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voncrane
post Nov 28 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 02:05 PM)
thats the problem ,neither side is holy grail,either side had deal breaker feature

i want triton wif veyron speed and tesla accel while being very very cheap cheap,xda ka
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Nah... Media-wise? I fail to see the dealbreaker you speak of.. Ive seen cheap Android TV boxes outperform desktop PCs or laptops over RM3K .. How about you share what exactly you think your phone can do (media playback-wise) and I can tell you if a box can’t do the same ... Plus I’ll share 1 or 3 things a box can do that no phone can do, no matter the cost.. biggrin.gif

Got...it’s called the USS Enterprise NCC-1701.. Let me know when it’s available and cheaper than an F1 car.. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 28 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2020, 02:15 PM)
Nah... Media-wise? I fail to see the dealbreaker you speak of.. Ive seen cheap Android TV boxes outperform desktop PCs or laptops over RM3K .. How about you share what exactly you think your phone can do (media playback-wise) and I can tell you if a box can’t do the same ... Plus I’ll share 1 or 3 things a box can do that no phone can do, no matter the cost..  biggrin.gif

Can.. it’s called the USS Enterprise NCC-1701.. Let me know when it’s available and cheaper than an F1 car..  biggrin.gif
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cpu,i dun care,it not 2011 anymore

i dun belip we have slow cpu anymore,any cpu i tick

but prefer more than 64 gb,only phone gib this

64 gb below 200 x da ka?

but those rca av ,or atleast,hdmi,must got,usb too

those dobly codec etc is just bonus,ada nice xda xpa,but no audio at all kenot lah,no point buyin

remote,both side can be solved,but 1 side oredi out of the box
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post Nov 28 2020, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 02:21 PM)
cpu,i dun care,it not 2011 anymore

i dun belip we have slow cpu anymore,any cpu i tick

but prefer more than 64 gb,only phone gib this

64 gb below 200 x da ka?

but those rca av ,or atleast,hdmi,must got,usb too

those dobly codec etc is just bonus,ada nice xda xpa,but no audio at all kenot lah,no point buyin

remote,both side can be solved,but 1 side oredi out of the box
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You wanted to go the phone route with just RM200 budget? Buddy.. pls lah.. But yeah, there are boxes you can get for under RM200... Feel free to check those out.

Anyways, CPUs do matter. If you watch my video reviews of the Beelink GS-King X with its AMLogic S922X-H SoC VS the Mecool KM1 Deluxe’s AMLogic S905X3 SoC, you can see a clear difference. Media playback and emulator gaming. So of course CPU & GPU matters a lot.

As for wanting more than 64GB storage? Fam, the GS-King X can handle up to 34TB easy... Don’t tell me that’s not enough ... sweat.gif Also, there are....
1. Plug in a USB drive or micro SD card as extra storage.. Use like normal.. OR
2. Plug in a USB drive or micro SD card and use as “Adoptable Storage”. This is where the external drive is converted and merged with the internal drive. Immediately increasing its capacity. Can install apps, games, media etc on it.. Use as a single drive. This means a box with say 32/64GB storage capacity, attach a compatible say 2TB drive and boom.. You have a 2TB+ box d.. So really.. storage isn’t an issue.
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post Nov 28 2020, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2020, 02:38 PM)

2. Plug in a USB drive or micro SD card and use as “Adoptable Storage”. This is where the external drive is converted and merged with the internal drive. Immediately increasing its capacity. Can install apps, games, media etc on it.. Use as a single drive. This means a box with say 32/64GB storage capacity, attach a compatible say 2TB drive and boom.. You have a 2TB+ box d.. So really.. storage isn’t an issue.
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this one,adroid what start suported
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post Dec 2 2020, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Nov 28 2020, 02:42 PM)
this one,adroid what start suported
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Hmm.. That would be most boxes running at least Marshmallow or Android 6 onward. Most boxes today should already be running such....which means they are supported. Example, the Mecool KM1 Deluxe I recently reviewed is already running Android 10. At this point, It is also important to note that even the fastest consumer microsd card still isn't as fast as typical eMMC flash storage. This is because eMMC consists of both flash memory and a flash memory controller integrated on the same silicon die. This is not unlike what Apple's latest M1 has done. Of course they took it to another level. notworthy.gif Thankfully, (and iirc) Google included the feature where when a user adopts a new storage device, a special benchmark is run, comparing the inserted drive's performance against internal storage. If the adopted device is significantly slower than internal storage, you'll be warned about a possibly degraded experience. This benchmark was derived from the actual I/O behavior of popular Android apps. Currently, the AOSP implementation will only warn users beyond a single threshold, but device manufacturers may adapt this further, such as rejecting adoption completely if the card is extremely slow. And they would be right in most cases to do this. Inb4 ppl simply adopt adopt slow storage and later complain about their devices slowing down.

