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post Jun 23 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Depthcharge101 @ May 22 2008, 09:48 PM)
Hm not bad, I like it. Pace is slow, but superb music (Kajiura Yuki), and ungodly animation seriously.....

Look forward to next ep...
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i downloaded this the moment subs release it, but only watched it today ROFL
anyways...

yeah the ending theme of yuki kajiura brought back nostalgic mai hime dramatic music biggrin.gif
animation was so so until the fight scene, with awesome camera view, good detailed animation to back the 360 degree angles.
what got me so hooked is the sound, and you prolly guessed it. it sounds SUPERB on 5.1. especially the first encounter of that ghost, omg the whispers coming from behind, creepy. then pushing onwards the fight scene... just, wow.

and the best part? the BGM is all fully surround supported with the choir singing from behind while the music playing from front and during those epic camera movements the song follows suit. even the ending yuki kajiura performance was made surround-tastic (if thats even a word tongue.gif)


Added on June 23, 2008, 11:12 pm
QUOTE(wolfx @ May 25 2008, 02:46 PM)
Touko > Aoko? But dolls are creepy anyway.

Lulz Shiki > Tohno....this much i'm certain from the 1s movie. The animation for that part was awesomez. And can i can really appreciate Kajiura's music for that scene.

Lots of BLABLABLA and philosophical mumbo jumbo about suicide.... not too had to decipher for the godly otaku but might be lost on more mortal viewers.

Not much was said on what happened to the spec guy...spirited away or something....but the whole movie seemed to be done in a cryptic way anyway.
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you need to surround sound it (if you havent) and kajiura will be over 9000 thumbup.gif


Added on June 23, 2008, 11:14 pm
QUOTE(Fyonne @ May 26 2008, 09:35 AM)
da soundtrack is done by Yuki Kajiura, known for it operatic + chant/choir in her music XD
love her music since Mai-Hime (sub-conciously since .hack though)
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spot on. mai hime smile.gif
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Added on June 23, 2008, 11:15 pm
QUOTE(wolfx @ May 26 2008, 09:56 AM)
Since Noir (i think its her debut), Yuki Kajiura's music has been kinda hit and miss for me. Can't say i like most of the songs. But KnK's music is less Kajiura-ish thankfully and more fitting for them movie.

AND OH NOES.....THE FEYMES QUOTE IS BACK....
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as i said, surround. maybe its less "kajiura'ish" without the surround (assuming you didnt have em) but to me, woah, it was TOTALLY screaming mai-hime XD

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post Jun 24 2008, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Jun 24 2008, 08:13 AM)
PEOPLE DIE IF THEY'RE KILLED! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THIS NO BRAINER? CLICHE!
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i lol'ed


Added on June 24, 2008, 9:23 am
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 24 2008, 09:06 AM)
i lol'ed
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well, in her defense, you "kill" a person, he can become a ghost and "not die" rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 26 2008, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Jun 26 2008, 05:52 PM)
mai hime sux. dun scream Kajiura with mai-hime.
THIS IS KAJIURAAAAAAAAAAA~!!
*kick Quazacolt into endless bukakaked pit.
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mai hime sucking or not has no relation that kajiura's music is awesome tongue.gif
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post Jun 29 2008, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Jun 28 2008, 12:04 AM)
Nothing much happened in vol 2. Nice atmosphere done with the music and visuals i give them that. But mere mortals will walk out of this movie unsatisfied i'm sure.

And does Kokutou's char get any more interesting later on? He seems to be fitting into "typical eroge main character who can't leave you alone" archetype too well. Even after witnessing a possible murder and almost getting possibly killed himself. Idiot.

I'm still giving it a chance till vol 3-4.
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pretty much same feeling after watching ep2 today.
i think hardcore/loyal fans would like ep2 as it has quite a deep storyline, but to those thats unfamiliar with typemoon storyline (like me, that never watched tsukihime/fate series) just seriously wont know wtf is going on.

like the entire duration i was like... HAY GUISE WTF IS GOIN ON?!?!!?


Added on June 29, 2008, 2:29 am
QUOTE(wolfx @ Jun 28 2008, 05:24 PM)
I don't.

And do not wish to be spoiled.
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totally stealing my thunder wolf, but yeah QFT on this.

