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 [WTA] Who is Lau Li Kung?, The most luckiest Malaysian on earth

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post Aug 11 2022, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Aug 11 2022, 09:23 AM)
I doubt big companies do that though coz for them the expenses for prizes memang kena spend anyway. It's just who gets it (which generally doesn't matter to them because can't participate). I'm just wondering whether these contests are properly audited, and with this LLK winning often, anyone ever report to authorities to look into any foul play.
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The shareholders won't bother since the expenses must be spent. If no people report, then no investigation. And this is time-consuming since I doubt the p will be so free to stalk him all the time. If there were fraud, LLK must have contacted the staff of those companies before.
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post Aug 12 2022, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 10 2022, 03:34 PM)
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QUOTE(amandamai @ Aug 11 2022, 10:45 PM)
and it's considered as victimless crime" ( if crime is a proper word for it).  he's just part of the system. A system where no genuine contestant is actually awarded the grand prize.
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Lotus just bought over the end of 2020.
The lotus one is confirmed suspicious already anyway if the pic is real. Revenue at least a few billion. Got 1.2M FB followers. Perhaps he is damn lucky in life or some supernatural power.

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he's not technically robbing anything from anybody.

Yes, if the winner is damn lucky. Or else it's unfair to all other potential winners.

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11. Participants are allowed to submit as many entries as they like. Each Participant is only eligible to
win ONE (1) Prize throughout the Contest Period.
14. Every 50th valid entry will be shortlisted to be in the running for the Prizes [“Shortlisted
Participants”].
15. Shortlisted Participants will be contacted via after the end of Promotion Period to take part in a quiz
to determine the prizes they are winning. The quiz consists of 2 questions.
The first Shortlisted Participants with the most accurate answers received by the Organizer via
Whatsapp during Quiz Time win the grand prizes, followed by the monthly prizes and consolation
prizes.


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post Aug 14 2022, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Aug 14 2022, 11:08 AM)
i will still give him the benefit of the doubt because some ppl would go to the extreme.

Like i used to collect receipts and food packages (really big big big chunks of receipts and food packages that could fill up the entire cupboard just for entering contests purpose)(because most contests require you to submit evidence of purchase). And my family actually won the contests.

It's just a simple trick. The more entries you submitted, the higher your chances of winning.
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Use the brain to analyse first before believing blindly. Not people say what then you believe it
For the lotus one, it is highly unlikely because they opened the contest for 2 months. And Every 50th valid entry only be shortlisted. This means you must send 51 entries at the same time only to confirm getting shortlisted 1 time. And each entry cost Rm100. That already cost 5100. It means you only can send 15 times and below since the car costs RM80k, and it does not make sense that you want to make losses. There are 60 days in total. Even if you each day send one time, you only can pick 15 days to send. For the rest of 45days, got many other people to keep sending.

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post Aug 15 2022, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 15 2022, 05:18 PM)
No need.
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All he need is just to spam 50x at midnight to guarantee enroll into it to be "shortlisted participants"
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Every 50th valid entry will be shortlisted to be in the running for the Prizes [“Shortlisted Participants”].

total prize for entire campaign is 103 (grand/monthly/consolation), which mean organizer are expecting to have at least of 5150 of entries, if more than that it will be forfeit, if less than that 5150 entries, every 51th will get shortlisted or any other backup mechanism to handle the lack of participation.
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but according to my Paynet contest participation experience, it usually more than 5150 entries, otherwise organizer/partner (eg. Paynet/MyDebit/Lotus) will extend for anther 30-60 days.
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So if the above scenario are able to 99.99% to secured a slot for "shortlisted participants"
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So the next challenge will be luck and speed.
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Shortlisted Participants will be contacted via after the end of Promotion Period to take part in a quiz to determine the prizes they are winning. The quiz consists of 2 questions.
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The first Shortlisted Participants with the most accurate answers received by the Organizer via Whatsapp during Quiz Time win the grand prizes, followed by the monthly prizes and consolation
prizes.
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Shortlisted Participants who are not contactable via Whatsapp and/or did not submit their quiz answers during Quiz Time will be disqualified from winning in this Contest.

