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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - Present] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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2020's Summer Ins and Outs

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In
Odion Ighalo (Shanghai Shenhua) Loan
Donny van de Beek (Ajax)

Out
Cameron Borthwick-Jackson (Released)
Dion McGee (Released)
Angel Gomes (Released)
Ethan Hamilton (Released)
Michael O'Hara (Released)
Largie Ramazani (Released)
George Tanner (Released)
Alexis Sanchez (Inter Milan)
Tahith Chong (Werder Bremen) Loan
Aliou Traore (Caen) Loan
Joel Pereira (Huddersfield) Loan

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Time to update the jerseys... Zebra United!
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I read in a Reddit comment the 3rd kit is like a Juventus shirt fcking with a QR code haha...funny

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 8 2020, 10:19 PM)
doh.gif bloody lowballer


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Can't do much, the salary is insane.

Who gonna buy Jones 75k per week? Rojo 80k per week? Lingard 70k per week?

Let alone Mata 160k per week

To clean deadwood is a huge task, thank god we get rid of Sanchez and now Smalling
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because of the ugly 3rd kit, united have to use Beckham to promote it. lulz
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watched twice sancho played for England and he goes missing both games. he doesn't even try to dribble and just hoping someone will run near him to pass the ball. too passive for me.

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how long will southgate last? got lucky on the last world cup
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Sep 9 2020, 06:35 AM)
watched twice sancho played for England and he goes missing both games. he doesn't even try to dribble and just hoping someone will run near him to pass the ball. too passive for me.
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Sep 9 2020, 06:35 AM)
watched twice sancho played for England and he goes missing both games. he doesn't even try to dribble and just hoping someone will run near him to pass the ball. too passive for me.
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funny thing is we dont have alternative target other than sancho for winger, we can only pray that he will be playing well once we capture him.
guess the quality winger option available in the market is not that much at the moment
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ya maguire also give cheapo goals. it's just that lindeloft and smalling more cheopo than him lul
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maybe sancho is good... but not 120mil good.
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get adama traore je la. fed up with this sancho saga
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Sep 9 2020, 02:57 PM)
maybe sancho is good... but not 120mil good.
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Kai Havertz also cost 89mil pound for Chelsea.

Dortmund ask for 100mil pound for Sancho, some more english player command higher premium, i think the valuation is somewhat at market value. Problem is Kayu and Glazer willing to fork out that money or not.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 9 2020, 04:14 PM)
Kai Havertz also cost 89mil pound for Chelsea.

Dortmund ask for 100mil pound for Sancho, some more english player command higher premium, i think the valuation is somewhat at market value. Problem is Kayu and Glazer willing to fork out that money or not.
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i think will. but quite topkek if drag so long and pay same amount bvb requested in the begining.. but now no fans in stadium, no ppl make noise so woodward relax a bit..
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 9 2020, 04:24 PM)
i think will. but quite topkek if drag so long and pay same amount bvb requested in the begining.. but now no fans in stadium, no ppl make noise so woodward relax a bit..
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I think will add in clause like XX champions league match, appearance, goals etc to make up until 100mil. Even in Kai Havertz case also about 10-20mil floating fee which payable in future.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 9 2020, 04:26 PM)
I think will add in clause like XX champions league match, appearance, goals etc to make up until 100mil. Even in Kai Havertz case also about 10-20mil floating fee which payable in future.
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have to give credit to cfc marina. the woman can bargain... men never good with bargaining price.. console.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 9 2020, 04:41 PM)
have to give credit to cfc marina. the woman can bargain... men never good with bargaining price..  console.gif
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I beg to differ. Daniel Levy is the no.1
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 9 2020, 04:45 PM)
I beg to differ. Daniel Levy is the no.1
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we are not spurs fan. if you know what i mean

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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 9 2020, 04:45 PM)
I beg to differ. Daniel Levy is the no.1
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levy is seller. different eh.. hard seller..
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 9 2020, 04:41 PM)
have to give credit to cfc marina. the woman can bargain... men never good with bargaining price..  console.gif
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I reserve my compliment for her, much of the Chelsea recruitment in the past was done by Michael Emenalo and then took over by Peter Cech.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 9 2020, 04:26 PM)
I think will add in clause like XX champions league match, appearance, goals etc to make up until 100mil. Even in Kai Havertz case also about 10-20mil floating fee which payable in future.
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Dortmund wants 120m euros. No installments, no performance clauses.

That was in August, now don't think they want to sell anymore this season as they have 0 debts and no financial pressure. They can wait and sancho won't push for a move.

