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post Nov 18 2020, 09:40 PM, updated 5y ago

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convert smartphone into android box?

like,wif complete rf/ir remote control?

if can add few more accesories like usb hub/audio port/rca,hdmi wireless kebod etc even better

izit posibel?

or kenot?

oso,anysmartphone is better than nvidiashield/beelink etc rite?phone oso had dolby dts 7.1 all the codec etc?or not actually?

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post Nov 19 2020, 12:39 AM

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Not all phone can tv out
And now most of phone no IR
External IR no reliable
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post Nov 19 2020, 12:45 AM

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Buy used note 8, connect to tv using samsung dex with usb type c hub that has hdmi and usb 3.0
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post Nov 19 2020, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(subdroid @ Nov 19 2020, 12:45 AM)
Buy used note 8, connect to tv using samsung dex with usb type c hub that has hdmi and usb 3.0
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Then buy wireless mouse+keyboard remote combo connect via the usb 3.0

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post Nov 19 2020, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(subdroid @ Nov 19 2020, 12:46 AM)
Then buy wireless mouse+keyboard remote combo connect via the usb 3.0
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Like this one
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post Nov 19 2020, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(subdroid @ Nov 19 2020, 12:45 AM)
Buy used note 8, connect to tv using samsung dex with usb type c hub that has hdmi and usb 3.0
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watsup wif note10/note9/note11/note20?

kenot ka?

why must note 8?
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post Nov 19 2020, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 19 2020, 06:56 AM)
watsup wif note10/note9/note11/note20?

kenot ka?

why must note 8?
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can if u wan, but those are still expensive one, to use it as android tv box replacement is abit overkill already

but still up to you la, if u rich guy, then go for it

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post Nov 19 2020, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(subdroid @ Nov 19 2020, 09:35 AM)
can if u wan, but those are still expensive one, to use it as android tv box replacement is abit overkill already

but still up to you la, if u rich guy, then go for it

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https://shopee.com.my/🔥Spot🔥Dex-Stati...8777.5842598315

wat u think bout this?

u think it can beam myiptvk on dumb tv?

it even have vga lol
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 19 2020, 10:30 AM)
https://shopee.com.my/🔥Spot🔥Dex-Stati...8777.5842598315

wat u think bout this?

u think it can beam myiptvk on dumb tv?

it even have vga lol
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ya can also, i actually use this one https://shopee.com.my/product/70967762/2398109931, i'm cheapskate guy so always finding the cheapest lol

but seems u rich guy, so yeah go for it
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(subdroid @ Nov 19 2020, 11:02 AM)
ya can also, i actually use this one https://shopee.com.my/product/70967762/2398109931, i'm cheapskate guy so always finding the cheapest lol

but seems u rich guy, so yeah go for it
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after get that

how to.connect wif the remote?
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post Nov 19 2020, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 19 2020, 11:55 AM)
after get that

how to.connect wif the remote?
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Use this one, it has usb dongle like any other wireless 2.4ghz mouse, only this one it combine with mouse and keyboard.

QUOTE(subdroid @ Nov 19 2020, 12:49 AM)
Like this one
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It actually air mouse, u wave around so the cursor follows how u move the mouse, got gyroscope thing i think
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post Nov 19 2020, 12:43 PM

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It has Accelerometer and gyroscope similar in mobile phone, so you move the remote like laser pointer la to make the cursor moves on the screen

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post Nov 28 2020, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 18 2020, 09:40 PM)
convert smartphone into android box?

like,wif complete rf/ir remote control?

if can add few more accesories like usb hub/audio port/rca,hdmi wireless kebod etc even better

izit posibel?

or kenot?

oso,anysmartphone is better than nvidiashield/beelink etc rite?phone oso had dolby dts 7.1 all the codec etc?or not actually?
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Yes you can.. But for the hassle.. You are much better off just selling off your used phone.. Add some more money if it’s less than RM300 and get yourself a proper Android TV box. I would advise you not to waste your time trying to DIY a phone as media player. Phone screens have limited life time and to mirror onto a bigger screen, the phone screen has to be running as well. Also, you’ll have to leave it plugged in all the time. Good luck with all that heat especially when you game for long periods. End up, have to buy this cooler la, that cooler la.. along story short.. you’ve spent more than RM300 and still a poorer performance than a dedicated Android TV box.


TLDR... save time, money, headache and just gets a darn box. Confused where to start? See my sig for real world reviews...

