QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 15 2020, 09:32 AM)
actually what i am looking for is a hardtail 24...i think the MIA ones i think discontinued already...while they never made them for SE.
i think the mark holcomb is hardtailPRS Custom 24 USA made
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Oct 15 2020, 10:42 AM
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Make sure to try and compare the CE with Cores and S2s.. unfortunatley I dont like the CE
QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 15 2020, 09:32 AM) actually what i am looking for is a hardtail 24...i think the MIA ones i think discontinued already...while they never made them for SE. i think the mark holcomb is hardtail |
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Oct 15 2020, 11:05 AM
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Oct 15 2020, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 15 2020, 11:05 AM) strat style HT not good meh lolyears ago i had a SE soapbar with non adjustable stop tail.. the simplicity is good but limited height and intonation adjustment really hampered the setup. end up selling it which is sad cause that's a nice feeling guitar |
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Oct 15 2020, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Oct 15 2020, 11:23 AM) strat style HT not good meh lol by right stop tail is radiused to the fretboard... so shouldn't be issue of limited height.. years ago i had a SE soapbar with non adjustable stop tail.. the simplicity is good but limited height and intonation adjustment really hampered the setup. end up selling it which is sad cause that's a nice feeling guitar the first one shown of cos no issues with intonation as it's just like a tuneomatic... the second one sure limited... but decent la... old man guitar... not for widdly widdly woo. |
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Oct 15 2020, 04:56 PM
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yeah it was similar to the second one with not adjustable saddles.
the thing is after a certain height/length the whole bar will shift at an angle towards the headstock, im not sure the core models have this issue or not. the whole setup seems was intended only for .09 strings i remember in the 2000s i look at those bridges and i thought wow so shiny n elegant. but after this experience i was like..prob not again.. im sure there are much better stop tails design now thoughs.. and 2020 LP specials has stoptails...hmm |
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Oct 16 2020, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Oct 15 2020, 04:56 PM) yeah it was similar to the second one with not adjustable saddles. actually stoptails have been on gibsons since 1950s... the thing is after a certain height/length the whole bar will shift at an angle towards the headstock, im not sure the core models have this issue or not. the whole setup seems was intended only for .09 strings i remember in the 2000s i look at those bridges and i thought wow so shiny n elegant. but after this experience i was like..prob not again.. im sure there are much better stop tails design now thoughs.. and 2020 LP specials has stoptails...hmm not sure why the bar would shift...or is it the bridge posts that are tilting? ie. not deep / stable enough when raised higher? |
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Oct 16 2020, 12:12 PM
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lol i know.. just interesting they went back to stoptail for production models. it should be interesting to see the difference. I do prefer the lok with fewer parts..
For the prs if i remember right there were intonation screws at both ends of the stoptail. once i had heavier strings in the stoptail has to be adjusted further back for intonation but once there the post doesnt hold the bar firm enough so it will shift up. |
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Oct 17 2020, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Oct 16 2020, 12:12 PM) lol i know.. just interesting they went back to stoptail for production models. it should be interesting to see the difference. I do prefer the lok with fewer parts.. not sure why it would tilt tho...For the prs if i remember right there were intonation screws at both ends of the stoptail. once i had heavier strings in the stoptail has to be adjusted further back for intonation but once there the post doesnt hold the bar firm enough so it will shift up. cos the flared out bridge post head should be preventing that...unless the head is not wide enough...or still got some play between the bottom of head and top of bridge... ![]() This post has been edited by Everdying: Oct 17 2020, 10:37 AM |
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Oct 19 2020, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 17 2020, 10:36 AM) not sure why it would tilt tho... yeah.. i think its BOTH of that. bear in mind that was a SE model so USA bridges probably much better. cos the flared out bridge post head should be preventing that...unless the head is not wide enough...or still got some play between the bottom of head and top of bridge... ![]() Some PRS also has TOM style bridge eg. the recent 594s, should be more versatile no? |