Speaking of device manufacturers and adoptable storage, It is up to the manufacturer to allow or disallow this. For reasons we can imagine. Hypothetically, why pay significantly more for 512GB when 256GB (adoptable storage) will do just fine. 128GB internal memory + 128GB sd card. The obvious answer is "save money" vs "speed & reliability". I tend to go with the latter.
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post Dec 3 2020, 04:20 PM

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yes can be done...

I'm assuming your phone don't have tv out type function, otherwise you won't be asking

you'll need a MIPI DSI to HDMI converter... because phone screen uses the mipi dsi signal...you'll need to tap into this signal and send it to the converter... you also need to tap the audio signal...

obviously this means dismantling and hacking your phone. I got a few spare phones so investigated this... problem is long time ago this DSI to HDMI adapter didn't exist...nowadays is available but I no interest liao... laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2020, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 3 2020, 04:20 PM)
problem is long time ago this DSI to HDMI adapter didn't exist...nowadays is available but I no interest liao... laugh.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 3 2020, 06:48 PM)
????
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what you asking?
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post Dec 4 2020, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 4 2020, 08:58 AM)
what you asking?
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y no interest
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 10:03 AM)
y no interest
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I'm a concept/idea/solve problem kinda guy... can't wait for adapter board, so next idea is convert to projector

at the time I already got a few android boxes and projectors... so the project is just for the sake of doing it... so I lost drive & motivation laugh.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:26 AM

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I just mirror my phone to the tv.
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 11:26 AM)
I just mirror my phone to the tv.
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how u mirror dat
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post Dec 4 2020, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 12:21 PM)
how u mirror dat
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I have a cast device plug into the hdmi. Connect the phone with the device, then anything on my screen will be on the tv. So can control everything from my phone, don't need to but keyboard or mouse to control.
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 01:07 PM)
I have a cast device plug into the hdmi. Connect the phone with the device, then anything on my screen will be on the tv. So can control everything from my phone, don't need to but keyboard or mouse to control.
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cast device plug????

pic?link?
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 02:17 PM)
cast device plug????

pic?link?
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Search miracast or cheap anycast.
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 02:21 PM)
Search miracast or cheap anycast.
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i think mine device had wifi display

but maybe no support of hdmi kabel/usb,maybe,kena try bru moment of truth

haih,now suddenly sked to ankut fon baru,bcoz dreamin wanna ankat seconfhand 2016 fon,now this plak haih
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 02:21 PM)
Search miracast or cheap anycast.
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i think mine device had wifi display

but maybe no support of hdmi kabel/usb,maybe,kena try bru moment of truth

haih,now suddenly sked to ankut fon baru,bcoz dreamin wanna ankat seconfhand 2016 fon,now this plak haih
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 02:26 PM)
i think mine device had wifi display

but maybe no support of hdmi kabel/usb,maybe,kena try bru moment of truth

haih,now suddenly sked to ankut fon baru,bcoz dreamin wanna ankat seconfhand 2016 fon,now this plak haih
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Yup wifi display same for mirroring. But I don't understand what you mean by hdmi cable/usb not supported? Is it the TV or the phone did you mean?
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Dec 4 2020, 02:35 PM)
Yup wifi display same for mirroring. But I don't understand what you mean by hdmi cable/usb not supported? Is it the TV or the phone did you mean?
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http://www.mhltech.org/consumer.aspx

just found out bout this mhl bulshit doh.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Dec 4 2020, 02:42 PM)
http://www.mhltech.org/consumer.aspx

just found out bout this mhl bulshit doh.gif
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Oooooo. So you need to make sure your device support MHL or not.

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