Hi,

Since normal DDR667 price is high like RM145 per piece, I am wondering if I should get the HyperX series.

The question now is value.... With overclockability in mind (motherboard gigabyte P35-DS3), how much can it go? Let's say with longer latency of 5-5-5-15?

Hope experinced users can give some lights here...

If you found review, please share as well.

Thanks for reading...

frankly speaking, HyperX isn't good for overclocking. The name is just marketing gimmick oni....using low binned chips found on value rams onli slightly better than value rams. My previous HyperX 800 can only go 1050mhz 5-5-5-15 2.3v. Any higher than 2.4v will coz errors. Not worth the value....just my 2 cents.

you could use it at default .... but can't oc much ...

if u are truly into ram oc ... crucial is the men ...

spent the additional money for full satisfaction...

Given a choice, u rather get value rams with good OC chips then to get Kingston HyperX coz its just a brand name and also the chips they use cant be OC-ed much, from what i read. Also, like the so called, king of OC, Dominator series... lol(its a joke that it is a king of OC)

THe king of OC for ram at the moment is Crucial bro.. you can ask the best overclockers here... i think they would agree with me too that crucial is DE ram for OC... (correct me if i am wrong)

i can run my hyper-x ddr800 at 1000mhz with 5-5-5-18 2.3vdimm before

it depends on wat RAM and wat chipset ur RAM is running on... usually D9, Samsung and Hynix are the best choice... get Crucial from Shawty also not bad... My advice: Don go for Kingston anymore... Kingston can use a walking stick these days...

i'm running this 24/7 at 2.05V...

how about corsair twin xms2 6400 800mhz?

Those are just so called performance ram but in reality they aren't really that good. Some value rams with high binned chips like crucial D9xxx rams perform way better. My D9GMH 533 can OC to 1100...more than 100% OC.

Corsair xms2 PC6400 was good in their revision 1.x (D9 Chip)
Other versions just no good.

-pWs-

This post has been edited by -pWs-: Aug 18 2007, 11:55 AM

Not bad. But still lose to a crucial ballistix 2x1gb PC6400.

Here's some info on the overclockability of the crucial rams (at least for my rams anyway....)

5-5-5-18 @ 2.0v - 1152mhz (pass superPI), 1120mhz (memtest stable)
4-4-4-4 @ 2.1v - 950mhz (memtest stable)

Now running at 5-4-4-8 at 2.1v at 1050mhz.....

Crucial is not the best ram but I consider it the best value-for-money performance rams....

4-4-4-(4) ?
I thought usually the last number is 2 digits, like 10 or 12.
AMD platform also can do 4-4-4-4? I'm doing 4-4-4-12 now. Not sure wanna try 4. Cause lazy to clear cmos if cant boot

Yup. 4-4-4-4!

However, I don't really see any difference between 4-4-4-4 and 4-4-4-8 or 4-4-4-12. I've read somewhere that it should be not more than 12 as sometimes the FSB strap comes into play. Don't really know....

Any ram expert can explain the tRAS running at 4 as compared to 8 or 12?

Now running at 5-4-4-8. I think the tRAS can go to 4 too but lazy to test for stability again....

well, when I changed from 4-4-4-15 to 12, superPI was faster (for all tests)

Your ballistix can do better than that....moreover your is a PC6400. Mine can run at 1066Mhz 4-4-4-8 2.35v.

nice timing bro but the 2.35v surely hot as HELL!!

different platform , bro .
one using AMD processor (memory controller)
another one using Intel processor (less memory sensitive)

i OCed 2 crucials so far, Ballistik and also Tracer..both gave me DDR1080 5-5-5-12 with only 1.95v
i would like to go higher but sadly i have no ram cooler

my previous XMS2? it was 2.1v for only DDR1000, and ant go further

no ram cooler? just use a normal fan for active cooling...simple.

u sure...? i get DDR1066 @ 5-5-5-20 at 2v...

i own kingston hyperx 667mhz 2x512mb , that time newbie , know nothing . just know buy high performance ram . i can pass 866mhz with 1.95v , maybe can higher . hvn try ...
heart pain , kingston hyperx isn't overclockable ....

well, 1.95v and 2.0v isnt too far
but yes, i managed to passed SuperPI 1M with that speed..didnt try 32M as it will just wasting my time..

