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munak991
post Oct 25 2020, 06:14 PM

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These bunch of people who never go in kitchen before...

Yes Kitchen staff use barehand.
They taste the food before serve, so that to make sure ur food is ok.
Bunch of people expect the kitchen staff wear PPE and cook in that hit environment and serve at "cheap" price
I just feel people who complain much just don't dine out la
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post Oct 25 2020, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Oct 25 2020, 06:16 PM)
lol i cannot with this 😂
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There's 2 practice.

In school and practical we always have knife and small spoon in our chef pocket, so that we always able to taste the food we serve

But in Malaysia and real world culture , want it fast, and no one will reach for spoon, so they just use hand instead of spoon.

Seriously, u can't mix commercial prep food with Home cook la..

I seen so much I gave up, many go against what we have thought

This post has been edited by munak991: Oct 25 2020, 06:20 PM
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post Oct 25 2020, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 25 2020, 09:22 PM)
You must be better than Gordon Ramsay then

Because he himself said you can forget dining out at all if you don't want your food touched
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Kek this is Malaysia,
Good luck then
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post Oct 25 2020, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Asquith @ Oct 25 2020, 11:31 PM)
Malaysia no longer commands a good cafe or food culture. I have generally stopped following food reviews or food blogs as most have become gibberish junk. It is as bad as the car review scene in this country, most if not all are scripted by the person paying the bill.

Any cafes near a private college will never be good. Much of them rely on bank of FAMA to roll or provide the initial capital and their customer base also tends to be FAMA money. 90% of these types of patrons do not complaint if the quality is not reflective of the price or service levels are abysmal at best and this in turn basically allows these types of restaurateurs a carte blanche to serve rubbish food at over inflated prices.

Money laundering is definitely big in this industry, at one point I was told by a DSP that at least 70% of all eateries are very cleverly hidden money laundering operations.
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Yes, generally. U want good food
Don't go cafe
What they sell there is ambience and environment, not good food.
That's why go for specialise store. If they sell only one type of dish like burger, pizza, noodle. Means that's potentially good food.
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post Oct 26 2020, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 25 2020, 11:58 PM)
not entirely true

pj and kl used to have numbers of good restaurants but these days when nepali bangla viet taking over the kitchen... well... quality gone south but price goes up
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Yes, but if a shop specializes in something they will have some what of a standard ground but not always 100% true
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post Oct 26 2020, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Newsray @ Oct 26 2020, 07:56 AM)
1. A good chef doesn't need to taste the food during cooking, because he got more than enough experience/practice that he can cook with his eyes blindfolded.
2. A hygienic chef will always use a new spoon or tool to taste or test the food (if he really needed to).
3. A Covid SOP complianced chef will use facemask and proper PPE according to the ministry guideline.
4. A good business will listen to his customer feedback.

Munak991:I just feel people who complain much just don't dine out la.

Good point! And thats how people PUNISH failed business by going elsewhere.
But before that, the public should be alerted as well so they dont get the same bad treatment, No?

Edit: I also can cook without tasting. There is no need to taste if you know what you are cooking.
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QUOTE(andise @ Oct 26 2020, 09:18 AM)
you know right human already invented fork or spoon. so you don't need to use your finger to taste the food.
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Please... Take a step into Malaysia commercial kitchen...
If u do mind the hygiene... Like people here said 90% F&B don't f-care.
I highly disagree using hand to taste food, but mostly I see F&B will do this kind slight of hand.
Please just go in commercial kitchen and see....


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post Oct 26 2020, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Newsray @ Oct 26 2020, 10:05 AM)
As you said, it is the norm to be unhygienic and dirty in the F&B kitchen.
Nobody can deny that but that doesn't mean people/customer has to accept.
This is why businesses fail because customers will go elsewhere.

Things are not always perfect but at least others don't show it to the public/customer.
If you have an open kitchen and people can have a full view, dont you think it is STUPID to show people the dirty way of you handling food?

Instead of improving hygiene or at least not showing the bad side to the people, asking the public to accept DIRTY is not a good way for business.

when everything fails, the last thing you want is to shutdown the public voice because that is where the failure comes.
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Open kitchen concept is the most disadvantage for the kitchen staff. cause usually under stress to tune with the pace when order comes in, you'll sometime forget it is a open kitchen haha.

I personally work in buffet line. with Ala carte serving.

First thing, glove, then hats( must wear)
Then in MCO cases, then Mask.
In station we have 2 cloths, one for wiping surrounding , one is is with you or share a clean cloth for wiping plate/utensil
U'll usually see open kitchen concept, they just do cooking and plating there, most cutting and mise-en-place took place back end(some what dirty)

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post Oct 26 2020, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 26 2020, 10:25 AM)
Open kitchen concept is to bring transparency to both diners and chefs / cooks - its a trust and confidence factor.

Any chefs / cook MUST always withhold integrity when it comes to preparing a dish, be it local, western or some high atas dishes. A good chef always pride themselves with integrity to ensure the food is cooked well, safe from CONTAMINATION and taste & presented well.

For those who claim that this is the ‘real world’ - this is true, you can’t change people with no integrity to suddenly develop integrity. Do your part as a consumer, avoid these places like a plague. Unless, you don’t mind paying for contaminated food.
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Try telling "chef integrity" with RM 1.8k- 2.5k/ months salary
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post Oct 26 2020, 11:21 AM

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i give up, haha
Please continue expect Malaysian will change.

I strongly against, all these hygiene issue, I my self see it also will frown on it.
But working in this kind of industry, thats the truth.

I am just telling the truth


 

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