Dear Forumers, im not sure if this topic is to be discussed in Kopitiam, i do apologise if that is not the case.

So i am now searching for the most silent and comfortable tyre there is to replace the 7 year old CC5 on my mum's Waja. It still has 60% thread left but due to its age, its high time it needed changing.

In retrospect, my mum only uses the car to buy groceries and stuff within a 5km radius (on a once per week basis).

I had narrowed down the following tyres:

1. Conti Comfort Contact 6 (195/60/R15);
2. Michelin Primacy 4 (195/55/R15); or
3. Toyo Proxes CR1 (195/60/R15).

So i am hesitant to get the Michelin since it deviates from the original tyre spec of the Waja whereas the Toyo CR1 was recently launched and is promoted as a comfortable and silent tyre (can anyone testify to this?) and the CC6 is the natural successor to the CC5 (but it was introduced in 2017, hence the Michelin and the Toyo may prove to be more technologically advanced).

Therefore, i humbly request the dear forumers to give an input on this matter and end my predicament decisively.

Sincerely,
a person in need of help

Go for michelin

Best tayar is always mijilin.

Pick je which one you prefer as short distance travel only. Even got slight noise also not gonna bother la. Haha

can try open thread below kopitiam>fast and furios>tyre talk but slower traffic. keep this open anyway

Get CC6 only, way cheaper than Michelin and its not like your mom is going to travel very far anyways, I'm also using CC6 for work travel all over Malaysia, no problem at all. Just make sure to replace once worn out

nah, u guys got brainwashed by ad.
while their tyre waa good, my past experience told me that spending that much on michelin is just for placebo effect.
"im spending more for best tyre"

however when i compare like xm2 to toyo cf1 (same price range), i think the cf1 is better.

town driving, cc6 is your best bet if you want comfort and quiet tyre.

nothing comes close to it even michelin.

Michelin ps4. Its good if not great

why not soundproof the wheel arches as well?

Fit a 14inch rim then get the narrowest thickess tyre you can fit it.

U buy xm2 is not the best mijilin tayar.

Buy la PS4/Primacy.

If you have budget, can go for Michelin, safety > silence

Been using primacy since primacy 3st

I am a PS4 Michelin user. Smooooooooooooooth !

Usually more comfort means soft tyre, tread will wear off fast so it prob only last 20k mileage ~ 40k mileage depending on ur driving pattern, toyo 1 very gooding, very soft i tried once before but it wear off after merely 20k saja.

-grocery runs only
-need the most silent and comfortable tyre

ya i think i'll do just that. Is the smaller profile (195/55/R15) not going to pose an issue? Since the Waja uses 195/60/R15 size and Primacy 4 does not have it in that size..

michelin silent

but very fast makan

and exp

so prepare your wallet in the long run la TS

Why spend so much on a car tyres u don’t drive much

but PS4 doesn't have a size for a 15" rim. Only PS3 has it sadly. I myself am using a PS3 for my Persona and its one heck of a tyre!

Whichever u pick. Don't buy cc6

Idk why they come out with cc6 so much worse than cc5

You guys don't simply recommend tyres which TS mom can't take advantage of.

Since the main objective is to travel within 5 km to do groceries, CC6 is actually the most suitable tyre for TS mom. Cheap, comfort and quiet.

The PS4 will be grippier but it won't win CC6 in terms of comfort and silent. This I guarantee you.

You guys recommend him performance tyres for what? Waste money only.

This post has been edited by Thrust: Nov 24 2020, 08:50 AM

Im using M. More than 60k mileage still havent worn out

hmm maybe go for those sound dampening treatment also? or get a w213 or g30

primacy 4 got that size meh?

Once a week per use..

Not more than 5km ride

Wut da

Yes and no.

Go get a Michelin PS3 / PS4 and tell me you don't feel ANY difference compared to Conti CC5 / CC6 =D

Michelin XM2 (Budget Eco category) kinda no grip though, of which anything else seems to be a better buy.

ps4 size 15 masih lagi affordable. tapi kalau waja pakai ps4, buat pergi pasar je..macam tak berbaloi

When I bought new tyres for my cars last July, I did ask for the least noise and comfort (and also affordable). I asked 3 tyre shops, finally bought ContiComfort for 1 car and Pirelli Powergy for another car. I satisfied.

If ur from point a to point b, and donot require for frequent long distance travel, yea go for conti or micilin xm2 oso ok 1.

Xm2 comfort level ok, lesser rolling resistance, it ll be a fun drive to c ur car maintain at certain speed without stepping on ur pedal.

