Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Presario & Pavilion notebooks, NOT ADVISABLES to downgraden from Vista

views
     
TSJoshua_0718
post Aug 16 2007, 12:35 AM, updated 19y ago

**Keep Walking 不停地走**
*******
Senior Member
8,913 posts

Joined: Mar 2005
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/generic...R1002_USEN#N285

Quite useful information. Just to share with you guys.

Would advice you guys use the link to go to the original source.
Copy paste text is will certainly make you guys confuse

QUOTE
This document pertains to HP Pavilion and Compaq Presario Notebook PCs that shipped with Windows Vista.
This document does not apply to Commercial Notebook and Desktop PCs. Select business notebook models; including the 2510p, 2710p, 6910p, 8510p, 8710p, 6510b 6515b, 6710b, and 6715b as well as other models, will support Windows XP.

Issues you will experience if you downgrade from Vista to XP
If you have an HP Pavilion or Compaq Presario consumer notebook PC that shipped with Windows Vista, you should not attempt to downgrade to Windows XP. Changing the operating system will cause severe operational problems. Many of the components, such as sound, video, graphics, network connectivity, drives, or other devices and peripherals, may have limited functionality, or may not work at all. You should do some research on the support policies of hardware and software manufacturers, and review the problems experienced by other users, before you consider changing the operating system.

You may experience the following conditions if you downgrade an HP Pavilion or Compaq Presario consumer notebook, which was designed for Vista, to an older operating system:

    *
      HP does not provide Windows XP compatible drivers for functions such as sound, video, graphics, network connectivity, drives, or other devices and peripherals for these consumer notebooks.
    *
      Changing the operating system voids your warranty until such time as you restore Windows Vista to your machine. Before providing phone or online support, or performing hardware services, HP technical support will require you to reinstall the version of the Windows operating system that shipped with your computer.
    *
      Some component manufacturers do not provide Windows XP compatible drivers for components that they designed for Windows Vista.
    *
      Even if a third-party company or Windows itself can provide generic drivers that will allow all your devices to operate, the performance of your HP PC may be less than optimal.

If you decide to downgrade your PC from Vista to XP, in spite of the known hardware and software problems, or if you have already tried to make the change and your PC does not work properly, read the other sections of this document. There is also a section that discusses the consequences of setting up a dual-boot system.

Things to do before you make any changes to your PC
If you have decided to downgrade from Vista to XP, or make any other OS changes, in spite of the known hardware and software problems, you may find the following recommendations useful.

    *
      Create a Windows Vista Recovery DVD. You were prompted to create the recovery DVD the first time you started your Vista PC. If you have created this set of discs, and then encounter problems after changing your OS, you can use the Recovery discs to reinstalling Windows Vista with all the required hardware drivers to restore your PC to its original condition.
      If you have not yet created the set of Recovery discs, please get at least two (2) DVD-R discs and do it now. With these Vista Recovery discs, you will be able to return your PC to a stable base state, just in case things don't go as planned. To create the Recovery discs, re-start the PC, and press F11 to launch the HP Backup and Recovery Manager. You may make one (1) set of Recovery discs. For more information, see HP Notebook PCs - Using HP Recovery Manager below.
      If you cannot locate your Recovery disk, or the attempt to create the Recovery discs failed, contact HP to purchase a replacement Vista Recovery disc.
    *
      Research XP drivers. Check the list of devices are on your computer, and go to the manufacturers' web sites for information on what drivers they provide for their devices. Please be aware that some components work together, and if drivers for one component are not available than the other devices may function poorly, or not at all.

Things to do if you changed the OS and your PC is not working properly

If you have already downgraded your computer from Vista to Windows XP, you have probably discovered that your PC does not work properly. You may have noticed that features like sound or DVD or webcam on your new PC have stopped working, and you are wondering where you can find the right XP drivers. HP does NOT provide XP compatible drivers for PC that were designed exclusively for Vista. If your PC shipped with Vista, HP will support the installed hardware and software, according to the written agreements, while the PC is operating with the Vista operating system.
NOTE:  You may attempt to use non-Vista drivers and programs provided by other companies, but HP cannot provide technical support or diagnose potential hardware issue until you reinstall the original Vista operating system.
To resolve your hardware and software problems, you MUST reinstall the Vista operating system that was installed on your PC as follows:

    *
      If you created your Windows Vista HP Recovery DVDs while you were still operating with Vista, insert the Recovery disc and restart the PC to restore your system to Vista. For details, see HP Notebook PCs -- Using HP Recovery Manager .
    *
      If you did not create your HP Recovery DVDs before downgrading your computer to Windows XP, you will need to order a Recovery disc set from HP directly. For details, see HP Notebook PCs - Obtaining a Recovery CD or DVD set .

