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 [2020]iPhone 12 Pro/Pro Max Discussion Thread | V3, It’s a leap year.

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post May 10 2021, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ May 9 2021, 07:52 PM)
Those who are postpaid also can compare the total cost of ownership with prepaid too. there is always a choice therefore the comparison.
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Some folks get their postpaid bills subsidised by company, hence it makes sense to get the phone from telco. But I agree that Malaysian Telcos don’t offer attractive subsidies for devices.

QUOTE(billychong930518 @ May 10 2021, 07:25 AM)
Guys, is it worth to get the magsafe charger?
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Depends on the individual, I guess. I’m not into wireless charging of any sort so it’s a no for me.

QUOTE(Phonzy @ May 10 2021, 09:55 AM)
i have a question not sure if here is the right place to ask but everyone seem to experience the whatsapp crash problem before together so here is a new one

recently my instagram doesn’t seem to be functioning on wifi, every other app and website works but the instagram keeps can’t refresh feed

when i jump back on mobile data everything is fine

does anyone know the fix?

thanks
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Maybe delete the app and reinstall it to see if it works?
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post May 11 2021, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(meltan @ May 10 2021, 11:53 PM)
Been using it for a few months. It’s very convenient if you travel alot and don’t wanna be carrying too many chargers around. IMO the price is abit too steep.
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Yeah, the price is too steep and there's just not much traveling going on at the moment laugh.gif I'm hoping we get an in-car wireless charger from Apple this year instead of all the third party ones.
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post May 11 2021, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 11 2021, 08:52 AM)
Yeah I would really love something like that magsafeduo. That one looks really good. Any other similar recommendations? I have the Apple Watch charger and the lightning cable for phones running amok right now. Very messy.
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There's a lot of cheaper options, not all certified but I guess if you stick to reputable brands like Aukey, Anker or Belkin then it should be OK.
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post May 20 2021, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ May 18 2021, 03:28 PM)
eh becareful with Nomad. I used it before and yes you don't feel the heat. you know why? Cause it's leather, it captured all the heat inside the case. Open the case and you will feel how hot your phone is. That's when I realised oh no, this is bad, sold off the Nomad case, never again use leather for me cause I really wouldn't know.
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I had the Nomad and while I didn't feel too much heat using it (maybe coz I don't play games and seldom use it for long periods of time at one go) but it's probably my last leather case too - it just needs too much TLC, hahaha...

QUOTE(fruitie @ May 19 2021, 04:27 PM)
By the way, anybody buying https://www.apple.com/my/shop/buy-airtag/airtag? I may buy one pack. laugh.gif
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What do you plan to track with it? Hahaha...
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post May 26 2021, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(billychong930518 @ May 25 2021, 03:56 PM)
Hi guys,

Is it worth to get the Apple Leather casing?
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Quite a number of folks provided feedback that it's a bit too fragile and doesn't provide adequate protection so it's a little too difficult to recommend it especially at the retail price.
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post Jun 22 2021, 09:44 PM

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https://www.lowyat.net/2021/242896/this-yea...-not-iphone-13/

Looks like the “S” series might return this year…
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post Jun 24 2021, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(dudewhatisthis @ Jun 23 2021, 10:30 PM)
Tinfoil hat on, take it with a grain of salt.

I think its because over time google became more proficient in collecting data for ads for your phone. I mean how else to explain androids mysterious battery drain when you sleep?
Android phones in general routinely drained at least 5% overnight for me regardless of turning wifi, data or whatever off whereas my iphone with everything on barely drains 2%.
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Couldn't agree more. I don't think it's just Google though - the phone makers themselves are equally guilty - well, at least, that's my experience with Samsung and Xiaomi. I can turn off mobile data and WiFi and I've seen my current Xiaomi phone (Redmi Note 10 Pro) drains as much as 7%-8% overnight and I've seen about 5%-6% drain on my previous Samsung devices. I remember the last Samsung phone I bought, when I opened it to set it up there was an update installed and thereafter the "optimizing app" message was displayed and it showed that it was optimizing some 150-200 apps - and this was before I installed anything on the phone. So I do get triggered when a Samsung fan comes up to me and says "Oh, nowadays Samsung interface very clean, no bloatware..." Hahaha... biggrin.gif

Not all Android phones are that bad though, I've had pleasant experiences with Realme phones that drain only 2%-3% overnight even with all settings left on.

QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jun 23 2021, 10:39 PM)
I think Iphone 11 still using Intel modem while Iphone 12 is a qualcomm modem. But I have absolutely no idea if the 11 Pro was horrible. I know my friend's XR has a completely faulty Wifi modem that Apple will not acknowledge or repair or replace. He can only ever get decent wifi from the same room. In other words the signal strength is very poor for his unit.

I know 2 persons using Iphone 11 of various versions not heard anything about poor reception.

There is a good chance you may have a lemon. For my case, I have reasonably strong reception strength, it is the problem with my Androids that they don't seem to like too much RF. You know that a noisy spectrum will still require a good device to isolate the right frequency for communication while ignoring the noise. (I am not an RF guy).

I can say that standby drain for me with any android over the last 5 years in my office has been easily 3% per hour while with my Iphone 12 it is roughly less than 1% per hour. I hardly use my phone at work to be honest and there could be days I only use the phone less than 1.5 hours whole day. So, I may come home doing nothing much then ending up with only 40% or 50%. Now with the Iphone I can use it for 2 to 3 hours and come home with 60-70%, basically almost double the battery life due to a combination of low standby drain, and a confirmed 12-13% battery use per hour Screen ON.
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Currently using an iPhone 11 after downgrading from an iPhone 12 and to be honest, I don't really see that much difference in signal strength although I've not done much real life testing on mobile data now that we are all mostly confined to our own homes and having the luxury of broadband, haha. I will say that when running speed tests more often than not the Intel modem would lag behind though.
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post Jun 24 2021, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jun 24 2021, 02:56 PM)
the underlying problem with Android is that good ones like Realme (and Huawei back then) is that their phones will battery optimize all apps and force them to shut down in the background. This should have been a system wide setting that does not require customisation like what you have in Kernel, but no, its been exposed open. So much so that even Google is issuing pleas to users to come forth to complain.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/07/18/ph...ation-features/

To me its a freaking mess. There really should be 1 OS, 1 way to fix this for all for good. The irony is Google core apps need to run in the background to continue to gather info for running their ad machine! OEM's are stuck on whether to continue let this be, at the expense of customer complaints on battery life or take action and break some apps / user experience randomly.

I realised this with my last 2-3 Androids and the nerd in me would've been looking for fixes here and there (Greenify, etc etc) but its 2021 and I'm officially too old for this shit.

Recently using IOS 14 I also realise that Iphones begin to have these controls. I hope we don't end up with this situation (I think we won't because no one can easily customise their IOS in the way Android can). But I'm worried a bit.
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Hahaha, yeah, you're definitely on point there. First thing I do when I buy Samsung or Xiaomi phones now is to find ways to remove all the unwanted software (without rooting, of course) then install apps like Naptime, etc. Hahaha...


QUOTE(silencer5089 @ Jun 24 2021, 03:00 PM)
why downgrade to 11 bro?
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Oh, long story. The 11 is a newly assigned company phone. When I first joined the company they gave me an old Oppo and told me they were gonna renew maxis contract this year and will give me a new phone. So I've been using an iPhone 12 for my personal use and the Oppo (model A-something, 2GB RAM and no FP sensor one... imagine) as my work phone. Then in January, when the company renewed the maxis contract. we were given a choice of iPhone 11 or OnePlus Nord - I chose the OP since I've got lots of chat history with colleagues, customers and business partners in WhatsApp which I'd like to preserve. But a week later, maxis told us the OP Nord was sold out so everyone got an iPhone 11, hahaha. So I sold my personal iPhone 12 and used the company 11 as my personal phone (while waiting for the 12S or 13 or whatever Apple wants to call it), returned the Oppo A-something to the company and bought a Redmi Note 10 Pro to use for work.
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post Jun 28 2021, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jun 26 2021, 05:35 PM)
Thought it won't happen to me but my nearly 2 months old ip12 Pro max died on me yesterday. Can't turn on, force restart doesn't do anything, undetected when connected to the computer, not charging and the worst of all, all authorised apple service centres are closed due to FMCO.

