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post Nov 5 2020, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Zicoras1 @ Nov 3 2020, 08:40 AM)
Back in 2014 I invested in Anchorland property near Manila Bay. It was considered cheap. Paid 5k down payment and 20k every year for 3 years. You only had to apply for a loan 3 months before property completion. Sounds good but there was a few things I did not understand about Phillipines.

Foreigners cannot get loan but the developers can give your a loan it was offered to me at 9%! I did not understand how the rental game is played there. For the shoe box unit I bought they can fit 8 people in it. As it was close to casinos so you rent to people working there, they take turns sleeping there. As the rental game was too complex for me and I am not in Manila to oversee it I finally sold it before completion, something which you can do there. I did not understand why many agents approached me to sell it so I sold it with a 5% overall profit. Agent fees over there is 3 to 5%. I was charged 5%. What I did not understand I could have made 20% profit as these condos were bought by China people to clean their money.

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That is exactly what most foreign investors do in the Philippines, units that are owned by foreigners can only be sold to foreigners. I do not suggest to go for rentals unless you are considering to take loans from the bank.

What Ive been doing for the past 6 years is to go for flipping. (still working in the Philippines since 2012 though lol)
You pay for the reservation fees, and continue paying for the monthly amortization for 3 years (this is actually the downpayment to the developer). 1 year before the property completion (turn over) , we sell it to the Chinese people who will later use the unit for their staff. As simple as that.

There is no need to take for loans from the bank in the Philippines as you are not going to pay for the remaining balance, leave that to the Chinese buyer - your job is to pay until 30th - 36th month, then sell it off. If we have a spare of RM1200-1300 a month, it is wise to invest. Plus all the payments are made via the developer official website. No agents no third party involved.

Sorry to hear your loss - 5% was too little for a unit within Manila Bay area, especially with SMDC projects. Not really sure about Anchorland or other developers there, as Ive had no experience flipping with them.


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post Nov 5 2020, 10:34 PM

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post Nov 6 2020, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(S F @ Nov 5 2020, 07:04 PM)
That is exactly what most foreign investors do in the Philippines, units that are owned by foreigners can only be sold to foreigners. I do not suggest to go for rentals unless you are considering to take loans from the bank.

What Ive been doing for the past 6 years is to go for flipping. (still working in the Philippines since 2012 though lol)
You pay for the reservation fees, and continue paying for the monthly amortization for 3 years (this is actually the downpayment to the developer). 1 year before the property completion (turn over) , we sell it to the Chinese people who will later use the unit for their staff. As simple as that.

There is no need to take for loans from the bank in the Philippines as you are not going to pay for the remaining balance, leave that to the Chinese buyer - your job is to pay until 30th - 36th month, then sell it off. If we have a spare of RM1200-1300 a month, it is wise to invest. Plus all the payments are made via the developer official website. No agents no third party involved.

Sorry to hear your loss - 5% was too little for a unit within Manila Bay area,  especially with SMDC projects. Not really sure about Anchorland or other developers there, as Ive had no experience flipping with them.
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If one couldn't offload or funds to pay by 36hth month could loss all what has been paid.
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post Nov 6 2020, 04:15 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 6 2020, 02:42 AM)
If one couldn't offload or funds to pay by 36hth month could loss all what has been paid.
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This is where Maceda Laws play its role. You are entitled to get a refund for as long as you continuously pay for at least 24 months. The law covers sale of financing of real estate on installment payments, including residential condominium apartments, where the buyer has paid at least two years of installments. Even as a foreign investor, you are still protected by the Government of Philippines. smile.gif

More information: https://www.lamudi.com.ph/journal/eight-thi...the-maceda-law/

I have done several transactions myself without needing a third party on my part.


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post Nov 6 2020, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(S F @ Nov 6 2020, 04:15 AM)
This is where Maceda Laws play its role. You are entitled to get a refund for as long as you continuously pay for at least 24 months. The law covers sale of financing of real estate on installment payments, including residential condominium apartments, where the buyer has paid at least two years of installments. Even as a foreign investor, you are still protected by the Government of Philippines.  smile.gif

More information: https://www.lamudi.com.ph/journal/eight-thi...the-maceda-law/

I have done several transactions myself without needing a third party on my part.
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If buyer has nothing to lose until completion, there is no shortage of locals to snap all. developer is not in business for charity or at disadvantage; there is no free lunch.