Given that he and his dupe able to score Grand Prize and First Prize, I think he really fast at replying the answer.
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I'm not on the Team of LLK or Anti-LLK. No doubt that people rage mode because he been spending so many for entries yet he still qualify as B40 for the handout from Government.
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Nola, 103 prizes only mean 103 people will be selected from all the 50th entries received. You only can send 15 times and below because it does not make sense if you want to make losses. The duration is 2 months. And Lotus revenue billions every year. 1.2M followers on FB. It's super unlikely will kena because the probability of you not being selected is so high, that it's even worse than playing baccarat.

Did you get an insider ke? brows.gif
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post Aug 15 2022, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 15 2022, 06:32 PM)
I'm not sure you don't get what I'm saying or I don't understand what you saying.
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If he can spam 50x of receipt/whatsapp/entry to get himself shortlisted to be one of the "every 50th entry", then why would he he spam 15 times of 50x entries.
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All you need is just pick a time where is low traffic of SMS/WhatsApp period of time, and use software to automatic it the sending the photo. So the best time is just pick a random midnight hour to do it.
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50x of entries = 1 shortlisted chance = RM100x50=RM5000 spending.
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Given that so far we found 2 of his dupe are wining the prize, I would bet he at least spending RM10k to farm 100x entries = 2 shortlisted chance.
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I wish I got someone from inside can pakat with me, but I'm one of those seasonal/part-time contest hunter. Reading TnC and finding the loophole around it is the step 1 to begin with, using some strategy will have some upper hand also.
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If he only spams 2 times vs thousands of shortlisted, that is the impossibility. Duh. There is no way you can ensure the organizer will pick you first since there are at least thousands of people at the 50th entry.

Btw there are 64 lotus stores nationwide. Let say each store shortlisted 2 people each day, 64X2X60days=7680! I only assume 2 shortlisted each day for each store, it could be more!! 1.2M FB followers ah LLK! laugh.gif

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post Aug 15 2022, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 15 2022, 07:01 PM)


Organizer have no time to "one by one" to shortlisted it. Everything is done using automatically or some sort of system/software and abit of man power.
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Like I said earlier, he is submit before the end of the 5,150 entries
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The formula is using the total prizes given out which is 103. And use 103 x every 50th entry = total entire campaign 5,150 entries.
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Any new entry coming in at 5151, 5152, 5153 will automatically disqualify.
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So organizer have to make sure all the 5150 entry are valid receipt and valid entry, if anyone found disqualify, then only pick someone backup.
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Dont assume LLK, according to terms, every 50th will be shortlisted, duration 2 months. No clause says after 5154 entries will be disqualified. Only repeated receipt will disqualify.
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post Aug 15 2022, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 15 2022, 07:23 PM)
Yes. You just said it. According to the terms with 2 months duration. Every 50th will be shortlisted. That is how he found the loophole to get himself shortlisted. Not exactly loophole but he is gaming the system/mechanism of the contest. Aside of high commitment per entry (RM100 each)
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And yes, repeated will be disqualify, I'm put an example scenario, what if anyone are coming in after 5150 entry, well they won't get shortlisted to the top/first 103 winners due to late sending in, they only pray for invalid entry, blur photo, so that the next backup 50th to be get shortlisted. Example, someone really get disqualify at 50th for blur photo or invalid entry or duplicated, so they have to pick 50th entry beyond the 5150 which is at 5200th. Do you get it?
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11. Participants are allowed to submit as many entries as they like. Each Participant is only eligible to
win ONE (1) Prize throughout the Contest Period.


LLK, you are getting out of control adi and probably you dunno what you were saying. Again I repeat, there is no clause to say after 5154 entries will be disqualified/won't get shortlisted to the top. Unless the organizers told you, is it.

If there is no paakt, how on earth can you ensure they would select you as the first shortlisted candidate? It's never been revealed in the T&C how they will make the selection. Logically it should be randomize, assuming the contest is fair and audited.

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post Aug 16 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 16 2022, 12:13 AM)
Calm la.
All the figures are just possibilities. Yes they might got chance, but 10+ Grand Prizes cars? Come on.
So easy to game the system by profession, practicing by years? Watch too much movie la.
Just i guess LLK doesnt care to low profile himself after being exposed.
Obviously the system is flaws and nobody give a damn.

Biasa la.
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Of course, everything has possibilities lar. But as in human nature, your betting must be based on the payout. Example high risk high return. It is unreasonable for you to play high risk low return stuff. He spent 10k and may only get the consolation prize since it's totally based on luck in this lotus.

