QUOTE(Antoine090607 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:10 PM)
Say I put in RM10,000 in a 10 year Malaysia Government AAA bond for a Coupon rate of 5% p/a over 10 years
So my money will be
RM 10,000 + 5% per year compounded for 10 years = RM 16,288.95
or ....
Is it RM 10,000 + 5% a year without compound = RM 10,000 + RM 500 p/a x 10 year = RM 15,000
Should be the second calculation.So my money will be
RM 10,000 + 5% per year compounded for 10 years = RM 16,288.95
or ....
Is it RM 10,000 + 5% a year without compound = RM 10,000 + RM 500 p/a x 10 year = RM 15,000
Bonds are complex because a 5 year annual coupon bond of 5% means your cash flow will be
| Year | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |
| Cash flow | -10000 | 500 | 500 | 500 | 500 | 10500 |
However, when you receive your RM500 coupon per year, you may or may not be able to invest at the 5% rate.
Therefore, can't really say it's 5% compounded per annum.
QUOTE(Antoine090607 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:10 PM)
From what I can see these are safer than Stocks but yield higher returns than FD but the catch is they are not guaranteed by PIDM
As for ETFs
Generally, higher bond yield means more risky. A 15% 5 year annual coupon bond does not mean it's good.As for ETFs
It can mean that the borrower will default and your cash flow will look like:
| Year | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |
| Cash flow | -10000 | 1500 | 1500 | 1500 | 0 | 0 |
You must also account for inflation to measure your real return.
E.g. Argentina bonds might pay 10% p.a. but their inflation is 30%.
QUOTE(Antoine090607 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:10 PM)
As for ETFs
It's basically buying a stock with a lot of different stocks in one basket
ie SnP500 contains Apple, Coca Cola , Microsoft etc in one stock
So it averages the stock price ... so it's well diversified by itself, correct me if I'm wrong here
S&P500 is not average of the stock price. It's an index. An index can be constructed several ways (e.g. price or market capitalisation).It's basically buying a stock with a lot of different stocks in one basket
ie SnP500 contains Apple, Coca Cola , Microsoft etc in one stock
So it averages the stock price ... so it's well diversified by itself, correct me if I'm wrong here
S&P500 follows market capitalisation. You cannot invest in S&P500 because it is just a calculation of the weightage for the basket of stocks.
You can only invest in an ETF that tracks the S&P500 index such as VOO.
QUOTE(Antoine090607 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:10 PM)
As for ETFs
So it averages the stock price ... so it's well diversified by itself, correct me if I'm wrong here
One person may say it's diversified, some may say it's not.So it averages the stock price ... so it's well diversified by itself, correct me if I'm wrong here
S&P500 is basically investing in US economy. If it tanks, it's not exactly diversification.
True diversification is investing in something like VTI ETF. This has stocks from all around the world.
Note that overdiversification can be a bad thing. It reduces gains.
While diversification is a good way to preserve wealth, concentration is often a better way to build a fortune.
Oct 20 2020, 10:12 PM

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