Things to do if you upgraded from Windows XP to Vista and want to return to XP

If you purchased a Vista capable HP notebook PC that shipped with Windows XP, and you upgraded it to Vista, you can reinstall XP, provided that you reinstall all the XP compatible drivers.
NOTE:  In all cases, the BIOS and the hardware drivers must be designed as compatible with the operating system. Specifically, XP drivers will not work with the Vista OS, and Vista drivers will not work with the XP OS.
To resolve your hardware and software problems, you may reinstall the XP operating system that was installed on your PC as follows:

    *
      If you created your Windows XP HP Recovery discs while you were still operating with XP, insert the first disc and restart the PC to restore your system to XP.
    *
      If you did not create your HP Recovery discs while you were running Windows XP, you will need to order an XP Recovery disc set from HP directly. For details see HP Notebook PCs - Obtaining a Recovery CD or DVD set .
    *
      After the PC is returned to its original configuration, go to the Software and Driver Downloads web page on the HP web site and install any updated XP drivers. Be sure to install the latest BIOS listed on the XP pages and do not install any Vista drivers.

Reasons not to try a dual-boot system

While documentation on how to use dual-booting may be available on the web, HP does not support computers that have been set up in a dual-boot configuration. The dual-boot requires hardware drivers for both operating systems, and HP does not provide drivers for components that were not designed for the specific operating system. Such a configuration change is a violation of your warranty.
Additionally, even if you could find some generic third-party drivers that would allow you to setup a dual-boot configuration on your notebook, you should consider the size of your hard drive. Each operating system takes up a considerable amount of space on the hard drive. Installing both XP and Vista may limit the amount of space you have for other applications, which will degrade performance.
This post has been edited by Joshua_0718: Aug 16 2007, 12:44 AM
t3chn0m4nc3r
post Aug 16 2007, 10:19 AM

Teh Necron Lord
*******
Senior Member
4,139 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Internet


already done all tat... I manually searched the drivers not from hP.... working great so far... responce way faster than Vista... it's juz a statement to encourage ppl to use Vista... shakehead.gif
HaHaNoCluE
post Aug 16 2007, 01:09 PM

Newbie
****
Senior Member
628 posts

Joined: Oct 2006


had problem with v3202tu compaq v3000 centrino duo... i just can't find the right audio driver... end up, back to ori vista... bloody hell, ther r really a lot of things can't be use on vista... not even the fuji xerox A525 colour laser ca work properly... y can't these laptop manufacturer just list out the hardwares since if they don't provide the xp drivers, we'll find it ourself easily with known hardwares as reference...

i've help a few frens downgrading their desktop (acer n hp) from vista to xp, reasons, they have tons of hardwares that r not compatible with vista... it's really pain in the ass when this manufacturer don't provide xp compatible drivers... microsoft pay them to sell their pc with vista or what??? plain stupid...
omara86
post Aug 16 2007, 01:32 PM

0mg nicotine juice
*****
Senior Member
707 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Island of Borneo
i faced same problem before with my lil sis's Presario V3165AU... hav to download all drivers manually (not from HP) but after getting all that~ it works... ha ha ha~

shouldnt be any prob because the hardwares r not manufactured by HP@Compaq so can download it from manufacturer website. and manufacturers of course want lots of income, if the hardware is only made for vista... how many ppl still using HP... and they'll also receive lots of complains...


Skylinestar
post Aug 16 2007, 05:36 PM

Mega Duck
********
All Stars
10,479 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Sarawak
my friend bought a compaq presario notebook. the demo model in the shop uses XP, with all the drivers.
since my friend's notebook doesn't comes with windows, so it doesn't comes with drivers too. the shop tell me to download the drivers from hp website.

after searching....only vista drivers available. xp drivers not complete. so...end up installing vista os.
so we complain to the shop about the xp drivers. the shop ask us to go to the shop to claim a burned driver cd.

where did the shop get the xp driver from?
TSJoshua_0718
post Aug 16 2007, 06:03 PM

**Keep Walking 不停地走**
*******
Senior Member
8,913 posts

Joined: Mar 2005
QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 16 2007, 05:36 PM)
my friend bought a compaq presario notebook. the demo model in the shop uses XP, with all the drivers.
since my friend's notebook doesn't comes with windows, so it doesn't comes with drivers too. the shop tell me to download the drivers from hp website.