Or if u wanna save a couple bucks, get the Normal KVR with Hynix FP-Y5. I've tested them and max OC are :

2.1V, DDR2 1034 5-6-6-12
2.2V, DDR2 1062 5-6-6-12

wow... tat's not saving juz a few bux... tat's half the buck we pay for a HyperX...

personal tests as well

patriot value rams @ rm130 1gb each at ALL IT sect 14 last saturday
Hynix fpy5 rev C Batch 714AA 1gb x2 with same part number can do ddr 938 5-6-6-18 at stock Volts(1.8v) but apparently rev b can do 5-5-5-15 1t at same speeds...or else u can try to find in LYP for mushkin value rams, with d9 chips of course =)

This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Aug 21 2007, 02:42 AM

err... i don think Mushkin Value RAMs got D9... at least tat's wat Mushkin told me... it seems tat EM high performance series and above are all D9...

Last weekend I bought 2x 1GB of Kingston Value Ram DDR2-800s (without heatspreader). I forgot to check the chips for details before I stuck on some cheap heatspreaders. But I got them to 900 at stock voltage and timings (5-5-5-15)

System was a E6550 @3.15GHz (7x450) stock voltage on IP-35 mobo.

Hadn't downloaded Orthos yet to do a stability test, but I ran a 10-hour overnight MPEG encoding batch job which maxed out the 2 cores. So I think it's stable enough.

Didn't expect the RAM to go so easily to 900 (wasn't originally planning to OC, so I decided not to splurge on RAM), so will be trying for more in the coming days.

This post has been edited by Traveler: Aug 21 2007, 12:04 PM

1GB kingston RAMs are all either Hynix or Samsung... no need to check... but dunno which chipset model number la... and 900 is 2 low for u...

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Aug 21 2007, 11:28 PM

no wor...got elpida chips ade, then got kingston stamped chips as well for 1gb sticks leh

those are quite rare... the Kingston 1GB RAMs i got are mostly either Hynix or Samsung... now no more d... now Mushkin pulak...

Did u open the heat spreader? DId it really show original manufacturer of the ram ship? I though it will rebranded as Patriot.

It seem HyperX is not really value for money. Plus I read some got problem at DDR800, where it is default at DDR667

I wish my memory has heat spreader, even thought I do not overclock a lot...

So.. How about the Corsair XMS2 DDR800 5-5-5-12 2GB Kit? It should be better buy then the Kinston, right?

a little update on it, ddr900mhz 5-5-5-15 1t possible @ 1.8v

there are no heat spreaders on this la, i didnt put the one with the elchepo ram spreaders, will post the pic up along with my vmod guide for a gfx card 2moro, coz i dunno where my digicam went to

wow...

lots of ram r programmed to be detected below the standard juz to make sure mobo can boot them correctly n let the user to adjust it... most ddr1066 n above r programmed at ddr800 or 667 too... the corsair xms2 is worst than kingston hyper-x... i used both of them before... kingston hyper-x is using infineon chipset... i can't even get the xms2 to run at 800mhz 4-4-4-12 or even 15 at 2.1v... it can barely reach 920mhz on my xms2 at 2.2v 5-5-5-15... maybe i'm bad luck or what... nowadays, lotsa chipset can reach 1000mhz easily n stable.. promos, infineon, elpida, hynix just to name a few...

Wah... Sure or not?

Aiya... What a late reply. I just bought 4 sticks of 1GB XMS2 yesterday...

Anyway, I yet to have time to assemble my new system.

xms2 has a ddr800 cl4 version if i'm not wrong... but anyway, u might have a different luck... hopefully...

Actually I am ok if I only let me run at 400Mhz, where I can already overclock my C2D into 2.8GHz at 1:1 without any voltage adjustment.

Well, maybe I will overclock the RAM a bit... just to round up the C2D figure into 3.0GHz...

yeah... most probably diff luck... cuz i still can't get Mushkin XP series...
this is wat i got... will try lower latency 2nite...

same here...