*Buy Note 8 and use DeX? I love DeX but as a full time media player? that’s... mega_shok.gif
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post Nov 28 2020, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2020, 01:14 PM)
still a poorer performance than a dedicated Android TV box.

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walaoweh

u truli insuran seller
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post Nov 28 2020, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 01:16 PM)
walaoweh

u truli insuran seller
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Na fam.. I’m not selling anything.. All my reviews are truly what you see is what you get.. No sugar coating. Goal remains to educate consumers to make best decision. In your case, the best decision is to get a proper box.

Sure you can always chase the rabbit down the other hole. I’d be glad to help you see how much time and money you’ll end up wasting.. smile.gif
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post Nov 28 2020, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2020, 01:20 PM)
Na fam.. I’m not selling anything.. All my reviews are truly what you see is what you get.. No sugar coating. Goal remains to educate consumers to make best decision. In your case, the best decision is to get a proper box.

Sure you can always chase the rabbit down the other hole. I’d be glad to help you see how much time and money you’ll end up wasting..  smile.gif
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gs king x pro cheapest how much
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post Nov 28 2020, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 01:23 PM)
gs king x pro cheapest how much
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You don’t have to get the roughly RM1K (ish) Beelink GS-King X unless you do need those 2x HDD bays and use as NAS. Lesser priced models will do just nicely for streaming, media playback and gaming. Cheapest models I’ve reviewed is the Beelink GT1 Mini 2 (Normal Android OS, custom ATV OS ROMs, dual boot, etc) priced I think 2xx or 3xx.. Alternatively, if you want a decent Google certified ATV OS powered box? The recently reviewed Mecool KM1 Deluxe, priced under RM300.
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post Nov 28 2020, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2020, 01:41 PM)
You don’t have to get the roughly RM1K (ish) Beelink GS-King X unless you do need those 2x HDD bays and use as NAS. Lesser priced models will do just nicely for streaming, media playback and gaming. Cheapest models I’ve reviewed is the Beelink GT1 Mini 2 (Normal Android OS, custom ATV OS ROMs, dual boot, etc) priced I think 2xx or 3xx.. Alternatively, if you want a decent Google certified ATV OS powered box? The recently reviewed Mecool KM1 Deluxe, priced under RM300.
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dunno wat to say

shopee say that beelink is 350

other 1 is,200 all the way up to 400

dunno wat to say

phone as you said,is pain in the ass,but u know wat u gettin,like xiami mi 5s plus,is 5xx,but spec hngghh than tv box,higher memory,faster memori

but tv box ,u get all the I/O out of the box,remote control etc

now im rclxub.gif confused.gif


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post Nov 28 2020, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 01:54 PM)
dunno wat to say

shopee say that beelink is 350

other 1 is,200 all the way up to 400

dunno wat to say

phone as you said,is pain in the ass,but u know wat u gettin,like xiami mi 5s plus,is 5xx,but spec hngghh than tv box,higher memory,faster memori

but tv box ,u get all the I/O out of the box,remote control etc

now im  rclxub.gif  confused.gif
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Deswai I asked you to go check out the reviews. You first see what they can do and if it’s what you want as well.. Meanwhile, you also need to understand that a device built for a particular purpose will almost always outperform a device built for other purposes but being tweaked to do something else.

Here’s a scenario.. You live in area that absolutely requires a 4x4 truck with its special tyres, suspension, ride height etc. Now, instead of just buying a nice truck and just cruise the hazardous road easily.. You went and bought an F1 car confirm super fast, handles like a dream, etc.. then you try to mod it to drive over rough roads.. You tell me, in both cases, which do you think is the better buy for those bad roads.. The truck or a modded F1 car? tongue.gif

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post Nov 28 2020, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2020, 02:00 PM)
Deswai I asked you to go check out the reviews. You first see what they can do and if it’s what you want as well.. Meanwhile, you also need to understand that a device built for a particular purpose will almost always outperform a device built for other purposes but being tweaked to do something else.