after searching....only vista drivers available. xp drivers not complete. so...end up installing vista os.
so we complain to the shop about the xp drivers. the shop ask us to go to the shop to claim a burned driver cd.

where did the shop get the xp driver from?
*
Old driver?
linkinstreet
post Aug 16 2007, 07:05 PM

Red Bull Addict
Group Icon
Moderator
9,277 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: KL. Best place in Malaysia. Nuff said

QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Aug 16 2007, 01:09 PM)
had problem with v3202tu compaq v3000 centrino duo... i just can't find the right audio driver... end up, back to ori vista... bloody hell, ther r really a lot of things can't be use on vista... not even the fuji xerox A525 colour laser ca work properly... y can't these laptop manufacturer just list out the hardwares since if they don't provide the xp drivers, we'll find it ourself easily with known hardwares as reference...

i've help a few frens downgrading their desktop (acer n hp) from vista to xp, reasons, they have tons of hardwares that r not compatible with vista... it's really pain in the ass when this manufacturer don't provide xp compatible drivers... microsoft pay them to sell their pc with vista or what??? plain stupid...
*
1 - Blame the manufacturers wanting to sell you new hardware, not microsoft. My 2 months old Canon printer won't work on Vista and when I called Canon, they said they wont be making any new drivers for that canon. Solution, buy a new one. I CAN'T EVEN TRADE IN MY OLD PRINTER! This happened during ME --> XP days too. f***ing retards usually use this oppurtunity to get some more quick bucks
2 - It's up to the management to bundle the PC with the OS they want. usually they will ALWAYS bundle with the latest OS. I remembered my fren downgrading to WIN98 when XP first come out and then got stuck when some NTFS drives was not detected. Those were the days
SUSDavid83
post Aug 16 2007, 08:45 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
52,874 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
I think some of the Dell users are facing difficulty on downgrading Vista to XP too. Guess the similar situation as described in this thread might happen.
TSJoshua_0718
post Aug 16 2007, 08:49 PM

**Keep Walking 不停地走**
*******
Senior Member
8,913 posts

Joined: Mar 2005
They, the manufacturer, should keep update the driver with the latest OS.

What the point of having their IT department then?

Yes, it is true, just want to earn more.
SUSDavid83
post Aug 16 2007, 08:52 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
52,874 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Developing drivers take many resources and it shouldn't be the case. Disappointed of OEM manufacturers that couldn't create downward OS compatibility.
t3chn0m4nc3r
post Aug 17 2007, 12:06 AM

Teh Necron Lord
*******
Senior Member
4,139 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Internet


QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Aug 16 2007, 02:09 PM)
had problem with v3202tu compaq v3000 centrino duo... i just can't find the right audio driver... end up, back to ori vista... bloody hell, ther r really a lot of things can't be use on vista... not even the fuji xerox A525 colour laser ca work properly... y can't these laptop manufacturer just list out the hardwares since if they don't provide the xp drivers, we'll find it ourself easily with known hardwares as reference...

i've help a few frens downgrading their desktop (acer n hp) from vista to xp, reasons, they have tons of hardwares that r not compatible with vista... it's really pain in the ass when this manufacturer don't provide xp compatible drivers... microsoft pay them to sell their pc with vista or what??? plain stupid...
*
use unknown device identifier... then find the OEM chip model n number... then u can find the drivers easily... thumbup.gif
miQbals
post Aug 18 2007, 02:29 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
186 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Meru, Menara Tan & Tan, Taman Universiti, UTM



QUOTE
had problem with v3202tu compaq v3000 centrino duo...


I might have some modified sound driver for winxp. You wanna try it ? Send me ur email...

Coz I'm using 4 my V3203TU and it works just fine... : )

Until now, I've already formatted & reinstalled 4-5 laptops from vista to winxp ori and it works just fine.

Only the last model V35xx something, the Q-play button and mouse's scroll not function. Else, should be OK.

This post has been edited by miQbals: Aug 18 2007, 02:33 AM
t3chn0m4nc3r
post Aug 19 2007, 12:43 AM

Teh Necron Lord
*******
Senior Member
4,139 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Internet


QUOTE(miQbals @ Aug 18 2007, 03:29 AM)
I might have some modified sound driver for winxp. You wanna try it ? Send me ur email...

Coz I'm using 4 my V3203TU and it works just fine... : )

Until now, I've already formatted & reinstalled 4-5 laptops from vista to winxp ori and it works just fine.