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Aug 29 2007, 08:06 PM

Since it is XMS why not push it a bit more than 3GHz for ur CPU..

Hmmm.. Yet to able to test my new gaming rig... Now what it lacking is the PSU....

Do you think I need 600W+ to push the RAM? Or 400W will do?

FYI, I have a 8800GTS 320MB

I think the Acbel 500Watt or Silverstone ST56F is sufficient.

I like the Acbel 500W with LCD display. But will it sufficient when I upgraded to 8800 GTX or ultra later?

While the silverstone ST56F was initially my plan... But the problem is the warranty... only one year.... sien... If confirm 3 years, sure I buy now, even today.

I bought from my PC they said 3 years, of course 1 year from MyPC and the rest maybe need to pay a little. If u r going to single card then its ok.

ooo... if ur GC got single 6-pin connector or don have than u can take my Topower(not the Top detergent ) TOP-600-P5 M2 600W PSU...

if u wanna upgrade later on than better take Silverstone OP series 800W...

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Aug 30 2007, 07:08 PM

I am not sure I paid MyPC a visit or not... But other shops that carry Silverstone do not have the PSU I wanted.

Never heard of Top le.... Detergent got la...

But I think oc ram does not require high PSU power...

it's Topower... OEM father of Tagan...
http://www.topower.com.tw/

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Sep 1 2007, 03:06 PM

I'm only using Kingston Value ram DDR-2 667 1G X 2 only.
But I am not sure, I think I clock my ram to 1648.2MHz

See here:-
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=220969

correct please if I'm wrong.......

1648.2MHz
DDR3 maybe
Your real DDR speed is 824MHz.

-pWs-

why did u multiply the 412MHz with 4?
its 412Mhz x 2 lor, which results DDR824

Thank you very much.......
Actually i still new and lots to learn from all of you, he... he...

Yeah dont misinterpret the quad pump fsb.

i using kingston hyperX DDR800 and biostar TA770+ . i can manage to get it at DDR 1066 with stock volatge and timing 4-4-4-12
but then why when i set that then the CPU-Z shows nothing in frequency and FSB:DRam column ?

should i set it back to DDR800 or stay with the DDR1066? what is the pros and cons? thx

u have one rare ddr2 800 kingston

uber rare mannn

not one but a pair

yeah coz most ddr2 8-- hyperx shit... is S**T, but urs... is rare.. when u bought it bro?

i think ehm mostly less than half years back or 3-4 months back

my fren jes bought a pair of hyper x too last week
okla... doin 9++ on cl4
rm195 for the kit......not bad

i would rather buy kingmax 1066 rather than so called hyper X performance ram... 1150mhz below 2v cl5 is easy.

how much for kingmax?
1150mhz cl5 below 2v meh?
at wat vdimm does it require to boot?
i heard summore kingmax vdimm warranty up to 2.4v izzit?

but its not so good on tight timings rite?

kingmax only good at cl 5. my previous kingmax can boot at 1150mhz wif only 1.92vdimm. just to make sure it stable for 24/7, i set it to 1.96vdimm at 1150mhz 5.5.5.15 performance level set to 5

This post has been edited by gamers maniac: Jul 27 2008, 09:25 PM

wouldnt be good when youre doing benchmark testings though since its on loose timings

my rojak setup result:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=402538

actually can do more than this, but now i use this setting for everyday use.
Ram : 1x 2gb DDR800 kingston value ram, 2 x 1Gb Aeneon DDR800 , 1 x 1Gb Mushkin EB2 DDR800 (5-5-5-18 @ 2.05 Volt ,2T )

and my cheapest ram (Aeneon) can do 1000Mhz alone.i bought this ram at rm78 per stick (7 months back).
and got another forumer can do 1050mhz using this ram.

This post has been edited by xeratos_85: Aug 13 2008, 07:27 PM

whats the performance level and trfc for your 1000Mhz cl5? how many vDimm u used?

ur using which kingmax? and do kingmax have 2gb ram? because it hard to find it at LYP. before this i used kingmax supperram PC3200 can OC till +- DDR500, which is worth for money.

what is trfc and performance level?