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ar188
post Dec 23 2007, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 22 2007, 04:26 PM)
Used to be distributed by Tat Chuan. However, I might doing a bulk for this. Still waiting for the quotation from them.
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yeah keep us posted.. biggrin.gif check price for SR705 also..
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post Jan 11 2008, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 11 2008, 12:22 PM)
I would take Yammy over Onkyo anytime and some said the Onkyo runs very very hot....
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wei, of coz I would also like to take the yammy la.. but see price 1st...dunno. how much 1800 ??


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post Jan 11 2008, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 11 2008, 04:15 PM)
11.5 not tat heavy, even kena tax, still worth it, 30% , buthor.. problem is warranty nia..
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11.5kg from HK not so expensive.. if I use my fedex is super discount rate also can..
which shop? hivizone ar?


Added on January 11, 2008, 9:17 pm
QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 11 2008, 02:34 PM)
then the Onkyo is overprice in bolehland, the yammy is almost same price worldwide  thumbup.gif
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joker shops, marking up so much... sigh!

go HK to buy better

http://www.hivizone.com/local-shop/av_amp.htm

I think 1800 yammy (us street prices over USD1k) also cannot fight SR805 prices (iUS street price below USD1k) also..

so conclusion, yammy 1800 is also overpriced worldwide..

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post Jan 14 2008, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Jan 14 2008, 01:33 PM)
after reading this:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=935808

im thinking to get 705 over the 605, because of its ability to matrix 5.1 PCM to 6.1/7.1 speakers. quite useful to me.

what say u guys? any user want to comments?
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how much diff? between 605 and 705 in KL?
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post Jan 14 2008, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 14 2008, 01:53 PM)
I think the Yammy V661 already can matrix 5.1 to 7.1 liao...
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err... sure it can matrix HD 5.1 to 7.1 HD audio? I tot it's not even 1.3a so how to accept HD audio (raw bitstream trueHD/DTS-MA) ??

http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/yamah...7-32378947.html

not very capable comparing to 605..

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post Jan 14 2008, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 14 2008, 02:04 PM)
that's the entry level lar...with HDMI1.2a...confirm can matrix...but you'll need 7.1 speakers to start with.... sweat.gif  not 2.1  brows.gif  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
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I got 6.1 speakers now.. (just need to add 1 more Centre) hehe!

anyway searched the web it says 661 can do 5.1 LPCM matrix to 7.1... cool. but it's since it's only 1.2a..sigh!
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post Jan 14 2008, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 14 2008, 02:25 PM)
HDMI 1.0 - This is the first version of HDMI. HDMI 1.0 combines a digital video signal (standard or high-definition) with a two-channel audio signal over a single cable, such as between an HDMI-equipped DVD player and Television.

HDMI 1.1 - This version adds the ability to transfer not only video and two-channel audio over a single cable, but also added the ability to transfer Dolby Digital, DTS, and DVD-Audio surround signals, as well up to 7.1 channels of PCM audio.

HDMI 1.2 - This version of HDMI adds the ability to transfer SACD signals in digital form from a player to a receiver.

HDMI 1.3 - This version includes improvements in both audio and video capability. With the advent of Blu-ray Disc and HD-DVD, version 1.3 adds the ability to transfer the digital bitstreams for the new high resolution audio formats: Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD.

HDMI 1.3a - In addition to the above audio improvements, HDMI 1.3 and 1.3a increase the amount of video bandwidth that can be transferred from a source to a display. This means, that in addition to the standard 24-bit color depth we are used to, HDMI 1.3 and 1.3a have the ability to transfer color depths up to 48-bits, and can accommodate resolutions much higher than the 1080p resolution standard that is in use today.

if the player is doing the decoding, for audio..HDMI 1.2a will be good enough, since it will decode and transfer as PCM.

unless your display support deep colour and the lip syn thing...u don't need HDMI 1.3a
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don't forget your whole HDMI chain will default to the lowest setting.. and also ability to bitstream DTS-HD to amp is great with the next gen low cost blu-ray players which don't have builtin decoders (so 1.3 min required IMHO)
as for higher bit color depths, this is a real bonus.. as it's 8bit per color already you can see color banding on LCDs... surely you need to go higher bits soon to eliminate these visible issues..