Havertz move is split into installments and performance clauses. 70 upfront and the rest on installments and performance. Worth it for De bruyne 2.0
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 9 2020, 04:45 PM)
I beg to differ. Daniel Levy is the no.1
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recommend watch "All or Nothing: Tottenham Hotspur", not bad laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 9 2020, 04:56 PM)
Dortmund wants 120m euros. No installments, no performance clauses.

That was in August, now don't think they want to sell anymore this season as they have 0 debts and no financial pressure. They can wait and sancho won't push for a move.

Havertz move is split into installments and performance clauses. 70 upfront and the rest on installments and performance. Worth it for De bruyne 2.0
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That's the problem now, Kayu if don't have that kind of fund, give up and move up to alternative target like David Brooks (but worry of the injury issue), or wait until next season which we have financial improvement then only move for it. Even now u can see Barca and RM is not spending big this season.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 9 2020, 05:02 PM)
That's the problem now, Kayu if don't have that kind of fund, give up and move up to alternative target like David Brooks (but worry of the injury issue), or wait until next season which we have financial improvement then only move for it. Even now u can see Barca and RM is not spending big this season.
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Manager give list, kayu follow only. This one is young, marketable and boleh play football as good as English players can. So all out for him. Taruh saja. Dortmund also might not have enough time to replace him if he's sold. German window should be closing early Oct if I'm not mistaken.
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QUOTE(ljf123 @ Sep 9 2020, 05:00 PM)
recommend watch "All or Nothing: Tottenham Hotspur", not bad  laugh.gif
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Mana watch? Torrent? Or you got any online streams? 😂
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 9 2020, 05:19 PM)
Mana watch? Torrent? Or you got any online streams? 😂
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telegram got, you search "All Or Nothing Tottenham Hotspur", click the one with 628 subscribers
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25m for bale and 300k p/W for bale.... Any thoughts?
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no.. injury prone.. high chances ended like alexis..
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Manchester United have a full agreement with Jadon Sancho and his agents. #mufc #mujournal FabrizioRomano, Here We Go Podcast

Jadon Sancho is absolutely ready and 'buzzing' to join #mufc. He decided a month ago to talk about this opportunity. The problem is not the personal terms or agent fees #mulive FabrizioRomano, here we go podcast


dont know real or not one hahah, sometimes deal dead sometimes deal alive, in the end like bruno fernandes, we just pay what the club wants and get him in doh.gif doh.gif
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Bruno Fernandes has been declared as Sporting Lisbon's top goalscorer in the Liga NOS, after leaving the club in January :athletic_shoe: 🇵🇹 #mufc #mujournal

power.... our bruno... still top scorer even after left
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Bruno Fernandes has been declared as Sporting Lisbon's top goalscorer in the Liga NOS, after leaving the club in January :athletic_shoe: 🇵🇹  #mufc #mujournal

power.... our bruno... still top scorer even after left
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 9 2020, 08:55 PM)
25m for bale and 300k p/W for bale.... Any thoughts?
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I would say no, i worry he prioritize golf rather than football. Some more his salary is higher than the rest of the team (except Pogba and DDG)

QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 9 2020, 10:01 PM)
dont know real or not one hahah, sometimes deal dead sometimes deal alive, in the end like bruno fernandes, we just pay what the club wants and get him in  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I would say no, i worry he prioritize golf rather than football. Some more his salary is higher than the rest of the team (except Pogba and DDG)
The personal terms has been agree, now stuck on transfer fee, Fabrizio has been saying this months ago sweat.gif
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just pay whatever dortmund want je la... next season when clubs getting their financial back... he may not worth only 120mil anymore... ishhh
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Starting the season with only 1 player signed. kek
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just pay whatever dortmund want je la... next season when clubs getting their financial back... he may not worth only 120mil anymore... ishhh
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 10 2020, 10:01 AM)
just pay whatever dortmund want je la... next season when clubs getting their financial back... he may not worth only 120mil anymore... ishhh
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Starting the season with only 1 player signed. kek
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Honestly, looking at our rivals strengthening their squad over the past weeks, I have very little hopes for this season. Our back 4 still remains shaky with no reinforcements - Smalling doesn't count.

