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Whom do you wish these will be taking over the dealership?
 
Bermaz [ 71 ] ** [62.83%]
Sime Darby [ 15 ] ** [13.27%]
DRB Hicom [ 19 ] ** [16.81%]
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post Nov 4 2020, 09:54 AM, updated 4 months ago

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/peug...e-observers-say

So it is confirmed that Naza group is letting go Peugeot and Kia.

There is speculation that Bermaz is the forerunner to take over, Sime Darby kind of say not interested but only god know what they are really thinking and will eventually do.

So I have wondered whom you would have preferred them to be fallen into?

If you don't care any way, that is fine too.

Just trying to see how FnF fellow forumner feel about this

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post Nov 4 2020, 10:00 AM

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I will vote for Sime Darby.
If...and if their can get KIA, their will combine Service under one roof.

Peugeot? Peugeot or PSA is approve to merge with FCA.

Good news for AR and FIAT.

Maybe finally can bring in all of those makers and Sime Darby back to sell the AR in Malaysia.

IMHO
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post Nov 4 2020, 10:12 AM

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As a BAUTO shareholder, I'd prefer they take KIA & not Peugeot.
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post Nov 4 2020, 10:12 AM

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Peugeot? Avoid like a plaque!
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post Nov 4 2020, 10:16 AM

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KIA is maybe more worth to save, but Pgt just let it gone. I prefer someone brings back Suzuki instead.
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post Nov 4 2020, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 4 2020, 10:16 AM)
KIA is maybe more worth to save, but Pgt just let it gone. I prefer someone brings back Suzuki instead.
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good news.

Naza is bringing back Suzuki. laugh.gif
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post Nov 4 2020, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 4 2020, 10:24 AM)
good news.

Naza is bringing back Suzuki. laugh.gif
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Really? Last time heard rumours of this but nothing materialized. You got some reference links that confirm this? Would be great if it comes back.
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Nov 4 2020, 10:00 AM)
I will vote for Sime Darby.
If...and if their can get KIA, their will combine Service under one roof.

Peugeot? Peugeot or PSA is approve to merge with FCA.

Good news for AR and FIAT.

Maybe finally can bring in all of those makers and Sime Darby back to sell the AR in Malaysia.

IMHO
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Consider how Hyundai is doing under SD.....anything but SD.
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post Nov 4 2020, 11:01 AM

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Maybe Bermaz..
I hate how Sime Darby put their logo at the back of the car.. do they still do that?
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Nov 4 2020, 11:01 AM)
Maybe Bermaz..
I hate how Sime Darby put their logo at the back of the car.. do they still do that?
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No more Inokom lah.

SimeDarby very good with Hyundai Service. Top class i presumed. but, the specs is so-so only for all the Hyundai models in Malaysia.

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Didn't sime Darby have the Aussie Peugeot dealership already. See how that turn out.
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Nov 4 2020, 11:14 AM)
No more Inokom lah.

SimeDarby very good with Hyundai Service. Top class i presumed. but, the specs is so-so only for all the Hyundai models in Malaysia.
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Sime darby is the distributor for Kia in Taiwan, and they put their logo behind the Stinger.. I am like WT....
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post Nov 4 2020, 11:29 AM

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I don't care much about Peugeot, Kia has potential if handled properly. Honestly, I'd prefer a new player, maybe Didi Resources, who has taken over most of Naza's bike distribution like Aprilia, Vespa, Harley Davidson etc. Time for them to expand.
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QUOTE(Aydee @ Nov 4 2020, 11:29 AM)
I don't care much about Peugeot, Kia has potential if handled properly. Honestly, I'd prefer a new player, maybe Didi Resources, who has taken over most of Naza's bike distribution like Aprilia, Vespa, Harley Davidson etc. Time for them to expand.
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Bikes and Cars are different territories.

Bad resources same mindset, mampuih.

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post Nov 4 2020, 01:31 PM

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https://themalaysianreserve.com/2020/10/30/...-auto-business/

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post Nov 7 2020, 10:06 AM

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So far 40 voted. 60% go to Bermaz. 20% votes to DRB Hicom
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who ever takes, will have a lot of work to do, since the image is already implanted.

Kia probably can survive, if the price is correct. but Peugeot, i think this really need to reconsider. those who take up will have plenty of money to throw around. its not easy on french makes.

Very nice pretty. but when it comes to breakdown its a nightmare. i dont own, but definitely plenty of stories out there.

on Kia side, its korean, its imprinted is value for money and bang for the buck, ban chian kueh, all in one kueh with everything in it that is cheap to eat and satisfy the stomach.