I'm sad. sad.gif
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Have you tried contacting Apple Support? Maybe ask them if you could send it back to them via post due to the current lockdown and the service centres are closed?

QUOTE(vez @ Jun 26 2021, 09:00 PM)
car service center is allow sweat.gif just went to service my car at same mukim last weekend
electronic service center should be allow to open... especially phone, after phone dead, how to scan mysejahtera sweat.gif
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Winning statement for FMCO 3.0, hahaha...
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post Jun 29 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jun 28 2021, 11:39 AM)
Yeah contacted and nearest service that open is in JB. I’m in KL. They didn’t mention anything about sending it via post. It’s distressing. sad.gif
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Did you ask them about it though - sending it via post? Ya, it is distressing particularly if you don't have a spare phone...
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post Jul 14 2021, 10:15 AM

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Coming soon for those who need the extra juice

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post Aug 19 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(tennytyy @ Aug 16 2021, 03:15 PM)
My 12 pro's battery is already at 98% after 7 months of usage.
Is it depleted fast or it's normal?
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After 7 months it should be normal.

QUOTE(fxgamerbah @ Aug 19 2021, 07:24 AM)
iPhone 13 pro max better in all aspect, gonna buy it when launch
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Well, we'll have to wait for the launch first to know for sure, won't we? biggrin.gif

Apple's track record suggest that not all aspects might be better, for example when I went to 12 Pro Max from 11 Pro Max, the battery life was poorer.
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post Aug 20 2021, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(yellowflashdude @ Aug 19 2021, 11:50 AM)
Heard the iPhone 13 line is going to have 120hz, would have held out for it if I knew. Nonetheless, very happy with my 12 pro
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120hz is nice to have but if Apple continues to be stingy with battery capacity, I'd rather they stick to 60hz no matter how "efficient" they claim their processors to be. I really felt the difference going from 11 Pro Max (3,969 mah) to 12 Pro Max (3,687 mah) - probably 1-1.5 hours less of screen time on a single charge.
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post Aug 20 2021, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(vez @ Aug 20 2021, 07:42 PM)
Apple will say this year chip more efficient, so offset the high refresh rate, gives us same usage hours tongue.gif
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Yes and..

QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Aug 20 2021, 09:18 PM)
And you will buy it anyways.  cool2.gif
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..yes biggrin.gif
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post Aug 23 2021, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Aug 21 2021, 05:45 PM)
Still gonna buy the 13 pro max tho. If the rumours are true, it’s a decent upgrade from my 11 pro max tongue.gif
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Well, a two year cycle is just about ideal for the iPhone, it can be argued there wasn’t much from the 11 Pro Max to the 12 Pro Max to warrant an upgrade - save for the new design and 5G - which obviously isn’t a thing yet here. I suspect they’ll sort of keep the design around for the next two or three gens of iPhones and just make incremental upgrades inside - all I need is a bigger battery. Come Apple, don’t skimp on that! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 24 2021, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Aug 24 2021, 05:07 PM)
Seems like your wish will come true.

"The iPhone 13 Pro Max is said to have a 4352mAh battery, up from 3687mAh in the iPhone 12 Pro Max"

https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-13/

And finally the Promotion 120hz display.....

Going back to 60Hz Displays is really  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Feels so laggy....
And The 13 could be "buttonless".

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/bye-bye-bu...e-onoff-button/
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So you can finally upgrade your XS Max bro smile.gif

I definitely will go with that battery capacity but then again, if the Promotion 120hz really sucks up juice then I’d settle for the battery life to match that of the 11 Pro Max.

