I want to work and study locally, since i saw UTAR fees quite cheap and will help with my financial situation, but idk if the degree is recognised or is it worth 5 years of my life to study
I need some professional advice so i wont choose the wrong path......
My dream of going into forensic science has been foiled becuz well, I've seen the comments on this website, so yea it sucks to be a student without a clear path....
(I want to specialise in radiology btw)

Any recommendations are open so it can guide me better

When it comes to medicine, I always believe university doesn't matter.

Most important is your own determination and ability to succeed. Yes, you can pass and graduate, but you need to have the toughness to complete housemanship and be prepared for long posting wait-times.

So yeah, if you want to compare UTAR or whatever universities. I would suggest go for the cheapest option when it comes to medicine. When patient go to private hospitals, nobody bothers to ask to see specific doctor from [insert whatever uni] anyways.

When you study any degree course, most important is the govt recognition of the study. As for utar, I think it is, but do check the govt web.

If you are not sure of what is required or what lies ahead, try talking to someone qualified relating to your interest as I believe, he is the right person to advise you.

Hopefully the right person can answer you here.



This post has been edited by mini orchard: Nov 6 2020, 11:31 PM

oh..didnt know UTAR has MBBS...

Well now you know

I see Russian grad I scared. Even Indian also a bit scared. I think Malaysian uni grad better then them

No degree is useless, all come down to u.

Same here. 👋. As long as it is recognized by mohe then should be alright.

U missed out Indonesian grads.
And yes. Malaysian uni grad is better then the above.

As a medical practitioner myself, I don’t think we should judge an specific university (or country per se) just cause of a few rotten apples. However if TS were to choose a local uni, you’ll definitely adapt better to the local hospitals you will be working for during housemanship. Adaptations towards working SOPs, terminologies, working culture will be crucial. However, studying overseas does have its perks. Better exposure, a “different” perspective to medicine. Hey, it’s a once in a lifetime thing amirite?

Also TS, are you sure you want to be a doctor considering the fact that you won’t be granted a permanent position? You will be hired on a contract basis only. A contract termination by the MOH, looming.

This post has been edited by drumstix: Nov 7 2020, 08:16 PM

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This post has been edited by kurangak: Nov 7 2020, 08:22 PM

I know should not categorize by country. Just that last time read news say they got money got pass. Plus they study in mother Russian language.
I guess at the end those still practicing would have passed their housemanship which means should be good enough.

grad from Moscow, Egypt, Indon. Yea, shud ne abit sceptical. Even from India is better.

that's not true
i know many people who look at a doctors' degree before seeing them
thats why doctors always state their degrees on their name plaque, outside clinics etc

Is not only for medicine but other courses too ... many students wanting to enter UM/UKM as 1st choice if the course is available instead of others

1. Academic qualification

If you are a 3.8-4 STPM student then by all means go ahead. If you are an average student (like me), don't even bother.

Let me give you some stats in IMU

Every year, fresh intakes of medicine students are around 300

At the end, only 50 or so students graduate


2. Motive

I wonder if you are really suited for doing medicine when you said you wanna take Radiology, a specialization that have little patient interaction

Don't need to lie, I have a friend doing medicine and his main objective for radio is the good pay and isolation

If you want job security, forget it, medical grads are saturated as fuck right now

Other than local unis, you still need to compete with private (IMU, MAHSA, UTAR, PERDANA and even some subpar university that I never heard before is offering medical degree nowadays) and foreign uni grads (Russia, India, Indonesia)

Even if you get your housemanship, its contract based, and after 2 years, they will evaluate whether to take you in as permanent staff or not, from what I heard, its difficult because turnover rates are low

Radiology is a specialization, you need to be selected to join a masters programme in local uni (private does not count). Again, you need to compete again for specialization.


3. Financial

I am not sure about UTAR, but a 5 years medicine course in IMU cost right now 500k myr.

Perdana is around half of it at 250k.

These are still extraorbitant amount.

If you are thinking of taking PTPTN, max I think was 60%, leading to around 150k loan, you still need to fork out around 100k for the fees

Now on the 150k loan

There is a 1% FLAT RATE per annum based on your original loan meaning that if you split over 15 years of payment, you need to fork out 22k of interest

And you need to repay close to 1000 per month for 15 years to clear your debt

For housemanship, you get paid around 4k, after paying your ptptn loan monthly you are left with 3k a month

Source : https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2019/12/27...-below-juniors/

3K A MONTH FOR ALL THAT SHIT YOU GO THROUGH

TOPKEK

Conclusion: Medicine is a shit degree, it WAS good years ago, same as pharmacy

Today era, if you want to earn money, computer science is the way to go

Fresh grad programmer = 7k basic pay

Disclaimer: I am not a medical grad, but these are what I observed and having doctors as friends. If actual doctors can correct me, I would be happy.

Not worth it. Difficult to specialize as specialty only recognized by kkm. Now so many doctors quit selling insurance and health produxt

Tbh im not a computer guy, ive been thinking of taking up a job as a researcher what's your view on that.

If you have the 'PI' genes in you and enjoy seeing what is below the surface.