If its price right, it will survive, like it did during forte time,


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whoever takes on peugeot right now, good luck lah, their marketing team sure headache how to improve their previous bad image + now with the ongoing boycott french product movement campaign..
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 7 2020, 09:53 PM)
whoever takes on peugeot right now, good luck lah, their marketing team sure headache how to improve their previous bad image + now with the ongoing boycott french product movement campaign..
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price it cheap and provide adequate aftersales support for the first 5 years then sure will gain traction.
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https://www.dsf.my/2020/10/should-kia-owner...sia-be-worried/

Red is closing down one by one

Blue?
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post Nov 16 2020, 04:14 PM

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https://themalaysianreserve.com/2020/11/16/...peugeot-brands/

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Challenging task to revive Kia, Peugeot brandsMonday, November 16th, 2020 at , News | Wheels

The Korean and French marques would face the same struggle under a new owner they endure under Naza, says analyst

by RAHIMI YUNUS / pic by BLOOMBERG

ANY company that is going to be the new distributor of Kia and Peugeot after Naza Group of Cos is expected to face a huge challenge to make the two brands successful in Malaysia.

Bermaz Auto Bhd (BAuto) was widely speculated to take over the distribution franchise from Naza, but many believe the opportunities in the two makes offer are limited.

Industry experts said Kia and Peugeot — Korean and French marques respectively — would face the same struggle under a new owner that they endured under Naza, which is product positioning.

An automotive industry leader said the two brands will be competing in a market where national cars are becoming increasingly popular, hence squeezing the non-national segment’s market share. Within what’s left of this segment, the Japanese makes are strong for head-on competition.

The experienced auto analyst said the market shares of national and non-national cars used to be 50-50. However, they are now at about 70-30, with Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co Ltd-led Proton Holdings Bhd enjoying a growing market share.

“Non-national cars are squeezed to 30% of the market share. Geely’s cars eat up non-national cars. They do not compete with Perusahaan Otomobil Kedua Sdn Bhd.

“Malaysia’s automotive market is a zero-sum game with hardly increasing total industry volume. With 30% left and a lack of strength to compete with Honda and Toyota brands, I do not think the change of distributor will make any difference,” the source told The Malaysian Reserve (TMR).

The source said Kia’s and Peugeot’s marketability would be handicapped by low volume, thus making it difficult for the brands to enter into the completely knocked-down space to get an edge, for example, in terms of pricing from excise duty incentives.

Another industry insider said the two brands may end up cannibalising BAuto’s Mazda portfolio, which offers the same range of products.

“It is just the same thing, but another choice of brand. Kia, Peugeot and Mazda are all offering SUVs that criss-cross each other. The pricing is not going to be much different. The two brands will eventually cannibalise Mazda unless Kia wants to play a volume game,” the source told TMR.

The source said Kia and Peugeot will dilute BAuto’s focus on Mazda in terms of capital expenditure and branding.

“BAuto is lucky that Mazda does not give them a lot of problems and sell on its own,” the source added.

The source said there is no guarantee Kia and Peugeot will be successful under a new distributor unless the principals come in a joint-venture deal.

TMR recently reported that Naza was weighing options to leave the automotive business.

A source said the conglomerate would only focus on completely built-up and approved permit businesses, while all completely knocked-down and manufacturing were likely to go to BAuto.

To date, BAuto has not confirmed or denied the rumours nor has it announced anything on the exchange regarding the matters.

Naza used to generate about RM30 million and RM20 million a month from Kia and Peugeot distributorships respectively, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

In a recent report, CGS-CIMB Securities Sdn Bhd analyst Mohd Shanaz Noor Azam said Kia could be a good fit for BAuto given the diverse portfolio offerings by the Korean marque, which focus more on passenger cars and multipurpose vehicle segments.

“We think BAuto could also be a good fit given its track record in turning around the Mazda distributorship in Malaysia. To recap, BAuto’s management took over Mazda distributorship in 2008, and it had successfully raised Mazda’s annual sales volume from less than 1,000 units in 2008, to over 14,000 units in 2015,” Mohd Shanaz stated in the report.

He noted that Peugeot could be in direct competition with Mazda for BAuto given the similar portfolio offerings and pricing strategy, especially in the SUV segment.

Hence, the analyst said it could complicate the situation for BAuto.