Hahaha, I lived a couple of months with the “button-less” Mate 30 Pro and it was hardly ideal but do-able. Let’s hope the rumours are just rumours though, it’s just too inconvenient doh.gif

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post Aug 25 2021, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Aug 25 2021, 12:33 PM)
With a bigger battery and "optimization" by IOS I dont think battery usage would be an issue.  tongue.gif
But this round it is different. The "buttonless" is meant for the power button instead.
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I’m sceptical about the button-less, it seems to go against their mantra of “it just works” biggrin.gif

In the past year I’ve used a number of phones with displays ranging from 60hz to 120hz refresh rate and honestly, for me personally, I don’t think the higher refresh rates benefit me all that much. I mean I do appreciate the smoother scrolling and what not, but I don’t quite miss it even when I’m using my 60hz iPhone 11 now. It’s probably just me but I’d pick battery life over higher screen refresh rate. Let’s hope Apple finds a way to do it right.
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QUOTE(kamikraze @ Aug 25 2021, 11:35 PM)
all non-plus iphone had bad battery life, even need to be with powerbank to last a day. only plus series and later 11 onwards have considered good battery life.
we know and we still stick to iphone nonetheless.  icon_idea.gif
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I agree with you there, have bought all the “Plus” and “Max” iPhones since 6 Plus just for the battery life - although I would say of the lot even the XS Max was quite poor in terms of battery life. For me so far the best was the 11 Pro Max which I could squeeze two full days of usage out of. As for the smaller iPhones, the XR and the 11 have pretty good battery life, but the 12 isn’t as good.

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Aug 26 2021, 11:48 AM)

Lets face it, higher screen refresh rates = higher battery consumption and that is already a fact. A larger battery will offset the higher battery usage while I doubt Apple could do much with its software optimization. Bro... its time to move on. From HD we have moved on to 4k and soon 8k.  tongue.gif
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Haha, I definitely don’t need 4K resolution on a screen as small as a phone laugh.gif
4000mAh battery capacity would be the minimum for a phone display running 120hz refresh rate - anything less and I’m sure the “professional” reviewers will have a field day bashing Apple, hahaha… Let’s see smile.gif
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QUOTE(RDoe @ Sep 6 2021, 02:32 PM)
I've a feeling 13PM is going to be quite similar to 12PM, and there's no guarantee the battery life will be good enough for whatever new functions. I'd adopt a wait-and-see before deciding whether to change or fixing a resale price for the 12PM.  nod.gif
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Yeah, I have the same feeling too, given the 12PM was a total design change from the previous gen and Apple tends to stick to one design for a number of years before they move to the next complete design change. Also, the fact that there are no leaks on new cases for the 13 series suggest they’ll all be carried over laugh.gif

Battery life will be key for me - especially if they put a 120hz refresh rate display but stick to the measly battery capacity in the 12 series. That would be disastrous - no matter how efficient they claim the chipset to be.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Sep 8 2021, 08:41 AM)
Neither am I that excited over a 120Hz display over battery life. Chipset will be slightly larger as well as it is still on the 5nm process of the 12 series.
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Same here, I’d pick better battery life over high refresh rate screen any time of the day - but that’s just me smile.gif

QUOTE(MisterKibz @ Sep 8 2021, 09:06 AM)
Now the news of next iPhone 13 series launch is official, how many of you here are planning to sell off their iPhone 12Pro/Max?? brows.gif
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Might sell of my wife’s 12 Pro Max after I’ve tried the 13 and passed it on to her. I sold off my iPhone 12 a number of months ago and am now using a company assigned iPhone 11 - not allowed to sell that off, hehehe…

QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 8 2021, 10:00 AM)
Woot. It is coming! I am getting a new iPad this time, hopefully won't be attracted for iPhone 13. laugh.gif
Waiting for iPad Mini announcement before deciding which one to get. biggrin.gif
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I thought you already had an iPad, no? I think the iPad will get its own event in October. Let’s wait and see smile.gif

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