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post Nov 6 2020, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 6 2020, 11:52 AM)
If buyer has nothing to lose until completion, there is no shortage of locals to snap all. developer is not in business for charity or at disadvantage; there is no free lunch.
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The developer is offering only 60 % of their inventory to locals - the rest for foreigners. The market I am in, and targeting. Developer is earning money through the transfer fees - which will be paid by the buyer. The buyer I am referring here is the Chinese business owner.


Buyer A, myself, buys the unit during pre-selling at RM100.
After 3 years, Buyer B interested with the project, buying from me saves him RM150, instead of directly from the developer which now costs RM300. Buyer A offers only RM150, and has only paid RM50 through out 3 years by monthly installments.

Developer charges transfer fees (Buyer B pays) while still getting money from Buyer B to finish the remaining balance of 50 that Buyer A hasnt paid, the price at pre-selling.
There will be association dues that you pay to the developer, on monthly basis upon completion of the project. (Since we are doing flipping, we do not need to pay for this one, leave it to Buyer B)

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post Nov 9 2020, 01:40 PM

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They have already started building - Philippines Mall of Asia, World's Largest Ikea. Source: https://sea.mashable.com/culture/12296/the-...-worlds-largest

Who owns Malls of Asia? It's the SM group.
Company's Annual Report: https://www.sminvestments.com/investor-rela.../annual-reports


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post Nov 20 2020, 09:25 PM

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For those who are interested , you can Whatsapp me and we can meet up while I am still in KL

My application to exit Malaysia end of this month, has just got approved a few days back by the immig.

This post has been edited by S F: Nov 20 2020, 09:26 PM
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post Nov 20 2020, 09:33 PM

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Malaysia have so many opportunities
No point to invest in another 3rd world country
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post Nov 20 2020, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(AgnesB @ Nov 20 2020, 09:33 PM)
Malaysia have so many opportunities
No point to invest in another 3rd world country
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Hi AgnesB Thank you for your opinion. The difference is Philippines isnt just "another 3rd world country" it is a developing third world country and they allow foreigners to own a freehold condominium there. In term of the GDP growth, these so called "3rd world countries" are among the highest in Southeast Asia, Viet / Philippines / Cambodia to name a few.

Again, I am only sharing what I have gained from doing this for the past 3-4 years, to each their own on how they want to invest or grow their money. And I am no way claiming myself a property/investment guru, just someone who's fortunate to have found this opportunity while working abroad smile.gif

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post Nov 26 2020, 10:29 AM

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This year's PropertyGuru Asia Property Award awards SM Development Corporation (SMDC) as The Best Developer in The Philippines for 2020. SMDC also accumulated 8 wins at the event, including the coveted accolades of Best Developer and Best Lifestyle Developer.

Source: https://www.asiapropertyawards.com/en/luzon...roperty-awards/

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post Dec 11 2020, 12:44 AM

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New project in Makati City was just launched, MYR1200 a month.
Mint Residences by SMDC.

E-Brochure: https://www.flipsnack.com/SMDCMarketing/min.../full-view.html
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post Feb 12 2021, 01:28 PM

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Hawaii-based planning, design and consulting firm Belt Collins lends its landscaping expertise to SMDC’s new, premier development, as the two real estate giants aim to create a refreshing living space amid the urban cityscape.

Link: https://smdc.com/belt-collins-for-smdc-mint...-a-masterpiece/
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post Feb 25 2021, 03:04 AM

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SM Development Corporation’s Gold City will give rise to an 11.6-hectare integrated premium development in Parañaque City, offering a gold ticket to fine living in a city residence.

Find out more about it: https://smdc.com/the-art-of-fine-living/
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post Mar 6 2021, 03:38 PM

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World's largest Ikea is on track to open in the 3rd or 4th quarter, in SM Malls of Asia (Manila Bay). Another great news for investors in the Manila Bay area. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/02/16/21/...uarter-official
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post Apr 4 2021, 04:45 AM

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Sands Residences right in front of Manila Bay. SMDC's recently launched residential project.


• 3.2 km to Malls of Asia and world's largest Ikea / Entertainment City
• less than 1km to Rizal Park and US Embassy
• 20 mins to Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA)
• 15 mins to Makati City


Monthly amortization of only RM 1,500 ++ (Premium units for our foreign investors!)


E-brochure: https://www.flipsnack.com/.../sands.../full-view.html
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post Jul 26 2021, 09:46 AM

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Ice Tower - Integrated within the Mall of Asia Complex, provides a perfect environment for entrepreneurs to flourish.

E-Brochure: https://www.flipsnack.com/SMDCMarketing/ice.../full-view.html

 

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