Nevertheless, he said Peugeot has a decent portfolio in the hybrid and electric vehicle segments, which is not available in the Malaysian market but could appeal to BAuto.
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https://www.motor1.com/news/456437/stellant...lly-buying-fca/

On the side note:

Looks like PSA is the acquirer and FCA is being boughtover....So PSA is the boss.....
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post Dec 1 2020, 10:10 PM

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Well well

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BCorp unit wins exclusive distribution rights for Peugeot vehicles in Malaysia

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KUALA LUMPUR (Dec 1): A new company that is 51% owned by Berjaya Corp Bhd (BCorp) and 20% owned by Bermaz Auto Bhd (BAuto) has been awarded the sole rights to distribution new Peugeot vehicles in Malaysia.

Berjaya Auto Alliance Sdn Bhd (BAASB) has also won the rights for after-sales services and spare parts distribution for Peugeot Citroen and DS vehicles.

BCorp CEO Datuk Seri Robin Tan said the conglomerate is pleased to be given the opportunity by French car manufacturer Groupe PSA to be part of this new collaboration.

“This new collaboration will complement our group’s existing automotive business, namely H.R. Owen Plc and Berjaya China Motor Sdn Bhd. We believe this collaboration between Berjaya Corp, Bermaz and Groupe PSA will bring positive synergistic benefits to all parties,” Tan said in a statement.

Meanwhile, BAuto executive chairman Datuk Seri Ben Yeoh said it is honoured that Groupe PSA and BCorp had recognised its capabilities and expertise in the automobile industry and is delighted to participate in the new collaboration.

“Peugeot, Citroen and DS are European marque cars well-known for their driving comfort, smooth handling, modern designs, durability and state-of-the-art technology. Hence, we are elated and looking forward to a successful collaboration with BCorp and Groupe PSA via BAASB,” Yeoh said.

Groupe PSA South East Asia senior vice president Laurence Noel said its Peugeot 3008 and Peugeot 5008 sports utility vehicles have garnered a lot of attention in Malaysia in the past few years.

“It is our plan in the near future to introduce our global successes such as the all-new Peugeot 2008 in Malaysia.

“Further to that, we aim to continuously revolutionise the customer experience together with our new partner BAASB and underscore our commitment to our customers through excellent sales and after-sales service. Groupe PSA has made Malaysia its export hub for the region,” Noel said.

Shares in BCorp finished 2.78% or half a sen higher at 18.5 sen, valuing the group at RM972.63 million. Meanwhile, BAuto was up 3.68% or five sen at RM1.41, with a market capitalisation of RM1.64 billion.
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.https://www.carlist.my/news/would-the-bangsar-babes-love-the-honda-e-and-peugeot-e-208-81137/81137/
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Would The Bangsar Babes love the Honda E and Peugeot e-208?Insights 

ADAM AUBREY  |  NOVEMBER 26, 2020 03:48 PM

The Honda e and Peugeot e-208 is the perfect city car, it's a shame we can't have them. 

When we were geeking out at the Polestar 2 at Vision Motorsports a couple of weeks ago, the owner of the now-famous car dealership, Raja Petra mentioned that bringing in fully electric cars will be his primary mission from now on as he sees enormous potential in this area. 

Part of the conversation we had about this exciting new vision of his included the type of full-electric cars that would be great for the Malaysian market. Obviously, at the moment, the best cars in terms of pricing are the Teslas and Polestars, but only because they are made in China which gives him some leeway in terms of pricing, as cars made in China have better tariff codes in Malaysia compared to cars made elsewhere he said.

A couple of cars that he is really keen on is the Peugeot e-208 as well as the Honda e, but it's just difficult to justify bringing them in as the tax bill alone will make these small electric cars even more expensive than the bigger Tesla and Polestar. 

Imagine having to pay more than RM400k for those two little electric mini cars; it just wouldn't make any economic sense. This is especially so when their electric range is smaller than the Tesla and Polestar, which will only make them a city-specific run about electric vehicle.

It's a shame really because if the prices are lower, some Malaysians might actually turn to them as they are the perfect city cars. They are small and practically maintenance and gasoline free. Wins all around! 

My superior reckons that if they were made available in Malaysia, it'll be the perfect car for the Mont Kiara and Bangsar babes or even The Desperate Housewives of Hartamas. They are stylish, cute, and easy to park, making it the perfect car for those who live and frequent these affluent residential suburbs.

While I don't really have an opinion of this sort, I do see where he is coming from. Raja Petra, on the other hand, is currently rallying the right people to help change the tax structure for electric cars, but he says unless the nation doesn't start to voice their needs for these cars, it's hard to change it at the top. 

But then again, we are a fossil fuel producing country which only means that the people at the top will do everything it takes to protect this monumental profit-making substance which is why we think it'll be a tough fight.  

What do you think? Would these cars get much love in Malaysia if the prices are reasonable?
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Nov 4 2020, 11:14 AM)
No more Inokom lah.

