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post Nov 3 2020, 04:46 PM, updated 4y ago

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What would you like to know about the real estate industry in Malaysia?

How easy can it be on making decision on what to buy or invest?

What are process for first time buyers?

Blah blah blah....

Get your questions discussed here. Appreciate if everyone who comment a constructive and positive answers related and not harming anyone.


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post Nov 4 2020, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(chiwawa10 @ Nov 3 2020, 05:06 PM)
Is there anywhere to check if a property is listed for bank lelong?
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Check with auctioneers. You can try https://www.ngchanmau.com

But do understand the risk of going for auctioned property. Especially if the property is currently tenanted. Understand that bank only sell the property, they do not be responsible on evicting the people staying inside.
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post Nov 4 2020, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(chiwawa10 @ Nov 4 2020, 04:27 PM)
Huh? Is there no way of evicting people staying inside? Let's say if I eventually bought the property, doesn't it count as wrongly trespassing into my private property? No one can enforce it, e.g. the police?
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Worth taking note that currently in Malaysia we do not have a tenancy law. And the current law actually pro tenants than owner. Of cos there's way to evict the tenant, but it will be a long process and you need to get an eviction notice from the court. And that I heard some waited more than 6 months to get it. And there's not confirmation that you will get it. The other alternative is to engage a lawyer and file a civil case against the tenant.

I would say this is one of the main concern when buying an auctioned property. There are other concerns too, such as the condition of the property. For auction properties, while you might get a great price, especially during this point of time, but at the same time, you are buying a property without looking at the inside of the property. So buyer better be prepared to fork out more for renovation cost if the conditions is bad. And they might end up paying more for the property due to the renovation cost.

My advise is, make sure you know why are you buying it. Own use or investment. If own use, then not much issue as you probably buy it because u like the location, and an auctioned property comes with a rare good price. But for investment purposes, make sure you get as much info as possible. Maybe buy a fruit basket and get to know the next door neighbour to learn more about the person staying in the house.

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post Nov 5 2020, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(chiwawa10 @ Nov 5 2020, 09:43 AM)
Thanks for the tips bro! Appreciate that. Looking to buy the property for own stay. Will try to dig as much info from the neighbours as possible.
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All the best in finding the right property. Tips for buying on own stay: make sure you really like the place ...
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post Nov 5 2020, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(shaoching @ Nov 5 2020, 04:51 PM)
would like to ask, after the SPA for subsale enforce, I have 3months until the bank fully drawdown to the vendor. however, my lawyer keep on telling me in process and they cant control 3rd party (such as developer/bank/authorities side)

how if the SPA is due and im subjected to penalty even its not my fault? as I keep on pushing the lawyer but he's like tak apa…..
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Hi. sorry for the late reply.

Normally we (REN) will help buyer to follow up on the cases. While we cant control all parties, we always ask for the latest updates so we can keep all parties updated. For vendor, what they want to know is that there's no delay from purchaser and should there is any potential of delays due to unforeseen circumstances, we are able to detect it before hand and inform vendor accordingly. If really "touch wood" delay, we will help purchaser to convince vendor not to charge on the penalty. <<< this is when you deal with REN.

But in the event you buy directly from vendor, then the person you can rely upon is your lawyer. As they are representing you, they will have to prioritize your best interest. They will have to make sure that they try their best to avoid any penalty. In normal situation, 3 months should be sufficient for drawdown. But sometimes if there's a lot of transactions in land office, there might be some delay. Your lawyer might not able to control them, but they can always check with relevant parties to ensure there's no delay.

You mentioned you keep pushing the lawyer, but most of the times, it's the legal clerk or admin clerk who do the job. maybe you can check with your lawyer and ask who is the one in charge of your case? Then instead of pushing your lawyer, you can follow up with the person in charge of your case. Treat he/she nice and ask for help ...


