last weekend i just got a saman at police roadblock because i was looking at my phone while driving, so the police issued me a saman, but it doens't state the amount, then at the bottom there is a remark, 'Kesalahan ini boleh/tidak boleh dikompaun', 'This offense is compoundable/not compoundable'

and i need to attend court at PJ on 30 Nov, is there anyway to settle this without going to court? and what's the fine amount?

cannot settle. you have to attend court.
Judge will decide how much is the fine.

dress down

stay humble

and plead for leniency infront of judge

charge you under what section?

I heard if cannot compound means go court rd. If they say you must go, then you must go

usually how much is the fine? if court is minimum 1k?

subsection 53(1) rules 2003

what's the process for that? and how much for the fine?

when i ask the police that give me saman whether this saman can be pay or not he say can, then when i get the saman the paper there write non-compoundable :x

This post has been edited by amduser: Sep 29 2020, 08:04 PM

Just go court or send rep, tell them
u wrong and ready to pay fine. Lawyer not necessary.

Max rm1k on 1st offence

https://amanz.my/2020246601/

read here, thread ke berapa dah

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5028120&hl=

and mine

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5003940&hl=

I dont think they will issue a summon if you were looking at the phone. Unless while driving you are holding the phone or texting.

Mate I wonder what will happen if the person "tak mengaku" lets take TS case, if the really wasnt holding the phone and was just looking. He can say tak mengaku guna phone semasa memandu and provide his explanation right. so would the case be moved to another day for hearing/?

I not sure, since i really talking phone. Maybe attn another court?

If tak mengaku why accept the saman?
Anyway usually police will not do that because its just wasting time they rather find guilty ppl atleast some willing to give them kopi.

And if u go court u dare to lie? Even if u dare im sure judge will believe police word than yours.

Im not referring to any lie, not sure why are you implying that.

All Im saying the police might have misinterpreted that you are using the phone, using TS example where he said he was just looking at the phone and a summon had been issued. So what happens then?

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Sep 29 2020, 11:54 PM

Well how do u look at phone when u are driving?
The term "using phone" is a loose term to describe holding phone regard less whether u are making calls, sms, FBing or whatever. As long as phone in hand is wrong.

If u say use Waze then should use holder and not holding phone.

Maybe I was not clear, when i mentioned look, meaning the phone was in the holder and you were looking at it; not holding on the hand. Definately holding on hand is no-no, anyone doesnt know that, better gantung lesen...hahaha

Want to challenge? Hire a lawyer la.

I was quite clear about what i said.
read again.

its very obvious difference looking at phone on the holder vs holding phone or talking on phone.

If you have a passenger to support your not guilty plea, then fight till the end and provided your passenger is willing to go with you to court everytime. Otherwise, the benefit of doubt is given to the enforcer.

In any court cases, witness or evidence is paramount.

Using phone while driving is usually a compoundable offense. Why not go to the traffic police station and enquire?

New rule cannot compound now

looks like need to install new cam to record yourself while driving in case police cum accuse you of things you're not doing.

but if you are, then no choice but to attend court and admit i guess. so now no more compound? straight go to court?

Bermula 6 Julai 2020, kesalahan di bawah kaedah 17A, LN166/59 tersebut telah dikategorikan sebagai saman tidak boleh dikompaun dan kes perlu diselesaikan di mahkamah.

Jika disabitkan kesalahan, hukuman denda boleh dikenakan sehingga RM1,000 atau penjara tidak lebih daripada tiga bulan. Sekiranya ia adalah sabitan kali kedua, hukuman denda sehingga RM2,000 atau penjara tidak melebihi enam bulan atau kedua-duanya sekali.

I keep replying such thread because i already kena

This post has been edited by PJng: Sep 30 2020, 01:36 PM

so even if i bring the saman and pay in police station also cannot la? compulsory must attend court?

I ask police say yes

Majority who received summons are guilty ... observed many using phone while driving. Some are 'caught' 100 meters away from roadblock and when realising a police operation infront, quickly throw the handphone on the passenger seat ... that is what my previous superior did while others are have traffic police tailing behind them.

Sometime just wondering why a phone call is so important while driving ...if is life matters, is 'worth' paying the fine to save one !