SimeDarby very good with Hyundai Service. Top class i presumed. but, the specs is so-so only for all the Hyundai models in Malaysia.
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Hmm? I just bought an Ioniq and spec wise, it's really top notch for the price point
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post Dec 7 2020, 10:40 AM

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Coming soon
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https://www.carlist.my/news/peugeot-208-and...an-81267/81267/

This looks like a good start. A very good start

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post Jan 8 2021, 12:02 PM

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TO Peugeot owners

https://www.carlist.my/news/attention-peuge...ia-81508/81508/
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https://www.carlist.my/news/kia-seltos-fina...6k-81534/81534/

The last hurrah from Naza Kia



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It seem like nobody wants KIA. Not surprising since it compete directly against Hyundai which shared most of the parts.
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Any idea when the new 508 is launching here?
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Any idea when the new 508 is launching here?
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Zigwheel: Feb 2021

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zigwheels....08-2019%3famp=1

But no one know for sure although P***t*n has a spotted OTR report
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Nov 4 2020, 10:00 AM)
I will vote for Sime Darby.
If...and if their can get KIA, their will combine Service under one roof.

Peugeot? Peugeot or PSA is approve to merge with FCA.

Good news for AR and FIAT.

Maybe finally can bring in all of those makers and Sime Darby back to sell the AR in Malaysia.

IMHO
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Confirm close shop. Some darby service and parts and prices is ridiculous.
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Zigwheel: Feb 2021

https://www.zigwheels.my/new-cars/peugeot/508-2019

But no one know for sure although P***t*n has a spotted OTR report
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jan 14 2021, 06:00 PM)
Zigwheel: Feb 2021

https://www.zigwheels.my/new-cars/peugeot/508-2019

But no one know for sure although P***t*n has a spotted OTR report
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It says here that the expected price is RM 121,131. Seems to good to be true. hmm.gif
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Today is the day
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Spot Again 508 at Gurun Kedah
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Both these brands should just exit from Malaysia.
These are not widely accepted by the majority of the car buying public.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 20 2021, 11:59 AM)
Both these brands should just exit from Malaysia.
These are not widely accepted by the majority of the car buying public.
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They will not be following GM/Chevrolet, at the very worst, they will be like Ford, being niche
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Kia will lead Apple car?

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/apple-ca...a-hyundai-work/

New logo.
No motor.
7 Electric Vehicles

https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/11309...ectric-vehicles

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Next-gen Peugeot 208, 2008 will ditch ICE, only be sold as electric vehicles

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/next-gen-peugeot-...-180000943.html


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Good for Kia
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Bemax has taken over Peugeot from Naza. It's already been a while, why is it struggling to get it foot on the floor?

Service & warranty claims still seem to be an issue!
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Feb 27 2021, 10:35 AM)
Bemax has taken over Peugeot from Naza. It's already been a while, why is it struggling to get it foot on the floor?

Service & warranty claims still seem to be an issue!
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It has taken them a while to bring Mazda where it is here in Malaysia , so I guess we just have to be a bit patient
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Feb 27 2021, 10:35 AM)
Bemax has taken over Peugeot from Naza. It's already been a while, why is it struggling to get it foot on the floor?

Service & warranty claims still seem to be an issue!
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Soon. There have been sightings of the new 508 and 2008 OTR on a couple of occassions, hopefully they are in the final stage of testing for local conditions.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 27 2021, 02:05 AM)
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Looks like Proton's emblem with a different animal along with Porcshe looking font.
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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Feb 27 2021, 06:33 PM)
Looks like Proton's emblem with a different animal along with Porcshe looking font.
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The new logo is much like the one used in 1960. Take A closer look.
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In fact , it is ...Revival of historic logo

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry...rebranding-move

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Personally I prefer the 2010 emblem. That appears bold in character!
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Feb 28 2021, 11:05 AM)
Personally I prefer the 2010 emblem. That appears bold in character!
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The lion on two hind legs was the theme from 1948 to 1959 then from 1976 to 2020 (for 55 years altogether) while this roaring lion in the shield theme is only used from 1960 to 1975 (15 years) .

I like the fact it is given another chance. Certainly I believe it is an upmarket yet keeping in the long history brand move.

Some say it reminds them of Lamborghini logo but I think it also remind me of the roaring Jaguar face on the front grill of Jaguar's.

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https://jalopnik.com/every-peugeot-logo-in-...nked-1846358423

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Kia , oh Makcik Kia

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 1 2021, 10:43 AM)
Kia , oh Makcik Kia

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Hopefully Kia finds a proper distributor. Kia products have made a somewhat upmarket shift of late, the Stinger, new Sorento and K5 seem to have earned rave reviews over in the States. Plus, the recently launched K8 looks really good.

