions your company is in. Already you are trying to play politics even in this forum. You have just indicated your capabilities to me.