Added on January 14, 2008, 2:32 pm
QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 14 2008, 02:27 PM)
but hor... hdmi cables itself also got different version?
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got, those < rm100 version and those rm1000 version.. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 14 2008, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 14 2008, 02:32 PM)
so there is no such thing as a 1.3a hdmi cable lar?
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as mpyw said, maybe compliance to 1.3a spec lor..

nah read more here...

http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/eyetest.asp

http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/whitepaper.asp
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 15 2008, 12:37 PM)
but i tot ps3 automatically decodes?
so if go thru SR 605, will it be pcm or trueHD written?
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yeah I think automatically decode it, I don't think there is an option to bitstream TrueHD to amp, so your amp will never light up the TrueHD light when coupled with PS3...


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post Jan 16 2008, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 16 2008, 05:08 PM)
oh ya, yesterday i asked on shop, he qouted me SR705 for rm 2450 !!!!!!!

but he told me 2 hdmi in nia... i was like er.......
cos he call up onkyo sales person directly, the fella gave him the price and told him only 2 hdmi in for the 705, only 805 has 3
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wow cheap if it's 705, but he say 2HDMI maybe he confuse it with 605 pricing at 2450?

Onkyo TX-SR705 7.1 AV Surround Amplifier
* Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD
* HDMI version 1.3a
* THX Select2 Certified
* 192kHz/24-bit D/A Converters
* 7 x 175W/ch Amplification, JEITA
* 3 HDMI Inputs and 1 Output
* 7.1 Multi-Channel Analog Inputs and Pre-outs
* 1-Year Warranty



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post Jan 16 2008, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 16 2008, 05:52 PM)
if 705 at 2450 then grab it lar...wait for what....
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wait for you to taruh him kau kau to make a purchase lor..
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 17 2008, 11:43 AM)
u pay for me?
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listen to ah jiau la.. biggrin.gif just do it!
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 17 2008, 12:20 PM)
ar, i buy for u can? u bank in $$ to me?
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dowan so exp stuff la.. waiting for 1.5k range with advance HD audio decoding, then can consider..
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 17 2008, 12:26 PM)
sr605 anjua?
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LOL, so it's 605.. ??
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 17 2008, 12:29 PM)
imean u wan 605 or not? ard ur 1.5k budget mar
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har? 605 now selling 1.5k in JB? cool.. please confirm?
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post Jan 17 2008, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(sonicwall @ Jan 17 2008, 05:17 PM)
Are you guys sure SR-605 is priced at RM 1500 now? It was RM 2800 October 2007 last year...
How much is SR-705 now?
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better ask the rumor monger RX.. cabuts.. tongue.gif

but it's definitely not 2800... that's really a con price even if in OCT 08..

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post Jan 18 2008, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 18 2008, 10:55 AM)
u guys cant read is it? i didnt say in jaybee ler...
itu ar188 make orang pusing nia

HK is selling abt tat price rite?

anyway, is there any cheaper alternative amp with hdmi in tat does pcm? more than 2 hdmi in?

i got qoute for this denon 1508
http://www.denon.com.hk/product/consumer.detail.php?id=137
rm 1750 , ok ar?
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HK selling 605 slightly over 4000HKD mah.. and 705 over 5000hkd.. (convert x 0.42)


Added on January 18, 2008, 11:25 am
QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 18 2008, 10:55 AM)
i got qoute for this denon 1508
http://www.denon.com.hk/product/consumer.detail.php?id=137
rm 1750 , ok ar?
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rx, ask mypw, I think yammy got HDMI 1.2 which does PCM 5.1 for good price..not sure..which model 661??

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 18 2008, 03:15 PM)
7.1 important if you have 7.1 speakers lor...brows.gif
V661 can accept lossless PCM nia, cannot decode bitstream lossless but can matrix lossless 5.1 to 7.1 thumbup.gif
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IMHO, all these basic HDMI 1.2 amps should be priced below 2k, anything above is overpriced.. since it's 06/07 product design...

so if the 661 is below 2k that's fine..

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 18 2008, 04:12 PM)
30% biggrin.gif
api, which one u mau?
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as if RX will buta buta pay 30% tax.. sure throw away the box lor..
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jan 18 2008, 02:12 PM)
the Denon 1508/1708/1908 doesn't decode DTS-MA nor Dolby TrueHD wor....how to said it's future proof like that????
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I told Poki already, if he buy 2 can get cheaper, go and proceed.. meet my target 1000 bucks is fine tongue.gif

how futureproof? well by saving you 1-1.8k from the other options (say like paying 605 at 2800 - whoever paid for that price la) tongue.gif

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