Only the last model V35xx something, the Q-play button and mouse's scroll not function. Else, should be OK.
*
find V3 series notebook tat used to come wif XP at almost same spec... then u will be able to find it...
*i notice most compaq notebooks use connexant and ADI soundmax sound chip... sweat.gif
hui_ping
post Aug 19 2007, 01:38 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
326 posts

Joined: Dec 2004
From: Home Town



Just helped a course mate downgrade her compaq v3000 turion x2 from vista to xp. Really hard to find the drivers, there are still some devices on her notebook that I can't find their drivers.
SUSDavid83
post Aug 19 2007, 10:28 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
52,874 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
This could be a way to accelerate Vista adoption in the consumer market.

Giant company usually partners with other giants to accelerate product adoptation in order to gain market share.
vearn27
post Aug 22 2007, 08:47 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




Anyone care to share out where to get the Ethernet Controller and Modem driver for V3514TU for Windows XP? sweat.gif
farysa90
post Aug 25 2007, 03:31 AM

Extravaganza Holla
*****
Senior Member
772 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


Driver problem, dont like it much
tachlio
post Aug 25 2007, 11:15 AM

de~sign "ing"
*******
Senior Member
3,102 posts

Joined: May 2005
From: Penang *̡͌l̡*̡̡
i have order 2 preserio labtop for my frd~~(only DOS)

as i ask the help support the say i can download XP driver using other model d driver

the do show me how to do~~

if ur guy wanan try do call the HP help support i think it should still have the compatible driver~
philipcs
post Aug 26 2007, 11:55 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,581 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
hallo... i just downgraded from vista to XP Pro for my V3204TU.

I already using it for 5 days and no performance issue at all.

Let me list down what and where to get all the drivers for XP.

(I have performed the manual search for individual hardware from Google, therefore dont ask me where to download the driver for other model, google is your best friend)

Audio, modem, Synaptics TouchPad, HP Quick Launch Button & HP Wireless Assistant can get from: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwar...3331697&lang=en

Intel Mobile 945GM Express Chipset Video Driver - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Fi...D=2301&lang=eng

Intel Pro/100 VE Network Connection driver - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Fi...ID=407&lang=eng

Intel(R) PRO/Wireless Driver - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Des...=13000&lang=eng

Ricoh 6-in-1 CardReader - http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/generic...=reg_R1002_USEN

Blouetooth - http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechS...-37053-1&mode=3 or http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechS...93&mode=4&idx=1

SM Bus Controller - Intel INF Update http://downloadcenter.intel.com/download.a...ystems&lang=eng

hope this helps
jimmy.soo
post Sep 11 2007, 01:34 AM

Happy Go Lucky
******
Senior Member
1,050 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: KL


errrrr how bout model V3509TU?


Added on September 11, 2007, 11:58 pmeven booting the winxp pro sp2 cd also facing problems sad.gif

This post has been edited by jimmy.soo: Sep 11 2007, 11:58 PM
h2_studio
post Sep 29 2007, 04:35 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
4 posts

Joined: Sep 2007


my laptop is HP Pavilion dv6124XT. i tried to format it but windows setup cannot detect the hard disk.

can anyone help me?
t3chn0m4nc3r
post Sep 29 2007, 05:44 PM

Teh Necron Lord
*******
Senior Member
4,139 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Internet


QUOTE(hui_ping @ Aug 19 2007, 02:38 AM)
Just helped a course mate downgrade her compaq v3000 turion x2 from vista to xp. Really hard to find the drivers, there are still some devices on her notebook that I can't find their drivers.
*
some of the unknown device are quick launch buttons, and other HP trademark craps... not really useful...

QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 19 2007, 11:28 AM)
This could be a way to accelerate Vista adoption in the consumer market.

Giant company usually partners with other giants to accelerate product adoptation in order to gain market share.
*
agreed... but u know wat... Vista ain't cornering US juz yet... brows.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 22 2007, 09:47 PM)
Anyone care to share out where to get the Ethernet Controller and Modem driver for V3514TU for Windows XP? sweat.gif
*
try Unknow Device Identifier... juz search in google... find out the chip and the chip number and search in google... hmm.gif

QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Sep 11 2007, 02:34 AM)
errrrr how bout model V3509TU?