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post Nov 6 2020, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(shaoching @ Nov 5 2020, 10:44 PM)
Hi. Thanks for kind reply. May i know what mean by REN?
Im at the purchaser side. As its almost left 2weeks until the due date, my lawyer juz told me now they are sending the DOA to developer for endorsement. And im the one who always text the lawyer to ask for update. He just keep telling me in process.

May i know 2weeks are sufficient until the handover?
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REN = Real Estate Negotiator, a person hired by A real estate agency to represent the agency in works related to real estate transaction such as buy sell or rent. The actual meaning for Real Estate Agent in Malaysia means the license holder of the agency.

As I’m based in KK, there might be different in the timeline for process.. may I know if the property your are buying are still under master title or strata/individual title already?

Did you ask your lawyer if he can get it done before due date? Or if not, how will he help I’m not getting u to pay any penalty?
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post Nov 6 2020, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(shaoching @ Nov 6 2020, 03:51 PM)
the only answer that I always get from the lawyer was : Reply from bank, lhdn and developer is not within our control.
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hmm... your lawyer really... you bought it through agency or direct to owner? Who is this lawyer? Someone you know personally?
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post Nov 6 2020, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(shaoching @ Nov 6 2020, 04:12 PM)
through agent. but the lawyer I seek outside myself from internet.
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OMG... then this is the actual issue. Normally I would highly recommend buyer to get agent to recommend the lawyer they normally pass the cases to, so it will be easier to get the agent to follow up closely with the lawyer.
or if you have personal friend or relatives who is a lawyer then can engage too so you can follow up with them.

To get a lawyer from internet is very risky and you are now facing it.

Let me send you a PM on how you can talk to your lawyer on this matter ya.
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post Nov 7 2020, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(iOrange @ Nov 7 2020, 04:57 PM)
not sure if this is the right place to ask but here goes

generally speaking how long does it take for a piling process to finish? the said project is a 40 floor condo.
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Probably you can ask here for a better insights: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3381356

it can be from 6 months to 1 year depending on developer and contractor and weather condition too. (this is a reference based on some of the construction speed of condo in KK, Sabah)
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post Nov 8 2020, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(iOrange @ Nov 7 2020, 06:00 PM)
i signed a snp about 1 year ago so far from what i see they are still doing the underground work.. just curious is this the normal pace of a construction phase
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Normally for 40 floors the project should be more than 400 units right? I think I’m your SPA it should stated the construction period is 48 months? Or 36 months at least?
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post Nov 8 2020, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 7 2020, 06:10 PM)
There are many reasons why they are still stuck there and we as buyers are in no privilege to know as long the project is not due for vp.

If they are still working on the site, it should be consider WIP. Nevertheless, is good to monitor the progress.

I will guess you only paid the 10% and there is no further money disbursement yet for progress work.
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True.. since it’s progressive payment, then it shouldn’t be a big issue. As long as they don’t run away.
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post Nov 9 2020, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Nov 8 2020, 11:31 PM)
I guess not strictly a property related question, but thought I’d try.

I started my sole proprietor business Feb 2019, and I have filed my first form B tax return this year for YA 2019, and I have my business P&L. How many years of business account history do banks typically want to see before they feel they’re confident in your ability to service your loan?
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For sole proprietor, it will take at least 3 years as bank would require you to provide 2 years income tax statement. But of cos, if you have other source of income beside your business, eg a full time paid job, then you can also try to approach banker and try
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post Nov 9 2020, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Nov 9 2020, 01:46 PM)
Ah crap then I'm fresh out of luck. I don't have other source of income, but my income has been pretty consistent since incorporation of my business in Feb 2019. Last resort would be to ask my parents to put their name on the loan application also, but I'll be the one repaying in full. Does that usually work?
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If you have consistent income, then you can always try your luck with the bank your company having account with. Bank being bank... they loves to offer financial assistance to those with good track records, you can always give it a shot.

As for adding your parents name to the loan, if they are still working or having active income, why not?

