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abc2005
post Nov 7 2020, 07:11 PM

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Pointless. Just subscribe to UNIFI since all home fibre plans in all major telcos (Maxis, Celcom, Digi etc) all rely on TM facilities.

Only TIME Broadband is unique in its own way but then again, TM monopoly means that TIME cannot expand its facilities to wider public.
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post Nov 7 2020, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Nov 7 2020, 08:19 PM)
That is why there are ISPs who are unwilling to join TM's HSBB until today such as TIME to expand their coverage. They have less control over their pricing plans due to TM's wholesale arrangements, depend on TM to provide enough ports for customers and subjected to TM's routing at least for the first 2 hops before reaching their own network.

They rather place their hope on 5G wireless to skip TM's last mile but build their own fibre backhaul directly to base stations. The interests for fixed wireless and 5G is now catching up in many developed countries where fibre infra is already widely deployed like Japan.

Ask why so, many Japanese people say it's hassle free, no need to wait for troublesome installation appointments, wiring and drilling. Just either collect their modems from the customer centers or couriered directly to them. Just turn on the modem and do some minor configuration and already up online.
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For those telcos and ISPs unwilling to join the TM HSBB plan, they acted in silos instead of working together to compete against TM infrastructure monopoly.
Imagine if Digi, Maxis, Yes Mobile and the likes (excluding Celcom since it's owned by TM) coming together to form a single private consortium to setup their own fibre bases and backbones similar to TIME.

The 5G coverage is remained to be seen. Also, that can easily span at least a few more years before the 5G execution can take place.

Till then, our best bet is still the fibre broadband with most stable connection.


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post Nov 8 2020, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Nov 8 2020, 12:56 AM)
That is the reason of TNB Allo emergence. TIME weren't keen to do landed as well.
It'll be too costly to build the last mile all for yourself when you're already a major mobile network other than expanding your backhaul networks to fiberised base stations.

Maxis does serve a very limited landed housing areas, such as Sierramas and BU. Also they do wire up commercial buildings and apartments/condos with their own fibre infra just like Time. Just that they need to allocate their investment for upcoming 5G network buildouts.

Celcom has its East Malaysia fibre network buildout called Celcom Timur.

If 5G is coming in just a few years why bother building the last mile overlapping with matured players such as TM, Time or TNB Allo. Instead save it for 5G instead while try to make arrangements with as many wholesale last mile providers outside TM such as TNB Allo, Celcom Timur and SOFIA Sarawak.

Currently I think the home FTTH market in many developed countries such as Japan, Singapore and Europe already saturating. That's why they can afford to look at building 5G but Malaysia's fibre coverage is still not as expansive as them.
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Actually 5G and fibre broadband investments don't clash with each other. Both of them cater for different array of consumers.
For example, are we going to use 5G as the corporate office backbone network where thousands are connecting to the same network concurrently?
Are we going to expect 5G to cover the connectivity that needs extremely low latency like the banking network system or online gaming?
5G experiments of data rates varies greatly across different countries.

5G afaik is a much better version of WIFI than current 4G with much wider coverage. And that is all to it. Also, the adoption will mean that new equipment like new phones or devices are needed to connect to 5G network.

The ISP that solely relies on 3/4/5G alone are doomed to saturate themselves with smaller and smaller pie for themselves.

Personally I prefer the fixed-line fibre broadband for stability and always-on connectivity.
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post Nov 8 2020, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Nov 8 2020, 01:35 AM)
Our telcos are already building their fibre networks quietly in preparation for fiberization of 5G/4G LTE-A base stations since late 2018 just that they don't want to complete the stretch to homes and premises.

Maxis for example has been planting fibre all over major cities across Malaysia like this:

https://malaysiafiber.blogspot.com/2019/04/...-broadband.html

https://malaysiafiber.blogspot.com/2019/04/...-broadband.html

Banks and large corporations can subscribe DIA(direct internet leased circuits) if they can afford it.
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Yes that's why I mentioned earlier they acted in silos. The fiberisation efforts are minimal and limited in scope as compared to our wide area of land mass and population.
That's the reason they still receive complaints after complaints from home fibre broadband customers because these telcos still rely on TM infrastructure.

And that's more of the justification to form a consortium among themselves to compete against TM together with TIME and TNB Allo.

 

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