Here’s a scenario.. You live in area that absolutely requires a 4x4 truck with its special tyres, suspension, ride height etc. Now, instead of just buying a nice truck and just cruise the hazardous road easily.. You went and bought an F1 car confirm super fast, handles like a dream, etc.. then you try to mod it to drive over rough roads.. You tell me, in both cases, which do you think is the better buy for those bad roads.. The truck or a modded F1 car?  tongue.gif
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thats the problem ,neither side is holy grail,either side had deal breaker feature

i want triton wif veyron speed and tesla accel while being very very cheap cheap,xda ka
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post Nov 28 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 02:05 PM)
thats the problem ,neither side is holy grail,either side had deal breaker feature

i want triton wif veyron speed and tesla accel while being very very cheap cheap,xda ka
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Nah... Media-wise? I fail to see the dealbreaker you speak of.. Ive seen cheap Android TV boxes outperform desktop PCs or laptops over RM3K .. How about you share what exactly you think your phone can do (media playback-wise) and I can tell you if a box can’t do the same ... Plus I’ll share 1 or 3 things a box can do that no phone can do, no matter the cost.. biggrin.gif

Got...it’s called the USS Enterprise NCC-1701.. Let me know when it’s available and cheaper than an F1 car.. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 28 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2020, 02:15 PM)
Nah... Media-wise? I fail to see the dealbreaker you speak of.. Ive seen cheap Android TV boxes outperform desktop PCs or laptops over RM3K .. How about you share what exactly you think your phone can do (media playback-wise) and I can tell you if a box can’t do the same ... Plus I’ll share 1 or 3 things a box can do that no phone can do, no matter the cost..  biggrin.gif

Can.. it’s called the USS Enterprise NCC-1701.. Let me know when it’s available and cheaper than an F1 car..  biggrin.gif
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cpu,i dun care,it not 2011 anymore

i dun belip we have slow cpu anymore,any cpu i tick

but prefer more than 64 gb,only phone gib this

64 gb below 200 x da ka?

but those rca av ,or atleast,hdmi,must got,usb too

those dobly codec etc is just bonus,ada nice xda xpa,but no audio at all kenot lah,no point buyin

remote,both side can be solved,but 1 side oredi out of the box
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post Nov 28 2020, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 02:21 PM)
cpu,i dun care,it not 2011 anymore

i dun belip we have slow cpu anymore,any cpu i tick

but prefer more than 64 gb,only phone gib this

64 gb below 200 x da ka?

but those rca av ,or atleast,hdmi,must got,usb too

those dobly codec etc is just bonus,ada nice xda xpa,but no audio at all kenot lah,no point buyin

remote,both side can be solved,but 1 side oredi out of the box
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You wanted to go the phone route with just RM200 budget? Buddy.. pls lah.. But yeah, there are boxes you can get for under RM200... Feel free to check those out.

Anyways, CPUs do matter. If you watch my video reviews of the Beelink GS-King X with its AMLogic S922X-H SoC VS the Mecool KM1 Deluxe’s AMLogic S905X3 SoC, you can see a clear difference. Media playback and emulator gaming. So of course CPU & GPU matters a lot.

As for wanting more than 64GB storage? Fam, the GS-King X can handle up to 34TB easy... Don’t tell me that’s not enough ... sweat.gif Also, there are....
1. Plug in a USB drive or micro SD card as extra storage.. Use like normal.. OR
2. Plug in a USB drive or micro SD card and use as “Adoptable Storage”. This is where the external drive is converted and merged with the internal drive. Immediately increasing its capacity. Can install apps, games, media etc on it.. Use as a single drive. This means a box with say 32/64GB storage capacity, attach a compatible say 2TB drive and boom.. You have a 2TB+ box d.. So really.. storage isn’t an issue.
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post Nov 28 2020, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2020, 02:38 PM)

2. Plug in a USB drive or micro SD card and use as “Adoptable Storage”. This is where the external drive is converted and merged with the internal drive. Immediately increasing its capacity. Can install apps, games, media etc on it.. Use as a single drive. This means a box with say 32/64GB storage capacity, attach a compatible say 2TB drive and boom.. You have a 2TB+ box d.. So really.. storage isn’t an issue.
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this one,adroid what start suported
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post Dec 2 2020, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 02:42 PM)
this one,adroid what start suported
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Hmm.. That would be most boxes running at least Marshmallow or Android 6 onward. Most boxes today should already be running such....which means they are supported. Example, the Mecool KM1 Deluxe I recently reviewed is already running Android 10. At this point, It is also important to note that even the fastest consumer microsd card still isn't as fast as typical eMMC flash storage. This is because eMMC consists of both flash memory and a flash memory controller integrated on the same silicon die. This is not unlike what Apple's latest M1 has done. Of course they took it to another level. notworthy.gif Thankfully, (and iirc) Google included the feature where when a user adopts a new storage device, a special benchmark is run, comparing the inserted drive's performance against internal storage. If the adopted device is significantly slower than internal storage, you'll be warned about a possibly degraded experience. This benchmark was derived from the actual I/O behavior of popular Android apps. Currently, the AOSP implementation will only warn users beyond a single threshold, but device manufacturers may adapt this further, such as rejecting adoption completely if the card is extremely slow. And they would be right in most cases to do this. Inb4 ppl simply adopt adopt slow storage and later complain about their devices slowing down.