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Oct 19 2020, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Oct 19 2020, 10:54 AM) yeah.. i think its BOTH of that. bear in mind that was a SE model so USA bridges probably much better. TOM should be ok...but SE also dont have 24-fret with those Some PRS also has TOM style bridge eg. the recent 594s, should be more versatile no? for me i just dont like those individual / fender style saddles...cos quite hard for me to palm mute on them. also when setting up...i very lazy to use radius gauge. |
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Oct 21 2020, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 19 2020, 11:10 AM) TOM should be ok...but SE also dont have 24-fret with those Have you tried them though? PRS trem are very comfy compared to strats and their radius are pretty flat.for me i just dont like those individual / fender style saddles...cos quite hard for me to palm mute on them. also when setting up...i very lazy to use radius gauge. I dont use radius gauge to setup but i probably should.. downloading from pikguardian now.. i kept thinking why not many metallers use PRS.. Opeth in the 90s are a beautiful thing. |
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Oct 21 2020, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Oct 21 2020, 12:20 PM) Have you tried them though? PRS trem are very comfy compared to strats and their radius are pretty flat. never... also don't like the idea of extra moving parts and trem / spring cavity etc...cos more wood is always good I dont use radius gauge to setup but i probably should.. downloading from pikguardian now.. i kept thinking why not many metallers use PRS.. Opeth in the 90s are a beautiful thing. metal got la using PRS... but also i think maybe is just PRS not much money to support artists compared to others. |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 21 2020, 01:06 PM) never... also don't like the idea of extra moving parts and trem / spring cavity etc...cos more wood is always good You saw the new Gibson Iommi sig SG? it has a stop tail too.metal got la using PRS... but also i think maybe is just PRS not much money to support artists compared to others. A bit gassing for an SG now.. kinda regret selling mine |
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Nov 2 2020, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Nov 2 2020, 12:35 PM) You saw the new Gibson Iommi sig SG? it has a stop tail too. i had the v1 Epi Iommi SG before...i also had a Gibson SGJ with 24 frets...A bit gassing for an SG now.. kinda regret selling mine i still got a 24-fret SG but it has a schaller floyd...part of me wants to block it...another part wants to fill up the cavity and put a TOM... but im doing a conscious attempt to move away from those and try a diff brand... This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 2 2020, 04:08 PM |
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Pretty cool no? except the price of course.. You're an SRV fan right? Why not a strat hahah This post has been edited by quarantined: Nov 2 2020, 07:44 PM |
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Nov 2 2020, 11:02 PM
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the monkey is ok la...i knew a guy who custom made one for iommi years ago before gibson came into the picture also.
it's essentially a 64 special... nothing really great strat...is...a...bit...boring... unless is a kramer baretta... btw, the only SG i got GAS for is this...Epiphone SG Classic Worn P-90s...RM1630... first SG in like 17? yrs to come without that stupid veneer...has a proper 2-pc body... This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 3 2020, 12:22 PM |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 2 2020, 11:02 PM) the monkey is ok la...i knew a guy who custom made one for iommi years ago before gibson came into the picture also. who? im looking for good luthiers tooit's essentially a 64 special... nothing really great strat...is...a...bit...boring... unless is a kramer baretta... btw, the only SG i got GAS for is this...Epiphone SG Classic Worn P-90s...RM1630... first SG in like 17? yrs to come without that stupid veneer...has a proper 2-pc body... the new epi SGs are cool too.. been wanting to try one. Didnt know they used veneer in the past..yuck but 2 piece is a good move. Pelham blue is nice too |
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Nov 6 2020, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Nov 5 2020, 05:24 PM) who? im looking for good luthiers too in US la...the new epi SGs are cool too.. been wanting to try one. Didnt know they used veneer in the past..yuck but 2 piece is a good move. Pelham blue is nice too but veneers is a china thing.. even on the LP they put veneers... obviously top has always been flame maple veneer... but they also put maho veneer at back to make it look like 1pc... that's why the only mic epi LP i looked at are solid colors like the matt heafy... gothic...or pelham blue... until this SG came along... |
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i dont mind US too if they're good.. still doing orders?
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