Call your banker and talk to them if based on your current business income, can they offer you a mortgage facility,
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post Nov 25 2020, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(NySh3ng91 @ Nov 24 2020, 07:35 PM)
Hi, recently I have visited a project by Ideal Property Group : Queens waterfront. Anyone here know about this developer and their review please?
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Hi... not from Penang but here's some insights on the project

https://www.penangpropertytalk.com/2016/01/...ont-residences/

this was posted back in 2016 so you can have a look at the comment back then. But I would suggest to ask the locals about the project.

Developer background should be strong based on the amount of write ups all these years.
For location, it's best to check google earth on the surrounding as well as the people near to the area.
Check out what are the negative comments. Some people very critical in complaining about the project which turn out to be a good thing for new investors. For example, some locals will complain on how expensive compared to what they own now, but it's a good sign that price is increasing, if there's a good reason to it.

Hope this help.
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post Nov 27 2020, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Justinng343 @ Nov 27 2020, 12:26 PM)
Question:
1) How to evaluate how much will my property worth in the future, let's say in 35 years or so?
- No definite answer. It will depends on the development of the area, the maintenance of the building (especially high rise property), inflation, and many other factors.

2) How do I find out how much or the benchmark my property can rent out and what are the rental price around my surrounding area?
- Your best option are to check with your trusted REN/REA on the recent transactions or via online property portals to get an estimation of the asking price. Alternatively, you can also check in NAPIC website for the report of the last half year report. Now the H1 2020 is available for download.

3) Is there a website to see those benchmark other than asking the bank or survey the area?
- You can try these:
http://napic.jpph.gov.my/portal/web/guest/publication - mostly raw data and not up to date as they upload it for public every 6 months. The latest report for now is H1 2020.
https://www.brickz.my - private company. they purchase data from JPPH and sell it as subscription basis or sell per order basis. The data are more up to date than NAPIC report.

Thank you in advance  notworthy.gif
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Hope this help

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post Nov 27 2020, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Justinng343 @ Nov 27 2020, 04:12 PM)
Yes it does! Thank you.

"Your best option are to check with your trusted REN/REA on the recent transactions or via online property portals to get an estimation of the asking price. Alternatively, you can also check in NAPIC website for the report of the last half year report. Now the H1 2020 is available for download."
But what if it's a new or on going development? I planned to invest in a new develop condo. But not sure if is worth the investment, because I don't know how much is the rental price in the surrounding area. So what can I do?

*by the way, it's my first investment..
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Unfortunately, we do not have much information for developer's project except for the unsold units or overhang units. your best option is to check with REDHA for west malaysia, SEDHA for Sarawak or SHAREDA for Sabah.

Check out the blacklisted developers too to avoid any regrets.
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post Nov 27 2020, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Oklahoma @ Nov 27 2020, 08:53 PM)
Hi Folks, just wondering what's a strategy for a young person buying their first property.

Mid 20s, income around 5.3k nett. Joint income with gf around 8k nett

Should I get landed outskirt like semenyih and puchong (40km away from KL) or get a condo near KL? This is for own stay as I want to marry and move in with my gf smile.gif

Having a dilemma on which one to go for....

Hope to get your advise, thanks..
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Unless you are sure she is the one, else, do take into consideration on how to manage the properties in case there are changes in the relationship. A lot of people overlook this matter and face a lot of problems after that.

If everything ok, then your next question on landed in the outskirt of KL or condo near KL.

Based on experience, the best one I can share is speak and talk and discuss with your other half instead of asking in a forum. Not being skeptical but you and her will be the one staying and outsiders shouldn't give too much opionions.

You can take into consideration of these few pointers.

1. Both your current workplace - is it feasible for you to travel far for work everyday?
2. Both parent's home - distance especially when you both have kids, are the elderly going to help you out or you getting babysitter?
3. Lifestyle - living outskirt means you both might have to adjust your current lifestyle
4. Preferences - living on landed or living in high rise
5. hobbies - some hobbies required more land and personal space
6. others to be discussed with your gf .. some minor minor stuff but will be a deal breaker.