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post Jun 29 2008, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Jun 29 2008, 06:21 PM)
coz clueless ppl ask the question, n ppl who read it just answer it.
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still doesnt mean you could just be an ass and spoil it for everyone.

that said, i do realize this is the internet /shrug
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post Jun 30 2008, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Jun 29 2008, 10:41 PM)
i didnt spoil nething at all. im just say that u guys ask, n someone answer. n so who to blame i also dunno. the one who ask or the one who answer his question whistling.gif
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not saying that ur spoiling anything, more to correcting that even though someone ask something, doesnt mean the person that answer it can just spoil it for others that didnt ask the question by not putting a spoiler tag.
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post Jul 24 2008, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Jul 24 2008, 10:35 AM)
DA /K/OMRADE! DOWNLOADING NAO!
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already done downloading kek
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post Jul 24 2008, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Setsuna-san @ Jul 24 2008, 10:58 AM)
Internut has been capped. downloading has failed. will resume offensive later.
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GET VPN UNDERGROUND TUNNEL FACILITY COMRADE! DO NOT FALTER TO THE ENEMIES
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post Jul 25 2008, 02:00 AM

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umm nice episode, pretty nice fight scene as they were both "equal" (in the sense that shiki's opponent has powers, unlike first ep, lol ghost is lol, 2nd ep... kokutou doh.gif doh.gif )
5.1 were pretty awesome, as usual. although for this episode it sorta slacked, the best effect of this were done ON A DAMN DOOR doh.gif doh.gif (27:39 from gg-takajun subs to be exact)
ending theme was awesome, 2nd one wasnt so catchy, so 3rd i suppose was a good redemption. all in all i still prefer 1st, but this one's all good by itself

and main attraction.... wub.gif FUJINO wub.gif
nice body too. im sure kokuto wouldnt mind starting up a harem, despite that she got violated early on by so many shitheads. but hey, that onyl means she got experience now rolleyes.gif

and lolwut i killed teh appendix, so like, since shiki can kill anything even god, she could be the ULTIMATE DOCTOR?! "oh hai thar, you has aids? here letme stab it"
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post Jul 25 2008, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Jul 25 2008, 07:50 AM)
shiki can even kill the poison u drank n save u. how fail are u neway for not knowin this?
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cuz im not a typemoon longtimer fan? lol (been mentioned from the beginning of this thread)

but at least the plot/storyline thus far isnt too hard on the non typemoon followers. episode 2 isnt such the case though but thats just one ep outta 3 thus far and theres 4 more to make it good.
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post Jul 25 2008, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jul 25 2008, 09:05 AM)
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post Aug 2 2008, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Jul 31 2008, 08:28 AM)
I kinda forgot about Shiki's and SHIKI by the time i watched ep 3. I can't remember much about what happened in ep 2 anymore.... so i guess that's where the non-linear storytelling fails and is more for the T-M fanbois. But I did catch the last bit of ep 3 where Toukou promises to make Shiki a hand that can catch spirits, which led us to the suicide ghost in ep 1.

So like, her red leather jacket got messed up.....and i thought it was something important she bought in ep 2...and it reappears in ep 1, so i guess she bought a new one then? @_@

So Shiki's eyes basically can kill anything including Fujino's spiral energy as long as its used enough till she sees it?

LOL Toukou should've mentioned the client was her dad since the beginning, then Kokouto didn't have to go all the way down to that village for information gathering?

I don't really get KnK....but it sure is pretty in red. wink.gif
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but yeah the storyline is rather confusing a bit especially when the gap between movie releases/sub releases etc etc that further worsens the already confusing storyline.

but yea, regardless of the storyline, its still a good treat for your senses with its good audio/visual biggrin.gif
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post Aug 2 2008, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Enma Yamo @ Aug 2 2008, 12:04 PM)
well since this is another type-moon creation...i watched it as well xD
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im not in particular a typemoon fan but im cool with this smile.gif

heck i never watched the fate series/tsukihime
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post Feb 6 2009, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Fyonne @ Feb 1 2009, 08:56 PM)
its all bout spiral minus Dai Gurren Dan n gattai in it.
the way they compose the show is good though.

n Azaka is pissed coz her brother would gay for Shiki if Shiki is a guy.

Shiki at after credit is cute. wub.gif
n still need more azaka
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just watched it.

what you said.
and... honestly, this is a huge let down. (not as great as ep4 did, and dont get me wrong, it is a good episode, but with all the hype surrounding it and it being 2 hour... it wasnt as good id hope it to be)

the surround sound effects was "slacked off", episode 1-3 was WAAAY BETTER. like the zombie fighting scene, that was a GOOD chance to play with surround sound effects with shiki "dancing" amongst canon fodders. sadly, slacked off with heavy BGM, and EVEN THE BGM, was rather weak.

again, KnK was main attraction is its lore, but to people that arent "hardcore" typemoon fans for its lore (or the style of it), its just very hard to hold a strong attraction. what got me hooked to this? the visuals and mainly, surround sound. 1-3 had it all, ep4 blew it, hoped for ep5 to make a comeback, while the visuals was GREAT (imo the best amongst the 5), the audio was lackluster.

last fight, awesome. but to sit through almost 2 hours of "lolwut" lore and mediocre action for that last battle, imho, not worth it. redemption? shiki's dere face at the end.


