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 Battle of Maling: General Pang Juan vs General Sun, Interesting Sun TzuChinese legend battle

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post Nov 29 2020, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Nov 29 2020, 09:28 PM)
better than Han Xin,.. he's the only successful General in history that is cripple,..
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hard to say he is better than Han Xin.
Han Xin himself was a great general on strategize how to use his army and one of the key factor why Liu Bang won in the end
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post Nov 29 2020, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Nov 29 2020, 09:51 PM)
the proverbs 圍魏救趙Besiege Wei To Rescue Zhao was about his 1st battle with Pang Juan,..

Han Xin was not as good as Zhang Liang who live a long life,.. Han Xin weak point was his hesitation to create his own power center, but instead help Liu Bang to defeat Xiang Yu,.. Last last, after win the war, he kena strip all military power from Liu Bang and got killed by his wife,.. without Zhang Liang, Liu Bang won't survived to rule whole China,.. but Zhang Liang fast fast quit his post and received pencen,.. he live a long live,..
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Both Han Xin and Zhang Liang (also Xiao He) were key success for Liu Bang, and of them played different roles. Zhang Liang was more an advisor and strategist for Liu Bang while Han Xin was a genius in war.
You can also say without Han Xin, Liu Bang can't even fight out from Ba Su.

The question is who better general not who live longer right?
By that time, Liu Bang already not trusted Han Xin after he got the throne, heck he not even trust his old friend Xiao He.

I don't see how Sun Bin is better than Han Xin in that regards of general.

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post Nov 29 2020, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(kitzai @ Nov 29 2020, 10:40 PM)
I like Han Xin story.
He was average under xiang yu and become prominent under liu bang.
Also become we share the same surname, lulz
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Xiang Yu is well known as being a noob ruler and not know how to use his men, he also known to nepotism always gave out important post to his relatives.
Though Xiang Yu himself was also a great general and militarist, he won all the battles but the last.

 

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