Would love to see them on our shores, at a reasonable price of course.
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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Mar 1 2021, 11:27 AM)
Hopefully Kia finds a proper distributor. Kia products have made a somewhat upmarket shift of late, the Stinger, new Sorento and K5 seem to have earned rave reviews over in the States. Plus, the recently launched K8 looks really good.

Would love to see them on our shores, at a reasonable price of course.
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Like the article say, even the transfer to new distributor is held up ...

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The Kia franchise handover is taking longer than normal because of the involvement of more companies and the additional due diligence processes.

On top of the sales and distribution franchise, a Malaysian party understood to be an independent motor distributor backed by Bermaz Auto Bhd group is keen to invite the South Korea-based Kia Motor Corporation (KMC) to invest in Malaysia as a regional auto manufacturing hub.

Until the new importer-cum-franchise holder is announced, Naza-Kia remains the official franchise holder for Kia cars sold in Malaysia.
Will Kia Korea, as invited , invest in Malaysia as a regional auto manufacturing hub?

So don't hold your breath for it.
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Bemax has taken over Peugeot from Naza. It's already been a while, why is it struggling to get it foot on the floor?

Service & warranty claims still seem to be an issue!
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With below news... The new distributor must and will take heed

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...faulty-new-car/


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Still no sign of the 508 and 2008. The 508 is a 3 year old car in some parts of the world. I think they’re only doing a mistake by delaying it
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Still no sign of the 508 and 2008. The 508 is a 3 year old car in some parts of the world. I think they’re only doing a mistake by delaying it
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https://www.zigwheels.my/upcoming-cars/peugeot

zigwheel expect date of launch for 508 is 01-04-2021....so keeping finger crossed? console.gif

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2021, 10:38 PM)
https://www.zigwheels.my/upcoming-cars/peugeot

zigwheel expect date of launch for 508 is 01-04-2021....so keeping finger crossed? console.gif
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macam April Fool sahaja... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 5 2021, 10:38 PM)
https://www.zigwheels.my/upcoming-cars/peugeot

zigwheel expect date of launch for 508 is 01-04-2021....so keeping finger crossed? console.gif
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The expected price of RM121,131 is unbeliveable. I'll be surpised if its's priced cheaper than the passat laugh.gif
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The expected price of RM121,131 is unbeliveable. I'll be surpised if its's priced cheaper than the passat  laugh.gif
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Very likely an under estimation on Zigwheels part. Won't be the first time that they were wrong.
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Peugeot's survival in Malaysia depends so much on how the new boys will promote & provide after sales services. If its a repetition of the old guard,this brand is doomed!

So far there is nothing to suggest any different! That is a shame & I hope I'm wrong!
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Mar 8 2021, 09:55 AM)
Peugeot's survival  in Malaysia depends so much on how the new boys will promote & provide after sales services. If its a repetition of the old guard,this brand is doomed!

So far there is nothing to suggest any different! That is a shame & I hope I'm wrong!
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/busine...itions-14323122

https://insideevs.com/news/492488/stellanti...ctric-vehicles/

What do you think of the above?

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Just went to check out the 3008 last weekend. The SA said that 2008 might enter in April, 1st week.

No news for 508.
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Just went to check out the 3008 last weekend. The SA said that 2008 might enter in April, 1st week.

No news for 508.
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Did the SA mention which variant (whether it's the e-2008, or the 155hp version)?
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Did the SA mention which variant (whether it's the e-2008, or the 155hp version)?
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He didn’t know!
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Just went to check out the 3008 last weekend. The SA said that 2008 might enter in April, 1st week.

No news for 508.
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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Mar 8 2021, 03:15 PM)
Did the SA mention which variant (whether it's the e-2008, or the 155hp version)?
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QUOTE(jagadis @ Mar 8 2021, 03:47 PM)
He didn’t know!
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Aiya...by 1H2021 is the official word

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2020/12/652...t-cars-asean-q1

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Classic story of too little too late. Their target is 2025. Halllo,this 2021 & the Chinese are well ahead in the field of EVs right now!
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Classic story of too little too late. Their target is 2025. Halllo,this 2021 & the Chinese are well ahead in the field of EVs right now!
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They squarely said US n Europe...

No Asia plan is ever mentioned .

As far as China is concerned, they still have no firm plan what to do.

Strangely though, Jeep is having sort of an action which escaped many radar...

https://www.carlist.my/news/jeep-malaysia-l...wk-82138/82138/

Well. That turns out to be the first action under Stellantis

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Wonder how a new logo of Peugeot will look on their car....

