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post Dec 4 2020, 01:51 PM

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you will need 2 healer if you wan to clear spiral abyss
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Dec 4 2020, 01:35 PM)
Hmm considering diona can heal, idk if you need barbara. Maybe with other supports? Can farm some decent artifact for diona so she can ult faster and heal better I guess.

What are the character you have so far?
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right now I got mostly all the 4 star beside xinyan and chongyun, 5 star I only got klee

xingqiu C3, noelle C2, beidou C1, barbara C2, the other mostly C0

I have try them on low level domain to see if I like the play style, for a long time razor user beidou is hard to use for me, xingqiu feel alright but not sure if I should use him with physical damage bonus cup or not, I don't have any physical damage bonus cup at the moment, klee is difficult to play with for me, also I don't have any good crit rate and crit damage artifact so even my razor is low damage then normal player.
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:12 PM

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post Dec 4 2020, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Maxmiller @ Dec 4 2020, 02:06 PM)
right now I got mostly all the 4 star beside xinyan and chongyun, 5 star I only got klee

xingqiu C3, noelle C2, beidou C1, barbara C2, the other mostly C0

I have try them on low level domain to see if I like the play style, for a long time razor user beidou is hard to use for me, xingqiu feel alright but not sure if I should use him with physical damage bonus cup or not, I don't have any physical damage bonus cup at the moment, klee is difficult to play with for me, also I don't have any good crit rate and crit damage artifact so even my razor is low damage then normal player.
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thats actually a really huge pool to use and build teams.

rough workabout id say

team1: klee, xingqiu, sucrose (vaporize comp, build hydro on xingqiu for defensive benefit, thrilling tales and vv set on sucrose, 4th unit can be barb or any pyro for resonance buff)

team 2: Beido/razor, diona (superconduct comp)

team 3: Ninguang, Noelle
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Maxmiller @ Dec 4 2020, 02:06 PM)
right now I got mostly all the 4 star beside xinyan and chongyun, 5 star I only got klee

xingqiu C3, noelle C2, beidou C1, barbara C2, the other mostly C0

I have try them on low level domain to see if I like the play style, for a long time razor user beidou is hard to use for me, xingqiu feel alright but not sure if I should use him with physical damage bonus cup or not, I don't have any physical damage bonus cup at the moment, klee is difficult to play with for me, also I don't have any good crit rate and crit damage artifact so even my razor is low damage then normal player.
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benette!!! he's really strong he could even be a 2nd carry (if you don't like klee), he hits quite hard and pyro are generally a favored type in abyss.
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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Dec 4 2020, 02:46 PM)
benette!!! he's really strong he could even be a 2nd carry (if you don't like klee), he hits quite hard and pyro are generally a favored type in abyss.
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I heard people said you need few constellation on Bennett before he can be the main DPS, if not just a support DPS
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post Dec 4 2020, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Maxmiller @ Dec 4 2020, 02:59 PM)
I heard people said you need few constellation on Bennett before he can be the main DPS, if not just a support DPS
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Damage very low. Support also I put aside
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post Dec 4 2020, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Maxmiller @ Dec 4 2020, 02:59 PM)
I heard people said you need few constellation on Bennett before he can be the main DPS, if not just a support DPS
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idk, with some okay witcher's set my c0 bennette (bought him from shop last month) was hitting ~8k crits on E and ~18k crits on ult with vaporize and ~10k Es and ~25k Qs with melt comps. Possibly higher if I do lv him to match the mobs. His dps is actually pretty up there with 5*s dps. Not to mention he could heal and provide bonus buff.

If you have constellations then it would make him much stronger. Although c6 might cripple him, since he won't be able to melt after that biggrin.gif

So far, seems best with chongyun, but xingqiu is definitely great too.

QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Dec 4 2020, 03:10 PM)
Damage very low. Support also I put aside
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whattt nooooo... with his ult, his E is at a super spammable 2s CD. 10ks per hit? yes pls. And this is not even a very heavily invested char. Artifacts are ok at best

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QUOTE(eluna @ Dec 4 2020, 02:12 PM)


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This one I really don't know, maybe until I've invested in him a lot more but (ironically) I would take HIS word with a grain of salt. The moment he shows you the build and all, his zhongli (at least c4) and diluc seems to be pretty invested.

If someone is telling you a 5* character is good using so many constellations, run far away.


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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Dec 4 2020, 03:12 PM)
idk, with some okay witcher's set my c0 bennette (bought him from shop last month) was hitting ~8k crits on E and ~18k crits on ult with vaporize and ~10k Es and  ~25k Qs  with melt comps. Possibly higher if I do lv him to match the mobs. His dps is actually pretty up there with 5*s dps. Not to mention he could heal and provide bonus buff.

