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Yggdrasil
post Oct 20 2020, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Antoine090607 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:10 PM)
Say I put in RM10,000 in a 10 year Malaysia Government AAA bond for a Coupon rate of 5% p/a over 10 years

So my money will be

RM 10,000 + 5% per year compounded for 10 years = RM 16,288.95

or ....

Is it RM 10,000 + 5% a year without compound = RM 10,000 + RM 500 p/a x 10 year = RM 15,000
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Should be the second calculation.
Bonds are complex because a 5 year annual coupon bond of 5% means your cash flow will be

Year012345
Cash flow-1000050050050050010500

However, when you receive your RM500 coupon per year, you may or may not be able to invest at the 5% rate.
Therefore, can't really say it's 5% compounded per annum.

QUOTE(Antoine090607 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:10 PM)
From what I can see these are safer than Stocks but yield higher returns than FD but the catch is they are not guaranteed by PIDM
As for ETFs
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Generally, higher bond yield means more risky. A 15% 5 year annual coupon bond does not mean it's good.
It can mean that the borrower will default and your cash flow will look like:

Year012345
Cash flow-1000015001500150000

You must also account for inflation to measure your real return.
E.g. Argentina bonds might pay 10% p.a. but their inflation is 30%.

QUOTE(Antoine090607 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:10 PM)
As for ETFs

It's basically buying a stock with a lot of different stocks in one basket

ie SnP500 contains Apple, Coca Cola , Microsoft etc in one stock

So it averages the stock price ... so it's well diversified by itself, correct me if I'm wrong here
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S&P500 is not average of the stock price. It's an index. An index can be constructed several ways (e.g. price or market capitalisation).
S&P500 follows market capitalisation. You cannot invest in S&P500 because it is just a calculation of the weightage for the basket of stocks.
You can only invest in an ETF that tracks the S&P500 index such as VOO.

QUOTE(Antoine090607 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:10 PM)
As for ETFs
So it averages the stock price ... so it's well diversified by itself, correct me if I'm wrong here
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One person may say it's diversified, some may say it's not.
S&P500 is basically investing in US economy. If it tanks, it's not exactly diversification.
True diversification is investing in something like VTI ETF. This has stocks from all around the world.

Note that overdiversification can be a bad thing. It reduces gains.
While diversification is a good way to preserve wealth, concentration is often a better way to build a fortune.

 

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