For this lotus is high risk because you need to spend a lot to get shortlisted and cannot guarantee they will select you first. And the probability of you getting selected is too low due to the contest duration being 2 months and the uncountable of consumers daily. Assuming without paakt and idensir, you need to be super duper lucky to get selected as the first person to answer the questions. Even then no guarantee you can directly get the answer from google.

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What I mean 2 times = 100 entries (at least) = more than RM10,000 he spend. (RM100/bill/entry)

Organizer have no time to "one by one" to shortlisted it. Everything is done using automatically or some sort of system/software and abit of man power.
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Like I said earlier, he is submit before the end of the 5,150 entries
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The formula is using the total prizes given out which is 103. And use 103 x every 50th entry = total entire campaign 5,150 entries.
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Any new entry coming in at 5151, 5152, 5153 will automatically disqualify.
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You also noticed LLk only spent 10k to win over 80k(honda) and knew how it works from within. He needs to make he will be selected as the first one, and then know the timing of the questions being sent out(not like he doesn't need to sleep).

QUOTE(Blofeld @ Aug 16 2022, 09:13 AM)
Three of my family members have also won prizes in one same single contest before (and that's including the top three prizes). Luckily that time no socmed, if not will kena accused by ktards we are scammers. And we are not even related to the organisers.
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Your prizes are not cars. use the brain before simply to compare with llk. Every week also uncountable people can win 4D or 6D does not mean they cannot rig the jackpot winner. Even elections also can find fraud. Duh.



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post Aug 17 2022, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(xiaoxiaoshen @ Aug 17 2022, 12:11 PM)
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upcoming prize for Lau's Family.
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Where is the T&C for the X70? I want to analyse based on luck or can game the system. If without luck element, then it is fishy!
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post Aug 17 2022, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Aug 17 2022, 03:27 PM)
considering he is seasoned competitor, sure got some trick up his sleeve.
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if got luck element, no trick under your sleeve can help! if no need luck, you also can win X70 adi.

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post Aug 17 2022, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(xiaoxiaoshen @ Aug 17 2022, 04:46 PM)
if you study math further, the will be a function in scientific calculator call "random" this will randomly make selection.

i bet Lau Li Kung crack the code. he managed to predict upto 80% accuracy of that random number.

As most of the contest winner selection:
Participant will be shortlisted by the automated selection system based on the number of valid entries eligible for that Weekly Contest Period (for example Week 1 entries will be RANDOMLY selected among the Week 1
eligible entries
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Your ability to predict and how the organizer can select your one entry have no correlation. This is not roulette or bacarrat.

If you have never been in contact with the organizer before, there is no way you can know how they will make the selection. Logically it should be random, by hand or machine. To get selected randomly is already hard since you are not the only contestant.

QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 17 2022, 03:17 PM)
99speedmart maybe, but mr.diy unlikely, because item are hard to resell. unless he sapu those FMCG product from larger mr.diy store.
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hi llk or his partner, 99 speedmart is so hard for you already, because you only can win 1 weekly prize. and there will be 300 weekly winners to attend the final event. See what card is up ur sleeve this time.

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post Aug 18 2022, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 18 2022, 11:55 AM)
pakat with the organizer je. apa susah. wait my name on the winner annoucement je. owai.
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brows.gif brows.gif if now got 300 weekly winners in the final event, also you can win the car then too fishy already. laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2022, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 18 2022, 12:11 PM)
Maybe surname for all 100 proxies show up at HQ for grand prize drawing all start with Lau. mean sudah 33.33% chansi.
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maybe 99 adi suspect you adi, that's why make it 300 people to attend grand final? Other contests win car no like that rite I assume?
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post Aug 18 2022, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 18 2022, 02:31 PM)
Last time Giant MyDebit Spend RM60 got aprox. 70k entries back in 2015.
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Now 99speedmart Spend RM15, confirm at least 300k-450k entries.
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300 finalist maybe got 90% show up je, because 299 finalist gonna walk home empty hand. might as well steady wait at home for the Rm2k voucher.
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99 more people buy everyday even win 2k is not easy. You can submit 133 times only so as not to make losses. You think every week only got 133 customers mer?