If you have constellations then it would make him much stronger. Although c6 might cripple him, since he won't be able to melt after that biggrin.gif

So far, seems best with chongyun, but xingqiu is definitely great too.
whattt nooooo... with his ult, his E is at a super spammable 2s CD. 10ks per hit? yes pls. And this is not even a very heavily invested char. Artifacts are ok at best
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I did though about it, ok, let's say I want to build him or klee, their is no way for me to get the witch's set because I don't have any character that can pass that domain, I have try it few time last night, some time I can't kill the red slimes in time, most of the time I can't kill the fire mage in time, my razor are too weak to fight them without my "E" and "Q", that is why I need another DPS, the timer of that domain too less, is like fight against time it self.

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QUOTE(Maxmiller @ Dec 4 2020, 03:30 PM)
I did though about it, ok, let's say I want to build him or klee, their is no way for me to get the witch's set because I don't have any character that can pass that domain, I have try it few time last night, some time I can't kill the red slimes in time, most of the time I can't kill the fire mage in time, my razor are too weak to fight them without my "E" and "Q", that is why I need another DPS, the timer of that domain too less, is like fight against time it self.
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just do co-op
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QUOTE(tohff7 @ Dec 4 2020, 03:50 PM)
just do co-op
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sometime got call me weak and kick me... cry.gif sigh.. I hate this game sometime
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OK im convinced...... time to extensively collect primogem to summon this husbondo.....
need him for spiral abbys for second team....
Using him alone can save all this precious mora/material
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post Dec 4 2020, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Rubypoyo @ Dec 4 2020, 04:05 PM)
OK im convinced...... time to extensively collect primogem to summon this husbondo.....
need him for spiral abbys for second team....
Using him alone can save all this precious mora/material
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before you pull do take note, he is saying all that but he's using a c4 zhongli with great gears

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post Dec 4 2020, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Rubypoyo @ Dec 4 2020, 04:05 PM)
OK im convinced...... time to extensively collect primogem to summon this husbondo.....
need him for spiral abbys for second team....
Using him alone can save all this precious mora/material
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I don't believe him, I think C0 is useless, but good luck to you.
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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Dec 4 2020, 04:07 PM)
before you pull do take note, he is saying all that but he's using a c4 zhongli with great gears
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QUOTE(Maxmiller @ Dec 4 2020, 04:11 PM)
I don't believe him, I think C0 is useless, but good luck to you.
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Ya but from the video, the damage output itself should be not much different even if using C0 zhongli, Ur just need right artifact on him......
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QUOTE(Rubypoyo @ Dec 4 2020, 04:20 PM)
Ya but from the video, the damage output itself should be not much different even if using C0 zhongli, Ur just need right artifact on him......
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So far using him for awhile at c0, well i wouldn't say that he's useless, his shield is pretty sweet. especially giving him hp% artifacts is kinda easy, but without that 5* spear and decent artifact substat rolls, don't expect your resonance to be significant.

the shield is really tanky no doubt, but i find it awkward to use in the middle of the combat simply because of how slow the E hold is (not lisa slow, but yea still slow). I guess you could compensate with great timing and all but if I have a great gaming sense it would be easier to run proper combo teams.

He is really fun to fight with, so I would suggest physical dps instead if you want damage output, that's ironically where he hits the best (because crescent pike is OP)
But you have to learn animation cancel to keep up with xiangling's physical dps.
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post Dec 4 2020, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Maxmiller @ Dec 4 2020, 04:11 PM)
I don't believe him, I think C0 is useless, but good luck to you.
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Yes. Zhongli c0 and c1 already huge different. C2 you can feel he is totally different character dy. So I don't believe what he say as well.

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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Dec 4 2020, 04:26 PM)
So far using him for awhile at c0, well i wouldn't say that he's useless, his shield is pretty sweet. especially giving him hp% artifacts is kinda easy, but without that 5* spear and decent artifact substat rolls, don't expect your resonance to be significant.

the shield is really tanky no doubt, but i find it awkward to use in the middle of the combat simply because of how slow the E hold is (not lisa slow, but yea still slow). I guess you could compensate with great timing and all but if I have a great gaming sense it would be easier to run proper combo teams.

He is really fun to fight with, so I would suggest physical dps instead if you want damage output, that's ironically where he hits the best (because crescent pike is OP)
But you have to learn animation cancel to keep up with xiangling's physical dps.
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LOL speaking of xiangling that's remind me, I just level her up to 61 for razor's support team for farming book in ice domain, I need alot of resistance and freedom book, character like klee barbara bennett razor amber diona... most of character I like is on mondstadt, too bad my xiangling is C0, now low on exp card...

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QUOTE(Maxmiller @ Dec 4 2020, 04:44 PM)
LOL speaking of xiangling that's remind me, I just level her up to 61 for razor's support team for farming book in ice domain, I need alot of resistance and freedom book, character like klee barbara bennett razor amber diona... most of character I like is on mondstadt, too bad my xiangling is C0, now low on exp card...
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Even at c0 xiangling is pretty decent as a physical carry because crescent pike is awesome with 2 glad + 2 bloodstain. But since you have razor, I'm not sure you want another physical carry. Klee might be better since you also have a good xingqiu, I heard he's like the only one who can keep up with klee for vaporize comp.

Its ok la, slowly lv them up, no rush hahaha. in 1.2 mihoyo giving incentives to level characters https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/news/detail/7170

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