Speaking of device manufacturers and adoptable storage, It is up to the manufacturer to allow or disallow this. For reasons we can imagine. Hypothetically, why pay significantly more for 512GB when 256GB (adoptable storage) will do just fine. 128GB internal memory + 128GB sd card. The obvious answer is "save money" vs "speed & reliability". I tend to go with the latter.
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post Dec 3 2020, 04:20 PM

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yes can be done...

I'm assuming your phone don't have tv out type function, otherwise you won't be asking

you'll need a MIPI DSI to HDMI converter... because phone screen uses the mipi dsi signal...you'll need to tap into this signal and send it to the converter... you also need to tap the audio signal...

obviously this means dismantling and hacking your phone. I got a few spare phones so investigated this... problem is long time ago this DSI to HDMI adapter didn't exist...nowadays is available but I no interest liao... laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2020, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 3 2020, 04:20 PM)
problem is long time ago this DSI to HDMI adapter didn't exist...nowadays is available but I no interest liao... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 3 2020, 06:48 PM)
????
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what you asking?
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post Dec 4 2020, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 4 2020, 08:58 AM)
what you asking?
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y no interest
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 10:03 AM)
y no interest
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I'm a concept/idea/solve problem kinda guy... can't wait for adapter board, so next idea is convert to projector

at the time I already got a few android boxes and projectors... so the project is just for the sake of doing it... so I lost drive & motivation laugh.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:26 AM

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I just mirror my phone to the tv.
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 11:26 AM)
I just mirror my phone to the tv.
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how u mirror dat
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post Dec 4 2020, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 12:21 PM)
how u mirror dat
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I have a cast device plug into the hdmi. Connect the phone with the device, then anything on my screen will be on the tv. So can control everything from my phone, don't need to but keyboard or mouse to control.
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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 01:07 PM)
I have a cast device plug into the hdmi. Connect the phone with the device, then anything on my screen will be on the tv. So can control everything from my phone, don't need to but keyboard or mouse to control.
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cast device plug????

pic?link?
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 02:17 PM)
cast device plug????

pic?link?
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Search miracast or cheap anycast.
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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 02:21 PM)
Search miracast or cheap anycast.
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i think mine device had wifi display

but maybe no support of hdmi kabel/usb,maybe,kena try bru moment of truth

haih,now suddenly sked to ankut fon baru,bcoz dreamin wanna ankat seconfhand 2016 fon,now this plak haih
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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 02:21 PM)
Search miracast or cheap anycast.
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i think mine device had wifi display

but maybe no support of hdmi kabel/usb,maybe,kena try bru moment of truth

haih,now suddenly sked to ankut fon baru,bcoz dreamin wanna ankat seconfhand 2016 fon,now this plak haih
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 02:26 PM)
i think mine device had wifi display

but maybe no support of hdmi kabel/usb,maybe,kena try bru moment of truth

haih,now suddenly sked to ankut fon baru,bcoz dreamin wanna ankat seconfhand 2016 fon,now this plak haih
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Yup wifi display same for mirroring. But I don't understand what you mean by hdmi cable/usb not supported? Is it the TV or the phone did you mean?
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 02:35 PM)
Yup wifi display same for mirroring. But I don't understand what you mean by hdmi cable/usb not supported? Is it the TV or the phone did you mean?
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http://www.mhltech.org/consumer.aspx

just found out bout this mhl bulshit doh.gif
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http://www.mhltech.org/consumer.aspx

just found out bout this mhl bulshit doh.gif
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Oooooo. So you need to make sure your device support MHL or not.
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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 02:55 PM)
Oooooo. So you need to make sure your device support MHL or not.
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tulah,google but no one confirm it

if note 9 sure support,haih

even more pening now,tvbox or fon rclxub.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 03:03 PM

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What phone you planning to use by the way?
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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 03:03 PM)
What phone you planning to use by the way?
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xiami mi 5s plus or huwaei p10 plus or lg v30 or equivalent those league

all secondhand thridhand,duncare

 

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