Added on September 11, 2007, 11:58 pmeven booting the winxp pro sp2 cd also facing problems sad.gif
*
all TU are same base... same Intel 945GM chipset... diff juz the RAM, HDD, proc speed and ODD... others are same... sweat.gif

QUOTE(h2_studio @ Sep 29 2007, 05:35 PM)
my laptop is HP Pavilion dv6124XT. i tried to format it but windows setup cannot detect the hard disk.

can anyone help me?
*
press F10 fast fast when u on ur lappy... go find "SATA native support" and disable it... then restart and boot from CD... or u can download Intel AHCI driver and put it in USB floppy drive then when loading windows setup, juz press F6 to load the driver... smile.gif


Added on September 29, 2007, 5:47 pmu guys can also download Intel drivers from Intel website...

and non-centrino V3000 series laptop usually use Broadcom WiFi... which can be found in HP website or other open drivers site... icon_rolleyes.gif

still can't get it then can come send to my shop and i do everything for u... not for free of course... laugh.gif

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Sep 29 2007, 05:47 PM
nik0ns
post Sep 29 2007, 08:40 PM

Ingenium
******
Senior Member
1,302 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Long Murum, Sarawak


i call compaq once to ask regarding the xp issue...they say that the notebook does not support xp, only vista..
omara86
post Sep 29 2007, 09:40 PM

0mg nicotine juice
*****
Senior Member
707 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Island of Borneo
of course the help centre will tell that the specified model of laptop dont support XP coz they dont provide the solution. but we still can find those drivers from manufacturer site...

1 more thing is most of their products come with vista basic coz its cheaper than XP pro.. ha ha ha~ uploading additional driver for OS that they dont provide will waste their hosting storage~ they hav to pay more for larger hosting spaces
Ryo
post Sep 29 2007, 11:18 PM

.:: Rise Lord Vader ::.
*****
Senior Member
871 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: A Galaxy Far Far Away...


QUOTE
i call compaq once to ask regarding the xp issue...they say that the notebook does not support xp, only vista..


there's is no such thing i guess, old drivers can be found if you know where to look. that's just a lazy answer IMO, u know la customer services. just comes out with the quickest way/answer to get rid of the caller rclxub.gif
nik0ns
post Sep 30 2007, 02:01 AM

Ingenium
******
Senior Member
1,302 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Long Murum, Sarawak


it is not driver...cant even install xp
omara86
post Sep 30 2007, 04:13 PM

0mg nicotine juice
*****
Senior Member
707 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Island of Borneo
QUOTE(nik0ns @ Sep 30 2007, 02:01 AM)
it is not driver...cant even install xp
*
cant understand ur statement... it's hanging~
kazalan_kamitake
post Oct 1 2007, 08:44 AM

This Star Nothing For Me
******
Senior Member
1,114 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: C.S.W Kembang



QUOTE(nik0ns @ Sep 29 2007, 08:40 PM)
i call compaq once to ask regarding the xp issue...they say that the notebook does not support xp, only vista..
*
Yes now the new laptop must use the vista as OS...cannot support the XP..but if you want use the XP..i think can but need find the driver first lar..like acer can use the XP..
t3chn0m4nc3r
post Oct 3 2007, 06:55 PM

Teh Necron Lord
*******
Senior Member
4,139 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Internet


ok... found out recently tat newer laptop models wif built in Intel X3100 (965G chipset) don have any option to disable the AHCI mode... so normal XP CD setup won detect the HDD... cuz it's running on ACHI mode... vmad.gif

so to remedy this prob... i juz use the Intel ACHI driver... i finally got the setup to detect the HDD but got error copying the driver while copying files... vmad.gif no i'm still digging my way around this... i curse HP and Microsoft to the MAX....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif


Added on October 3, 2007, 7:46 pmok... solution 1 to install Vista on 965GM chipset lappy found and confirmed usable... juz follow the following steps:
these are done on Compaq V3658TU using OEM Windows XP pro and my frenz Vista trial which he got during last year's WCG... icon_rolleyes.gif

1) install Vista(u gotta bear wif it) on 2nd partition... and u gotta fully install till u can log on to vista... no drivers needed though...

2) restart and install windows XP on the 1st partition... but don forget to load the AHCI drivers from USB floppy drive or u can integrate it to ur Windows CD... brows.gif

3) look for all the drivers while waiting...

4) remove Vista from the startup.ini...

5) format the partition where u install Vista...

6) hola... go cheer wif ur lappy and celebrate ur victory over HP's stupid Vista promoting campaign and show ur finger to them...

i guess i defeated HP yet again... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

if u still fail... u can send ur lappy to me to check and maybe crack it... brows.gif

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Oct 8 2007, 12:15 AM
DomDom
post Oct 17 2007, 02:35 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
13 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
I got new presario v3514 last two months. I able to format my lappy to window xp (press F6 to detect HDD method). But now, I cannot install my intelchipset driver. Can anyone help me where can I get intel chipset driver?

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0239sec    0.90    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 21st December 2025 - 11:37 PM