Ps series for those who can afford and seek for maximum driving pleasure la. Ts dont need uhp tyre series unless u can afford 1 la.

My advise is, think objectively rather than your own emotion or feeling. Short runs, used by your mum, low mileage etc etc. So why buy top priced tyres and keep it under porch most of the time?

My pick
1. Hankook Kinergy Eco 2
2. Dunlop J6
3. Goodyear ATM2
4. Toyo NE03 or CR1
5. Conti CC6

BRIDGESTONE ECOPIA

This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Nov 24 2020, 09:41 AM

Since the car is only use occasionally and only for short distance, I would suggest you go for Toyo NE03. If use for long distance, then only worth buying Michelin.

Primacy 4

dunlop j sport jer la

michellin primacy is well worth the money.

Good comfort, good grip and good wear

yo anyone had opinion on conti uc6 suv?
gooding or not?

is it worse? mind telling me why? using cc5 now and want to change soon, thinking of cc6 due to natural successor to cc5. daily use around 50km ulang alik kerja

Lol drive 5km and use michilin. Better just buy cc6 and replace every year if u have money.

2004 waja

Alahai the road noise n rattling n old suspension gonna b way more noisy than the tyres

Its a waste for primacy 4. Both a waste for the tyres which are excellent tyres and for your wallet.

This post has been edited by teehk_tee: Nov 24 2020, 11:37 AM

Ok la. Not bad. X70 premium using uc6.

Kongsi kedai mana jual Michelin PS4 size 15". Terima kasih.

xm is trash to begin with. It just last longer, nothing else.
However, for UHP, Michelin Pilot sport series is still the best. Not placebo.

CC6 shows great improvement over CC5 according to their data la https://autobuzz.my/2016/11/17/continental-...tyres-launched/

If you were using CC5, CC6 is not a bad idea.

Bridgestone t005

Smooth tire with no threads is the most silent tire like F1 but in wet weather ......

Softer tire compound also more silent than harder compound tire but it wears out faster ...

The aggressive tread patterns also play part in noise too. The aggressive 90 degree cutting against movement direction also makes more noise but grip is better.

Each brand has series that you can choose to your preferences.

If it's just city drive, CC6 is good enough. I am using CC6. Comfortable and quiet.
Actually if your CC5 do not have micro cracks, it is still usable for low speed city drive.

tried both, overrated. toyo and yokohama perform equal, if not better for me.

ps3 and ps4 not even compare to cc series lah. cc is comfort tyre not uhp

ok

When buying tires

Most important criteria is must have good grip especially in the wet

Durable, quiet, etc.... Are secondary.

Those who buy tyres by looking at durability I will face palm. Unless you are a taxi driver.

You have a fair point actually.

I didn’t reserve a budget for getting new tyres as its a one-time purchase for years to come.

Yes, it may be an overkill to get the Michelin but if its succeeds in providing the best comfort and silence, why not take it? don’t care about longevity shenanigans as long as my criteria prescribed herein is fulfilled.

After all, its for my mum and she deserves the best.

The Michelin Primacy 4 costs RM350.00/tyre while the CC6 costs RM275/tyre… not that big of a difference anyway considering it will get replaced within a 5 year timeframe. (based in KK hence the exorbitant Michelin prices). But thanks for your sensible advice, i went to Tyre Plus yesterday and changed all 4 tyres.. got a free Michelin umbrella too and a discount to RM340.00/tyre..

Im deeply offended by your statement (kidding).

Rattling? old suspension?

This car is in an impeccable condition. I’ve changed the whole suspension parts earlier this year at Proton Flagship 4S Centre in KK here for a very hefty price and idk why Proton centres overcharge.. it rides like new and has never had any rattling sound (ever) and super quiet engine (thanks 4G18P!). Even though the car accrues <500km annual mileage, i still get it serviced at 6 months interval using fully synthetic oil at a Proton service centre, never has this car visited a mechanic outside of Proton since purchase. The paintwork is still shining in its galaxy grey colour as i wax the body every month (highly recommend using the Turtle Wax Ice Paste Wax). Even the mechanics at Proton were eager for me to sell the Waja to them (for whatever reason…) but im like nahhh, not gonna happen!