Well well, wondering no more...Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 10 2020, 12:21 PM)
https://www.carlist.my/news/peugeot-208-and...an-81267/81267/

This looks like a good start. A very good start

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https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releas...hoice-strategy/


https://www.electrive.com/2021/03/12/peugeo...n-free-by-2023/

Some how this power of choice eludes us here in Malaysia. Lest you change that , Peugeot. By 2023 as you have planned. I will wait for you

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Kia Motors finds new brand guardian in Berjaya Auto

Daniel Fernandez

 

March 13, 2021 10:00 AM



It has been confirmed that the Kia brand will move from Naza Kia to Berjaya Auto.

Rumours that the Kia brand will move from Naza Kia to Berjaya Auto (Bermaz) just as the Peugeot brand moved from Nasim to Berjaya Auto Alliance a few months back, has been circulating for some time.

Now it seems to be confirmed as AmInvestment Bank issued a report on March 11 congratulating Bermaz Auto on their “potential win of the Kia manufacturing, assembly and distribution rights”, possibly by April 2021.

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Notice by AmInvestment Bank confirming the move from Naza Kia to Berjaya Auto.

DSF spoke to a representative of the Kia Malaysia office, who gave assurances that all current running vehicle warranties are all still very much intact and the Kia brand is still very much in operation in Malaysia.

Yes, Naza Kia was to retire as the brand guardian of Kia in Malaysia and was in ‘talks’ with a new brand guardian, Berjaya (B Auto), who were ready to look at reviving the brand with new and exciting vehicles and also better after-sales.

Meanwhile, the current globally popular Kia Seltos Crossover was launched by Naza Kia in January this year, after six months of teasing the vehicle.

Since then, only one unit of the Seltos has been sold and delivered. The Kia Seltos’s selling price is RM115,888 for the EX version and RM133,888 for the high specification GT-Line.

Sit tight for announcements of the new and exciting Kia models that will be arriving in Malaysia soon.

Meanwhile, there has been no confirmation on the Naza Kia ‘used car buy back programme’ launched in November 2016. This might be an issue for Kia owners who valued the programme.

So, what exciting new Kia models will be arriving in Malaysia under the new brand guardian?

Words out that it will be the new 4th generation Kia Carnival MPV, the K5 sedan that has been winning awards around the globe and possibly the new Sorento luxury SUV, an award winner.

So sit tight for the official announcement next month.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 12 2021, 08:50 AM)
OMG looks like a poor Proton copy! Shocking release by a French Co. well known for spectular designs !

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damn...
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OMG looks like a poor Proton copy!  Shocking release by a French Co. well known for spectular designs !
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I think it still.looks better than the current 308 that is just too Golf , get what I mean?
The new face and rear is really BOLD

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I think it still.looks better than the current 308 that is just too Golf , get what I mean?
The new face and rear is really BOLD

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It does appear bold. Have to take a look at it in real life, may be good!
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and Naza secured suzuki brand for malaysia

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That was a year ago news, right . Don't think it will materialize.


The word is NAZA is ....

https://themalaysianreserve.com/2020/10/30/...-auto-business/

CBU Suzuki....That is not going to fly

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Seems Bermaz did well in their portfolio. Let's give this to Bermaz. Let the auto market grow!
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Wonder how a new logo of Peugeot will look on their car....

Well well, wondering no more...Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image
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I got turned off by the logo... ....

Damn singaporean... ...

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That was a year ago news, right . Don't think it will materialize.
The word is NAZA is ....

https://themalaysianreserve.com/2020/10/30/...-auto-business/
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Suzuki Returns To Malaysia This April 2021 With Swift And Jimny
https://www.dsf.my/2021/03/suzuki-returns-t...sVWmu6SHmidgaJo

dunno true or not
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I got turned off by the logo... ....

Damn singaporean... ...
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LOL...

If it does , don't buy.... cool2.gif

I get it....In a world where everyone else's logo going flat, think Nissan , think Kia, think even GM, this Peugeot buck the trend and go the opposite , so it irks many , I really get it.

In fact even Stellantis logo is getting a lot of "why, why why?" kind of response



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Suzuki Returns To Malaysia This April 2021 With Swift And Jimny
https://www.dsf.my/2021/03/suzuki-returns-t...sVWmu6SHmidgaJo

dunno true or not
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Suzuki was reasonably priced under the last dealer (apart from the S-Cross)

Not looking forward to this, given how expensive Kia prices are now.
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LOL...

If it does , don't buy.... cool2.gif

I get it....In a world where everyone else's logo going flat, think Nissan , think Kia, think even GM, this Peugeot buck the trend and go the opposite , so it irks many , I really get it.