Hope this helps.
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post Dec 6 2020, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Coldfingaz @ Dec 2 2020, 11:18 PM)
Hey Yeoh, thanks for opening this topic and guiding us new to this! I have three questions for you:

1. Can you explain to me the process for buying a new landed development house? I've read some PropertyGuru articles on this and the confusion for me is where I (or my lawyer) would have to issue out a letter to state my purchasing the house. Is this still required for new developments?
Is this a under construction or completed property? If it's under construction, normally developer would have appoint their panel lawyers to manage the legal documents. When you decided to purchase, there will be a booking form or Offer To Purchase (OTP) form for you to fill and sign when you pay your booking fees. If you are buying from a marketing agency, do ask to meet up in the developer's office or sales gallery as I heard there are many scammers around the corner. (Unauthorized party trying to sell and collect deposit. Do avoid this. You can do due diligence or best is to sign and pay in the sales gallery)

2. Is the HOC campaign until May 31st 2021 or 2025? I have read somewhere that Stamp Duty is exempted until 2025, is that true or am I missing something?
HOC campaign is until 31st May 2021. Refer here for more info: http://rehda.com/hoc2020-2021/ As for the stamp duty exemption, it's for the first home buyer under 2021 Budget. For first time buyer who are purchasing residential properties up to RM500,000 they are exempted on the stamp duty for the instrument of transfer and loan agreement. Can refer here for more info: Budget 2021 Page 32-33 .. (for Sabah and Sarawak, it will be under SHAREDA and SHEDA but the rules for HOC remained the same ya)

3. Any recommended agency/lawyers for first-time house buyers? Perhaps those that are more... patient haha
This one I really can't help much. My recommendation is to speak to RENs and see which one you will be comfortable to work with. Most of them will have lawyers contact on hand. You do not need a lot of REN to help you, but only the one you feel comfortable to work together and you can put your trust in him/her. Ask them questions. Do not worry about having to ask too much questions. I personally have clients who has been asking me questions related to real estate for about 1.5 years before he decided to ask me to help him to look for suitable property based on his preferences and affordability. It's ok to ask, if the person find you being Mr Questions, then you know he/she might not be the one you need at this point of time.
Hi sorry for the late reply. Been busy for the past few days on some local projects.

Above is my reply in blue ya. I am not sure where is your location but I will reply based on Sabah market. Should be around the same but advisable to double check locally for a better assurance ya.

Hope the answer help you a bit.
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post Dec 6 2020, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Kaffatsum @ Dec 5 2020, 08:01 PM)
Hi TS. I am very new but im interested in buying a property for own stay.

Due to the pandemic, I am expecting more subsales to increase. What is the complete process of purchasing a subsale property?

Is there anything i should be aware of or take advantage of during these times?

Edit: I realized i should provide some better info. Please pm if you needed.
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Hi there,

sorry for the late reply. been busy for the past few days

Normally for subsale property transaction, it takes about 3 - 4 months to complete. But if it's related to government loan, it might takes even longer. I got cases that took as long as 1 year to get it done.

Beware of the GREED. No matter how cheap the property or how attractive is the property, always do due diligence. As a purchaser, you are entitled the rights to ask questions, and check properly on the property.

Take advantage of the opportunity, if you have done your due diligence and the deal is really good. Grab it and don't waste too much time thinking. (remember, do your due diligence first before you jump in).

Some people like to wait and see, but in the end what they saw is missed opportunities... They wanted to wait for price to drop further but someone else probably grab it.


Hope this help. if you need more information but prefer to talk in private, feel free to PM me. thanks
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post Dec 10 2020, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Coldfingaz @ Dec 9 2020, 08:02 PM)
This is immensely helpful to me. Thank you very much for taking the time to reply such a comprehensive answer!
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i hope it help in your decision making.

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