TS bring along a debit card. Only cash and debit cards are accepted iirc and the queue for cash payment can be damn long

they are not the same counter? but as usual with all gov department, everything slow

Good question, was paying for a relative and it seems the cash machine had issues. So i jumped ahead as i had a debit card. Cant remember if it was same queue or not.

i see is same counter, just saw ppl take credit card, staff say only local debit card, why special mention local word

Go court , mengaku bersalah and paid the fines lo
Normally 1st time get RM300, if you are repeated offender the fines might be higher. Overall progress less than 30 min

For RM100 compoundable saman, if I didn't pay and wait for 50% discount, need to attend designated court at specific date as stated in the summon slip?

This post has been edited by customer2: Oct 4 2020, 04:02 PM


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I got summon of using phone l, the police say need to go court... but the summon stated is compoundable...

I’m confused now

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Me too, summon stated is compoundable, but online cannot pay too.

You need to go to court. Phone offense while driving has been changed from compoundable to non-compoundable but the hardcopy summon may not have been updated yet.

mine also the same.. tried to pay at counter cannot.. end up went to court. quite easy the process.. prepare debit card or cash.. credit card cannot use

Do you need to appeal or anything? Or just go to court and pay right away.. and what time to go?

so any update?
got go court?
pay how much?

when the case has been explained by the jurubahasa, they will say u want to plead guilty or not. if plead guilty they will say do u want to appeal to reduce the saman or not..

so u say la economy ke or if u lose job ke ap ke.. the jurubahasa at my court siap teach how to appeal before judge comes in. once judge dah do the sentencing u just wait at counter to pay.


surely at ur summon it will state what time u need to be there. i suggest go earlier than that

when it's your turn, judge will call your name and read out your charges. then judge will ask you if you plead guilty or not. if you plead guilty, then judge will tell you how much is the compound. then ask u wanna appeal or not. just give sob story and usually judge will give discount if it's your first offence and if you behave properly. after that just go the counter and pay.

be prepared with more cash coz you'll never know how much the judge gonna give you. only cash ya. no credit/debit or ewallet there. if not enough money, you'll probably have to call someone to bring cash for you and in the meantime you'll lepak in the lokap. true story.

What happen if during court date, the court is closed due to MCO. I was told to get a new date at police station but I yet to do so..

Hey can i please ask how much u were fined for the using phone while driving offence?

RM300

judge gve me rm150.. might varies though

Hiyr fine around how much after attending court

my fine is 250 after attending court, depends on the judge

Hi guys. Unfortunately, got stopped by the police for using hp. He mentioned about the non-compoundable summon and need to attend court, took picture of the car, ic and license. However, he didnt issue any paper/saman, said all online now. May i know where to check? It didnt appear in MYEG. Or will only take some time to appear?

Try here www.jpj.gov.my/web/main-site/semakan-saman
usually they also will send letter to your house as well

lol 250 lucky can still appeal though

Dont worry la ts. U wont be the only one .

Go to court on that day usually got a few like u.

And they will ask us mengaku atau tak. I kena too.

They ask our salary and if wnt appeal.

I make 10k above. But only declare 5k. Then ask for appeal.

Judge usually give every1 same rate.

I kena 300 that day. Pay and wait .. then leave. They hold ur ic till end.

This post has been edited by badmilk: Oct 2 2021, 07:34 AM

Hi all, I got the same saman and the court keeps delaying the hearing date due to PPN.

I cannot renew my roadtax now because it is blacklisted. Although we are allowed to drive with expired roadtax until 31st Dec, but what if the court delays the date again and to year 2022?

I cannot drive my car anymore right? with an expired roadtax.

Really need help on this. Not that I don't want to pay the saman, not that I don't want to go to the court, not that I don't want to renew my roadtax. I feel so helpless.

Do you have any letter or printout to prove that the court date is delayed? Carry the letter in your car and show it if stopped in a roadblock. It may (hopefully) get you off.

No I don't have, I always call the Mahkamah Majistret to confirm for the date. Every time they will say postpone to a month later, this time is postponed to November, the 4th postpone.

kecian u really deserved it

Have you tried MYEG? Sometimes they don't follow blacklists.

Tried that, no luck.

just wana contribute....

actually those who caught by police for using phone when driving, didnt request for "tolong"? So good citizen want take up the saman?

i kena once, wana settle with RM20, they look down at my RM20, then RM50, they said naik sikit, finally settled in RM70.... damn, nowadays the tolong fee is so expensive... i drive myvi je...

check at mybayarsaman, have to register and log in .

i just kena 1 pc today ... it said non-compoundable

can check online mybayarsaman, the details is in the system now , but no amount can be pay . i guess must attend court Majistret PJ... aduh...

Act pity dress down usually don't charge crazy. Usually alot ppl with similar offense will be around so u just watch what the judge charge others usually about the same.