In fact even Stellantis logo is getting a lot of "why, why why?" kind of response
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*agrees*

the French are known to make funky "not boring" cars and they worked half the time. I personally don't have any issues with the new emblem but just that it's a tad too big but that is all. A Lamborghini also adorns a crest as its background and no one complained dry.gif

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KUALA LUMPUR (April 1): Bermaz Auto Bhd (BAuto) is partnering Kia Motors Corp to undertake manufacturing and distributing Kia vehicles in Malaysia.

The two parties are forming a JV company named Kia Malaysia Sdn Bhd (KMSB) to undertake the assembly of complete knock-down (CKD) Kia vehicles here whereby BAuto will own 33.33% with the remainder to be held by Kia Corp.

“Kia Corp intends to make KMSB the regional manufacturing hub for its Kia brand of vehicles in ASEAN countries and other potential markets,” said BAuto in its filing.


The JV will produce its first two models Kia Seltos and Kia Carnival, with a third model to be determined later. BAuto said it may fund up to RM20 million for its portion of KMSB’s share capital depending on the company’s funding requirements.

Concurrently Kia Corp has also appointed Dinamikjaya Motors Sdn Bhd as the new distributor of Kia vehicles in Malaysia.

BAuto announced today that it will pay RM3.25 million to subscribe to a 65% stake in Dinamikjaya from its original promoters and shareholders “which are also involved in the wholesale and retail of motor vehicles in Malaysia”.

“After months of searching for the right partner, Kia is delighted to enter into the Kia JV and Kia Distributorship with BAuto,” Kia Asia Pacific president and chief executive officer Tae Hun Lee said in a statement.

“With BAuto’s proven capability in successfully building up automotive marques in Malaysia and the Philippines as well as their automotive manufacturing experience, we believe we have placed the Kia brand in good hands under the capable leadership of its Executive Chairman, Datuk Seri Ben Yeoh,” Tae added.

Yeoh, in the same statement, said that the Kia JV and distributorship will complement BAuto’s existing group automotive businesses — which include being the official distributor of Mazda models here.

“We are pleased to be given this opportunity to undertake the Kia JV and Kia distributorship with our partner Kia under Hyundai Motor Group, which is Korea's second-largest multinational automotive manufacturer and currently the fifth-largest automotive manufacturer in the world,” Yeoh said.

It was reported in October last year that Kia’s official distributor Naza Group was looking to let go of its distributorship of the Korean carmaker as well as Peugeot as a result of the weak automotive market, with BAuto tipped by analysts as the likely winner.

Shares of BAuto closed unchanged at RM1.44 today, valuing the automotive outfit at RM1.68 billion.

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Now Bermaz has the lions share in the "premium generalist" market.

Mazda, Peugeot and Kia are positioned as premium generalist (or attempting to move upmarket) alongside VW, priced and positioned higher than the likes of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Ford, while remaining below merc, beemer, audi, lexus and etc.
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Now Bermaz has the lions share in the "premium generalist" market.

Mazda, Peugeot and Kia are positioned as premium generalist (or attempting to move upmarket) alongside VW, priced and positioned higher than the likes of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Ford, while remaining below merc, beemer, audi, lexus and etc.
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Not forgetting a few other brands already coming on board...Chinese ones
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and Naza secured suzuki brand for malaysia

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Suzuki Returns To Malaysia This April 2021 With Swift And Jimny
https://www.dsf.my/2021/03/suzuki-returns-t...sVWmu6SHmidgaJo

dunno true or not
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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Mar 24 2021, 01:39 PM)
Suzuki was reasonably priced under the last dealer (apart from the S-Cross)

Not looking forward to this, given how expensive Kia prices are now.
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Naza Eastern Motors appointed as Suzuki distributor in Malaysia
AUTO
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8:32 PM MYT


PETALING JAYA: Naza Eastern Motors Sdn Bhd has been appointed as the distributor of new Suzuki cars in Malaysia.

The first Suzuki model is set to be launched in Malaysia in April.

In a statement, Naza said the appointment allowed Naza Eastern Motors to sell and provide after-sales service for new generation Suzuki vehicles only.

Naza Corp Holdings group executive chairman/CEO SM Nasarudin SM Nasimuddin said: “It brings us great honour to be able to work with a Japanese automotive giant that successfully captured the hearts of Malaysian consumers during its years in the Malaysian market.

“The team at Naza Eastern Motors is committed to ensure we build on the strong reputation Suzuki has established by providing quality products that are reliable, desirable and cheerful,” he said.