I somehow get this feeling that Ole has already identified the players to strengthen the squad - but seems like Kayu is not budging ranting.gif
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i feel we need a proper left back + right wing and we are good to go for now... other options wait jan transfer window or next season only think... alot clubs are not buying this window... so we should not show we are in splurging mode... haha...

chelsea is because they already not buying for one whole season... so their spending spree is justifiable... of course they also able to buy with reasonable cost which we never able to do it... lol
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chelsea is because they already not buying for one whole season... so their spending spree is justifiable... of course they also able to buy with reasonable cost which we never able to do it... lol
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We've had the same hype from axel, and God knows how many others b4 him. My guess is Axel gonna loan out and sell soon too. Not seeing much from him everytime he appears.
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Welcome Jadon Sancho, our new no.7 Tuesday, Sept 15th.
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Welcome Jadon Sancho, our new no.7 Tuesday, Sept 15th.
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Welcome Jadon Sancho, our new no.7 Tuesday, Sept 15th.
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...new trio in the making

9 martial
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..with bruno+pogba behind them shit man
if only MU have a very good CDM, ..prime matic wud do it

and van de beek can play mid and upfont,..can swap vdb+bruno / vdb+pogba.. looks promising and delicious

..and to that asswodward..

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just pay la.. u want to wait for what?.. another maguire bruno repeat? damn it

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if only MU have a very good CDM, ..prime matic wud do it

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There's a rumour linking us with Kante atm but the price is 60M pound.
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come on!!

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...new trio in the making

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..with bruno+pogba behind them shit man
if only MU have a very good CDM, ..prime matic wud do it

and van de beek can play mid and upfont,..can swap vdb+bruno / vdb+pogba.. looks promising and delicious

..and to that asswodward..

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just pay la.. u want to wait for what?.. another maguire bruno repeat? damn it
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Woodward doing his best to nego. Seems like paying 99m up and rest on installments with no performance clauses. It's actually damn high price, but ole wants him and only him. Only now united are drawing up alternatives, but time is almost gone for nego on good players, so all out on sancho. Sancho is okay on moving or staying. Decision up to BVB now. Everything else has been settled. Agent fees, players contract, sponsorship, all done. Now all on BVB. Such a high price, I don't think they will reject. For his stats, BVB can get a cheaper alternative.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 11 2020, 03:53 PM)
Woodward doing his best to nego. Seems like paying 99m up and rest on installments with no performance clauses. It's actually damn high price, but ole wants him and only him. Only now united are drawing up alternatives, but time is almost gone for nego on good players, so all out on sancho. Sancho is okay on moving or staying. Decision up to BVB now. Everything else has been settled. Agent fees, players contract, sponsorship, all done. Now all on BVB. Such a high price, I don't think they will reject. For his stats, BVB can get a cheaper alternative.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 11 2020, 03:53 PM)
Woodward doing his best to nego. Seems like paying 99m up and rest on installments with no performance clauses. It's actually damn high price, but ole wants him and only him. Only now united are drawing up alternatives, but time is almost gone for nego on good players, so all out on sancho. Sancho is okay on moving or staying. Decision up to BVB now. Everything else has been settled. Agent fees, players contract, sponsorship, all done. Now all on BVB. Such a high price, I don't think they will reject. For his stats, BVB can get a cheaper alternative.
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that shows how stupid he is.
nego wan bissaka maguire - at the end pay the asking price
nego bruno - got lucky because bruno fight for his move pushing his agent

u dont nego onform players. there is a reason BVB put at higher price because of his quality, and MU is the only bidder. pay now or never.

stupid ass woodward doing maguire move again


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Paul Pogba has returned to Carrington for #mufc training after recovering from coronavirus #mulive

will he infect the other players there haha
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The Reds have been given an extra week to prepare for our Premier League opener against Crystal Palace on 19 September.

The Villans are also out of action as they were set to face Manchester City and so the sides will convene at Villa Park tomorrow for what is to be our only preparation for the new campaign – and you can watch the full match on MUTV from 22:00 BST.

Ole had some good news on the injury front, revealing that Luke Shaw is set to play after missing the back-end of last season with an ankle problem.

Our trip to the West Midlands comes a little too soon for Axel Tuanzebe, although the homegrown centre-back is approaching a first-team return in the coming weeks.

“For me, Luke is looking really good in training. He has come back, looking strong, and will play in the friendly against Villa,” Ole told us.

“Then Axel is getting closer as well. In a few weeks’ time, I guess he will be with us training full-time and hopefully we’ll be able to give him games quickly.”

While it’s been under four weeks since our 2019/20 campaign drew to a close in Cologne, Solskjaer sees the contest against Dean Smith’s side as vital for match fitness.

Ten Reds played international matches over the last week and they could be involved on Saturday – with fans set to get the chance to see Donny van de Beek in a United shirt for the first time.

Ole added that the friendly was also an opportunity for those who didn’t feature for their countries to rack up some game-time.

“It’s going to be a game to give players minutes,” Solskjaer added.

“Some have trained more than others and some will be more ready than others. Some played international games, which actually sometimes you think you don’t really want that but some of them have got valuable minutes there.