How fast do they update the system online? I kena tangkap this morning but until now mbayar got no details.
I didn't receive any ticket pun.

you kena tangkap but not receive any ticket ? the police need to issue you ticket on the spot and update within a week time in the system.
on the ticket, usually have the date/time when to appear to the majistreet court..

yaa I didn't receive ticket.
so.. maybe those fellas really looking for bribe, because they were kinda hinting to me. But I said "takpe, bagi saman saje".
And this guy told his partner to give back my IDs and give saman.

but no, I didn't receive anything so I thought maybe it will be sent to me in the mailbox.
right now 10.50pm still nothing on mybayar still...

of course u must attend the court did u not know the rules now which for your compound need to settle at court

Thats one month back most likey already attens court.

By the way what happen to your ori acc?

lel u know my ori acc? donno what happen all out of sudden cannot login anymore need to verify again since i use old email

Try request at help desk

most likely no summon then, for non compounding summon, the officer need to give the summon to you on hand, on the spot.
else all also will say not receive or sudah pindah if sent to mailbox.
Its your lucky day, then.

Earlier than that meaning same date but earlier in time?

yup. be as early as possible. because they will lineup many cases at a time. atleast u get ur judgement early ..

Wew
After reading this thread
only I move my ass to check my saman(s)

I got one NC (using phone) on 08/09/2020

How fucked up am I?

Advice?

Find on FB there is a page doing a runner job to help you clear saman, even NC one

Anyone tried using the new system where you can mangaku salah online ? I wonder if I do that, the fine would be higher since I don't get to tell my sob story.

I kinda checked. I think it is not valid for NC saman

Hmmmm... Not too sure but the one i received today can be paid.... So should i pay first or hadir to court as per the harcopy??

eh how do you arrange for the hearing? Can just walk in? no need to set up anywhere?

Pls follow on saman date and time
When i kena, no walk in

It's a saman dated 2017 lol
He missed it for a couple of years

On a serious note, how can we arrange for the hearing now?

Better try visit balai to ask
Or go to court ask how to get new date

dai sei play phone while driving. what an ass. the idiots i hate most on the road.

Today I got a saman, just ngam ngam in a traffic jam n check Whatsapp... mana tau got polis saw me at the side near some bushes, in front was a road block.

Give me a non-compoundable saman... need go hearing in May... sien dou sei....! I almost wanted to ask him janganlah bang etc, tolonglah bang etc... but takut nanti he give me a bigger saman for bribing them!

Hope I can pay only RM150 ... sienz. Already quite broke.

You are contributing to bribe culture.

We keep hearing people complaining how our country is doomed due to corruption and here we have people like you openly teaching others how to bribe one's way out.

How many ppl actuali dutifully go court over such small isu? Why x allow ppl pay @kaunter / online je?

Wat happen if ppl x attend court?

V shouldn’t make a mountain out of mole hole. Sikit2 saman, sikit2 tangkap… Is tis a perihatin and democratic country?.. After a couple of times nasihat/warnings only gif saman baru perihatin. Mcm la rakyat x poor enuf!

If you're too poor to attend court to pay fine, don't break the law.

Berani buat berani tanggung.

If you think the law is unjustified, challenge it in court.

Eh wait. Check phone at traffic light also cannot?

Just wanna share my exp on this also. Answered call and holding phone. Then police stopped and gave me this summon, also said none compoundable and ask me go court.

Ok lo, then the court supposed to be yday. Weekend? I called and no one picked up also. So I didn't go.

Today I went to Magistrate Court. The police traffic there told me, court system don't have my case. Ask me go police traffic and ask them to key in. So ok, I went to police traffic. Immediately one of the police there told me, can help me settle it. Even googled n say u see, if go court, 1k u know, I can help u settle, and u don't need to go court dah. And name not in system. And I gave in. He even give me his number and bank acc number. I'm not sure if this is consider as Saman or what. He say I will receive the invoice.

if I'm not mistaken they already mentioned, yes, check phone at traffic light also cannot.

can we go earlier than the date itself?

Want to know this too

Based on what im told u can just go any monday or wednesday morning, just show the counter your saman and then u will be given a number then start queing and wait for the court to open 9:30 like that then go in tell the judge u salah and pay rm300 fine

Doesnt have to follow the dates given but if you missed the given date by dunno how many months then your ic will be blacklisted and you will have to pay the max saman which is rm1k

Cannot ask for discount?

No chance for rayuan or discount at least from the person who experienced this told me. All also kena rm300

cool, gonna try settle it as early possible.