Suzuki Motor Corporation senior managing officer, executive general manager, global automobile marketing Kinji Saito said Suzuki was delighted to return to the Malaysian market with the Naza Group as its distributor.

“Our experience with the Malaysian market has been delightful due to the huge acceptance from our customers, and we greatly appreciate the continued trust for Suzuki. We are looking forward to introducing our latest award-winning cars to these loyal Suzuki fans,” he said.

Suzuki’s first flagship 3S showroom will be located in Naza Automall, Petaling Jaya. Inspired by the Suzuki “Way of Life!” motto, the showroom boasts more than 3,000sqft of space and will welcome customers with a bright and vibrant environment along with some interactive points.

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By Ayisy Yusof
April 5, 2021 @ 10:11am

Bermaz Auto Bhd’s (BAuto) partnership with Kia Motors Corp will likely deliver sales of about 2,000 units of Kia vehicles next year, some analysts said. Pix by Bloomberg

KUALA LUMPUR: Bermaz Auto Bhd's (BAuto) partnership with Kia Motors Corp will likely deliver sales of about 2,000 units of Kia vehicles next year, some analysts said.

This would subsequently more than triple to 7,000 units in 2023, according to CGS-CIMB Research.

MIDF Research believes that over four to five years, Kia's sales volume can match or exceed BAuto's Mazda volume of between 10,000 and 12,000 per annum.

BAuto and Kia on Friday signed an agreement to form Kia Malaysia Sdn Bhd to undertake the assembly of completely knocked down (CKD) Kia vehicles in Malaysia.

CGS-CIMB said the partnership was BAuto's effort to expand its portfolio offerings across middle-to-premium segments.

This came after the recent addition of Peugeot distributorship under a 20 per cent-owned associate Berjaya Auto Alliance.

CGS-CIMB said BAuto and Kia would hold 33.3 per cent and 66.7 per cent stakes in Kia Malaysia with an initial investment of RM20 million and RM40 million respectively.

The South Korean carmaker has also appointed BAuto's subsidiary Dinamikjaya Motors Sdn Bhd as the new distributor of Kia vehicles in Malaysia.

Dinamikjaya holds the right to distribute and sell Kia vehicles, CKD and completely built-up (CBU) models, sales of genuine parts as well as the provision of after sales service in Malaysia.

CGS-CIMB analyst Mohd Shanaz Noor Azam said Dinamikjaya would be a bigger sales volume driver than Berjaya Auto.

"We also see an attractive opportunity for the after sales services business given that there have been over 45,000 Kia vehicles sold in Malaysia over the past 10 years," he said in a report.

Mohd Shanaz said BAuto's 29 per cent-owned associate Inokom would benefit from higher assembly volumes given that Kia Malaysia was expecting to utilise Inokom's production assembly in Kulim, Kedah.

"BAuto could also benefit from Kia's aggressive electric vehicle (EV) roadmap strategy given that the Korean marque plans to introduce 11 EV models by 2027," he said.

Kia and BAuto said three models were initially planned for the Malaysian market.

The first two models - Kia Seltos and Kia Carnival - are expected to be produced locally under the new set up, while the third model will be determined at a later stage.

"We gathered that Kia Malaysia plans to start the CKD assembly with the Carnival in the fourth-quarter of 2021, followed by Kia Seltos in the second quarter of 2022," he said.

Kia plans to establish Kia Malaysia as the regional manufacturing hub for its vehicles in Asean countries and other potential markets.

CGD-CIMB raised BAuto's financial year ending April 30, 2022 to 2023 (FY22-FY23) earnings per share (EPS) by 5.0 per cent to 15 per cent and retain "add" call with a higher target price of RM1.88 per share.

 

The higher EPS forecast takes into account new volume contribution from Dinamikjaya as BAuto might deliver a combined 16,000 and 20,500 units sales volume in FY22 and FY23 respectively.

"We expect a two-year earnings per share compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 29 per cent (FY21-FY23)."

MIDF Research analyst Hafriz Hezry said Kia aimed to make Kia Malaysia its assembly hub for Asean (Thailand, the Philippines, Cambodia).

"Kia currently has little manufacturing presence within Asean, with only one joint-venture in Vietnam for assembly of left-hand drive models for its domestic market.

"Exports is expected to commence within the same timeline as domestic CKD models.

"We think Kia Malaysia has the potential to serve as an important platform to leapfrog Kia's expansion within this region," he said in a report.


"Beyond immediate-term prospects, Kia also has a range of EV and hybrid models, which would prepare BAuto well for the eventual transition within the next one to two decades."

Hafriz said Dinamikjaya could turn in profits within the first year of operations by FY22, based on the targeted 2,000-2,500 units in 2022.
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