if can see your name in final event, also abit fishy, if can win the car then confirm fishy brows.gif

llk name so hot adi,i think u will slow down first rite. laugh.gif

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post Aug 18 2022, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 18 2022, 05:03 PM)
No need. There is a strategy to submit certain amount of entry.
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Too much attention for the LLK. Want to know someone else? He also professional sweeper but just not as popular as LLK, which I accidentally dig into his trail last year before LLK make the headline.
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His name just show up on the recent winner list.
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no such thing as strategy la. If you no pakat with the insider, they can just simply select whoever they like. And this is not a casino.
Logically no people will become full time that can win so many cars.
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post Aug 18 2022, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 18 2022, 05:28 PM)
If you insists your believe that someone is pakat with him or anyone winner make it to the winner/finalist that will make you feel better, then that is fine.
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At the end of the day, everyone here me or you or others just have their own speculation, be it believing him or not is genuine or inside job. No solid evidence what.
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My take on this back on the topic.
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LLK genuine or fake inside job? I believe it.
How he did it? Nobody know. Don't ask me.
If I know, I won't be replying you here, I would be spending my time try to become the next LLK.
Why waste time to convince anyone here?
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The last time he show up here was 1 year ago, he also gave up try to convince anyone here and even abandoned the account, last login dunno berapa lama.
So did he quit wining? Nope, you and everyone here and me still see his name pop up here and there.
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But out of the topic that really raise everyone curious about, why he is B40 with such high cash flow to keep spend here and there? All contest require to spend.
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Ok ok, thats why he is fake lar, mesti inside job, no need spend, straight win grand prize, no need audit right? which explained he is B40, a ghost, phantom, mule, proxy (whatever u like to call) that pakat with organizer. But why nobody ask is all the contest he able to win Grand Prize are from the same contest/event organizer?
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So mana logic? You say logically right?
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If the majority already feel you either pakat or cheat, then it's you llk to show proof that you can game the system. That's all. You showed nothing. Whereas I already showed you the lotus one has luck element.

I can assure only llk himself or his accomplice will defend llk because no reasonable people will believe that he can win all the cars by luck.
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post Aug 18 2022, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 18 2022, 05:59 PM)
You say have luck element right? Well maybe LLK really have high luck that nobody have which can't be explained by science or logic. How to show luck?
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Why LLK want to show proof? He gave up 1 year ago when he was here. He don't owe anyone explanation. He doesn't even give a fk about what you and me debating here today.
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So what is the definition of reasonable? 10 year win 1 car = reasonable? or 1 year win 3 cars = not reasonable? Who and how to set the benchmark for this?
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And yet you or others who read my post can feel free to quote me and jump into this conversation, can anyone able to dig/investigate all those relevant grand prize that LLK ever won from, those event organizer from the same companies or not?
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You are not different from super ring to saying something not convincing. Prove it that you can game the system, and you are so damn lucky. Are any such people in another country btw?
You cannot blame because in the real world, even elections can be rigged.

If you don't want to show proof, then don't blame people who think you paakt with inisnedr.

If you really win it solely with skills, you don't need to care how people think about you and secretly enjoy all the money by selling off the cars.


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post Aug 18 2022, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 18 2022, 06:22 PM)
Why keep hentam you, you, you, you, you? Why me? Couldn't able to find LLK, so now hentam all the stress upon me is it?
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Why we both can't have healthy debate or discussion? Oh okay, I get it, we are not in Serious /k. No wonder.
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I don't need to show proof to anyone, I'm not him.
He don't need to show proof too as he gave up 1 year ago to explain and he don't blame anyone, so does I, anyone want continue blame him or spread hatred toward him, go ahead.
He doesn't care what people think and yes, I think if he is still reading this thread, he must be laughing both of us (yes, both of us) for debate this non-sense, because he just gone missing off radar from everywhere socmed except show up on the winner list.
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okok kll or his accomplices...calm...awaiting your show in the grand final of 99. smile.gif
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QUOTE(laulk2020 @ Dec 2 2020, 01:47 AM)
I AM NOT WINNING BY LUCK.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 19 2022, 11:21 AM)
Too bad I no participate, next time if found any good contest, sila update here tau. wink.gif
Yes please.
That's why now he is found guilty in 7 charges include money laundering. owaaai.
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btw kll or the accomplices, do you dare to swear in front of the creator that you never paakt with any inisnedr before? and that you solely game the system without luck!

Because liars are everywhere, cannot simply to trust.
https://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/08/16/m...accuser-saiful/

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