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loli_yat
post Oct 26 2020, 02:56 PM

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It's cute to see people bickering about last century's technology
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post Oct 26 2020, 02:57 PM

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Seiko box is more valuable than the watch
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post Oct 26 2020, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 26 2020, 01:48 PM)
Why you compare hand polish vs machined polished laugh.gif
Breguet banyak machine polished mark
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This.

Manual Polish vs Machine Auto Polish.


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post Oct 26 2020, 02:59 PM

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dis type hobby is bottomless $$$ pit
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post Oct 26 2020, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Oct 26 2020, 02:53 PM)
I have no idea TBH. I was sad it wasn't a Charizard, put it in a sleeve and socked it in a cupboard somewhere.

Can it be graded in KL? I'm currently stuck overseas due to the closed borders, but for 2k USD, might be worth taking a second look.
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but you have to be absolutely sure that it is a 1999 published 1st Edition pokemon card for that 2k USD price. If not, it's probably not worth more than a few hundred USD at best.

If yes, then congrats.. you should definitely get it graded.

I think the grading can only be done in USA. Can use services like this: https://www.carousell.sg/p/psa-grading-card...rvice-65657985/

to get help on sending your card to get graded.
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Oct 26 2020, 02:59 PM)
but you have to be absolutely sure that it is a 1999 published 1st Edition pokemon card for that 2k USD price. If not, it's probably not worth more than a few hundred USD at best.

If yes, then congrats.. you should definitely get it graded.

I think the grading can only be done in USA. Can use services like this: https://www.carousell.sg/p/psa-grading-card...rvice-65657985/

to get help on sending your card to get graded.
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Awesome. Thanks for the heads up. Something to look forward to next year rclxms.gif
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Oct 26 2020, 01:52 PM)
dumb people still collect watches after smartphone era? hahaha

sounds like people who still play golf or petangque when most of the people gone cycling already as a high-end sport
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huh

cycling is so last decade mang
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:09 PM

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got ktard said perlage what ever hand technique on GS is same level as VC/PP ker? kikikiki

in b4 mamak table
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Oct 26 2020, 02:56 PM)
wat wromg wif casio
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unker used to have a kolik, one time he complain his watch "san san dei", then unker ask him to send to casio to repair la
walao, he damn mad because he's wearing a seiko, from then on unker calls his watch a kesio (play of word for seiko = kesio = casio)
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 26 2020, 01:45 PM)
I have just found out that modern Grand Seiko Movements are mostly unfinished on parts which are not visible through the see through caseback. This is quite a disappointment since GS is trying to match Rolex in price and a lot of their fans claimed that GS is high end and on par with Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin but at a lower price point.

If they want to increase their prices, at least make sure all parts are finished equally.

Photos are taken from Watchuseek High End forum.

This is the movement plate for a Grand Seiko GMT.

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And below is the movement plate for a Breguet 5177.

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The biggest slap in the face is that an equivalent Breguet can be had for around the same price as a Grand Seiko in the preowned market due to massive depreciation on Breguet watches.
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Hmm..


GS 9S86
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drowning
post Oct 26 2020, 03:15 PM

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TS conlanfirm blind. Take a loupe and take a closer look into the so-called bland GS movement and hand.
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Oct 26 2020, 03:13 PM)
Hmm..
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loleks got See thru CB meh innocent.gif
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Oct 26 2020, 03:16 PM)
loleks got See thru CB meh  innocent.gif
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Oct 26 2020, 03:13 PM)
Hmm..
GS 9S86
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Rolex 3285
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I didn’t know that Rolex is considered high end and on par with Audemars Piguet..
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 26 2020, 02:01 PM)
Hand finished yes, but from the picture you show its obvious the hand finishing didnt apply on the surface of the back where you can still see many circular milled marks.
They try to make it look nice but its a cheaper way to "make it look nice". if it's hand finished, or if there are additional processing done after the CNC milling you won't see those marks anymore.

Honestly it's ugly AF because it looks very rough and you can see the circular marks inside each "scale".
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I rmb the marks are purposely machined onto the movement surface, it is there to catch if there are any dust/small particle in the movement so that it won't destroy the movement.
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 26 2020, 03:23 PM)
I didn’t know that Rolex is considered high end and on par with Audemars Piguet..
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I didn't know GS is on par with AP too, most i heard are ppl comparing GS with rolex jer biggrin.gif

Maybe they are talking about Credor?

This post has been edited by more2teayap: Oct 26 2020, 03:26 PM
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:26 PM

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thank you for the info. your contribution to this community is very much appreciated.
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:29 PM

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Only sohai buy GS.

True storeyz.
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Oct 26 2020, 03:25 PM)
I didn't know GS is on par with AP too,  most i heard are ppl comparing GS with rolex jer biggrin.gif

Maybe they are talking about Credor?
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post Oct 26 2020, 03:32 PM

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Basically TS ter-rasa people compare GS with his AP laugh.gif

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