I’ll gladly sell off my useless 2013 Persona though and keep maintaining the Waja for years to come. The Waja has never caused me and my mum any trouble, always reliable and always dependable. Meanwhile my stupid Persona has had more parts changed than i could actually think of. Terribly built car, rattling noises from the door, the aircond vents, the radio area, overheating engine that Proton still cant figure out (it cant even climb the hills leading up to Kundasang without overheating), squeaky noise on startup (cant tell you how many times Proton changed the belt and the bearings to no avail) etc.

So can you blame me for splurging on very good tyres for the Waja? as an ode to longevity and comfort for years to come?

Well i won’t touch XM2 with a ten foot pole as it’s such a horrible tyre! noisy, little grip, uncomfortable, it offers little difference compared to the Silverstone NS500 that come stock with my Persona. I had changed the XM2 prematurely and went with PS3, never looked back! the silence and comfort and grip it offers are astounding!

Yeah i’ve been reading the forums and XM2 receives a lot of praises… but sadly it doesn’t apply to me…

Continental is more than enuff. Michellin too expensip

Hankook K125

New quiet tyres: wow no noise at all
Mileage clock in after 10,000km: hold my headphones

This post has been edited by Zaryl: Nov 25 2020, 07:13 AM

from fb Toyo Tyre Malaysia
there are pix there. I think there tyres are now made from their factory in china.

i had bought 4 tyres for my car unfortunately both my back tyres were pitted so badly. i made many complains with the tyre shop and Toyo Malaysia but unfortunately never reply. Never will use or recommend anyone this tyre.

Groceries run??? Need comfortable tires?

Grab je la setan

i'm surprised until this stage
still no one suggested linglong tyres/china tyres/thai tyres/indon tyres


good sign

i also had bad experience with their ne3 series that i change together last time with cf1. ne3 already cracked within 2 yrs time but the car rarely driven. complaint to them, they blame me back for seldom drive and park at rooftop

jinyu yu63

True, but can Toyo make a PS4?

15inch only PS3 available.. right

Gua goodyear saja, or dunlop also can.

Grocery getter?
No need to change.
Can wait 2 more years.

Yea, get toyol tyres.

This post has been edited by shirohamada: Nov 25 2020, 08:18 AM

The waja got soundproofing or not?

Between the 3, I'd pick the CC6. I have no experience with Toyo tyres so I can't recommend that in earnest.

Sure, Michelin is the best out of the bunch but aspect ratio 60 is better if you're aiming for all out comfort.

ops 15 not available for ps4

https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/tyres/mich...n-pilot-sport-4

sorry, my cars now all 17inch. so tak tengok dah 15inch punya

Interco Super Swampers

grocery in jungle also no problem

This post has been edited by DukeHyou: Nov 25 2020, 09:04 AM

does it matter? i don't see you using ps4 on all your cars also. or do you?

I do. not the best tyres on earth, but sure better than most.

well its easy to claim anything over the internet. not that i care.
chances are, you're just using gut feeling to tell if the tyre is good.
"i paid more this should be good" syndrome.

i bet if u were given blind test u cant even tell which is which

Id choose cc6.

Unless ur mom speeding or racing, cc6 is really silent tyre.

I have a good experience with cc6 and primacy 4

But ur case id suggest just cc6, save the money


This post has been edited by clockpulses: Nov 25 2020, 04:32 PM

Sure, Toyo Salesman

CC6

michelin primacy 4 st...

Having used CC6, toyo neo 3, Michelin ps3, ecopia ep200 ep300, yoko bluearth, there's some advantage disadvantage to all the tyres.

Currently on CC6, neo3, ep200, ep300 and bluearth.
CC6 have soft sidewall. Not as soft as primacy tho. That's why I didn't go with primacy. Easier to puncture say compared to neo3 or even my prev ps3

Got good experience with ps3, used 2 sets of them. Then I got old and feel I don't F&F like I used to and ps4 is more expensive.

Slow speed good comfort I think CC6 is best. Just that soft sidewall might be more prone to leak.
That toyo proxies c-something was just released to replace neo3. Neo3 harder sidewall to CC6, a bit noisier. I'd get the CC6 until more feedback from the new toyo

Can toyo cf1 last for 110k km? Lol..

as a typical fast driver, i had ample experience with many good tyre without spending fortune.
im not against ps4, it is a good tyre just that the brand was so overrated that even the lousy xm2 was praised high but i think the performance is worth than other tyre

Sorry I do not have experience with toyo but too many saying toyo botak cepat.... Even tyre shop from authorise dealer say so la

i think all silent tyre with soft rubber mmg botak cepat kot

Hahaha.... Where the equation applied but in term of cornering n water planning for toyo? Good?