Added on February 6, 2009, 11:28 am
QUOTE(wolfx @ Feb 3 2009, 12:38 AM)
Movie could've been shorter if it didn't skip all over the place so much. If you thought Knk series' timeskips was annoying, then what would you think if the whole 2 hours of ep5 was timeskips?

I don't find any reason why the narrative should be done this way. I'm sure the book wasn't this way either. Was it probably just to be pretentious and to be "in-theme" with the whole rassen philosophy or perhaps to depict insanity? Story would've been better if it was linear.
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EXACTLY.

had they made it into maybe a 1hour 30min or around that duration and cut down on the needless skipping/flashback/PIME TARADOX, it would've turned out rather great imo.

the "episodic" time skips i can accept, but dayum 2 hours of it within the episode itself, wow...

AFAIK, from the people mentioning in this thread (namely fyonne), the novels is written in this way, so if they wanna preserve it, this is what we get. again, im TOTALLY FINE with keeping it the same with the original novels, but you can IMPROVISE to make it more friendlier to non "hardcore" typemoon fans.


Added on February 6, 2009, 11:29 am
QUOTE(Setsuna-san @ Feb 3 2009, 12:38 PM)
an epic 2 hours if i might say so.
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gundam 00 ep17 > that with ~20mins. very huge let down.

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post Feb 10 2009, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(Silencers @ Feb 8 2009, 06:49 AM)
One thing I found a bit quirky. Tomoe's mother. In the repeated cycles, she stabs her neck after she stabs Tomoe. Which would mean she'd die in Tomoe's room.

Yet her 'real' corpse is in the living room. A tiny plot hole, or the repeated cycles have a 'slight' variation to reality?


Added on February 8, 2009, 7:14 am

Sadly, I have to agree with the sound not being emphasized enough in the zombie fight. As far as the lore goes, KnK has always been a cult thing. I doubt it was actually targeted at mainstream audiences. The fact that it only derived a fandom from the light novels (and fans who simply gorge down anything type-moon makes - like me), and ludicrous amount of talk goes enough to say that it was purely intended for the fans.

A similar case would be the Ghost in the Shell franchise. You either be part of the fandom and read the lore yourself [like depthcharge], or you can choose to stay confused and feel ripped off. [well, those who paid to see it at the jap cinemas, that is]

/off topic

Come on, Gundam 00 ep17? You saw that coming MILES away. Calling that better than 2 hours of brainf***ing padarox is simply unjustified, lol.

Kyon: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/378549...d-fura-hair_orn
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storyline/lore aside, what it provided there was much better than what a cinema/ova/movie production 2 hour show - knk 05 ever did. hell, the emulated surround sound was much better than knk 05's pure surround sound (pretty much just the last fight, seriously).

the only thing that was notebly worthwhile from that 2 hour was the last fight, and the dere shiki face, and quite frankly, 2 hours for those 2 wasnt quite justified to be worthwhile.
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post Feb 10 2009, 12:11 PM

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Though he is naturally more powerful than both Araya and Tōko, he is blinded by his arrogance and is not nearly as versatile as they are.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_no_Kyoukai

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this part makes me hate ep5 more. damn you wiki.
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post Jul 31 2009, 09:52 AM

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as raged on tfm chat:

ep6....
SNOREFEST FOR 40+ MINUTES
for 3-5minutes of action.

/hang

and the 5.1 action?

- doorslams
- footsteps
- rain
- that short lived battle
zzz

and azaka being a heat(lol?) wielder, using dodge instead of just burning those lousy fairies, i lol'ed.

the starting "fire prohibited" + the rio/lio is even better than the actual ep6... and thats pretty damn sad. :/
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post Dec 16 2009, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Dec 11 2009, 09:13 PM)
LOL wincest? shocking.gif
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post Apr 26 2010, 01:49 PM

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good luck. lol
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post Sep 1 2010, 01:49 PM

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yeah a friend of mine in despair of that news few days ago. as for me, i still need to collect season one of maiwaifu, so this one is a definite pass for me :3

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