“We’ll give the others minutes against Villa so they can all start on a decent level because it’s going to be a long season.”

Of course, before any other season the Reds would be coming off the back of five or six friendlies, played in various countries throughout the world.

But this season – already shortened by one month from the usual August to May cycle – is unlike any other and Solskjaer says he and his players are going to have to adjust as best they can.

“Then again, it’s the world we live in. That’s the reality of it, no point arguing or discussing it or being miserable or moaning about it. This is the reality.

“We’re going to make the most of it. Of course, the first few games are going to be important to give as many players minutes as well because it’s such a long season.

“We’re going to need most of them throughout the season.”


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The France international was forced to withdraw from his country's squad for the recent UEFA Nations League matches after testing positive for COVID-19, as did several of his colleagues with the world champions.

He has returned to the fold and recuperated, getting back on the pitch at the Aon Training Complex this week.

“Paul’s had a couple of training sessions so he’s lost out on a few sessions because of the virus, of course,” Ole told us in an exclusive interview with MUTV's Mark Sullivan on Friday morning. “But Paul is quick to get fit. Of course, he worked really hard to get back after lockdown last time and played the majority of the games.

“Hopefully, he’ll be ready for next weekend. I am not 100 per cent sure though.”


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Paul Pogba has returned to Carrington for #mufc training after recovering from coronavirus #mulive

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Harry Maguire will remain Manchester United captain, manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has confirmed.

Maguire, 27, was given a suspended prison sentence on the Greek island of Syros after being found guilty of aggravated assault, resisting arrest and repeated attempts of bribery.

He maintains his innocence and has appealed against the decision, which nullifies the conviction.

"He is going to be our captain," Solskjaer told MUTV.

"He's handled it really well and, of course, I'll be here to support him.

"We'll just leave Harry and his people and the process to run. For me, he is a top, an absolute top human being and has always been a positive guy with the right values. So I really hope we can see Harry performing at his best."

Maguire will now receive a full retrial in a more senior court and told the BBC his "conscience is clear".

He was withdrawn from the England squad last month, but manager Gareth Southgate says he will "absolutely be looking" to recall the defender in October.

United play a friendly against Aston Villa on Saturday before their Premier League campaign begins against Crystal Palace on 19 September.


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Paul Pogba has returned to Carrington for #mufc training after recovering from coronavirus #mulive

will he infect the other players there haha
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Lol we lost. What's the line up?
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the greatest midfield duo of lingardinho perrerirado... lol... mostly second string... our second string sucks... hahahaha
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For our first preseason, looks rusty is expected. For our only preseason, this is worrying.
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Haha bale..cannot get sancho so we are getting bale..apa bodoh Woodward ni..

https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...ast-gareth-bale
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Haha bale..cannot get sancho so we are getting bale..apa bodoh Woodward ni..

https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...ast-gareth-bale
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Bale won't happen la unless last minute desperate.

Now it's sancho or bust with deadline next week. Ole wants to get transfers done before start of the first game of the season.
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Even if we get transfers over the line, there is no squad integration time for the new arrivals with the first game next week. Bad transfer management track record continues.
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Bale won't happen la unless last minute desperate.

Now it's sancho or bust with deadline next week. Ole wants to get transfers done before start of the first game of the season.
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If can get another traditionalin the box CF will be great
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Manchester United forward Mason Greenwood says it was "poor judgement" to inhale nitrous oxide, after "historical pictures" of him doing so were published by the Sun.

It comes after Greenwood and Manchester City's Phil Foden were sent home from England duty on Monday for breaching coronavirus quarantine guidelines.

"I strongly urge others not to follow my example," said Greenwood, 18.

Nitrous oxide is also known as laughing gas or 'hippy crack'.

In a statement, Greenwood said: "I have now been made aware of the health risks associated with this practice and accept that even trying it, as shown in these historical pictures, was poor judgement on my part.

"As an 18-year-old, I am learning all the time. However, this week I have also learned I will be judged to a higher standard because of my career as a footballer and I must respect that in future.

"I am determined to repay the faith shown in me by my manager and coaches."

Sold legally, nitrous oxide is used for medical and commercial uses. While it is not illegal to possess the substance, it is illegal to give away or sell as a psychoactive drug.

Nitrous oxide slows down the brain and the body's responses, giving users a feeling of euphoria and can cause hallucinations, but it can also lead to headaches, dizziness and paranoia.

However, large doses can starve the body and brain of oxygen, according to UK government drug advice service Frank.

Greenwood made his senior international debut in the 1-0 Nations League victory over Iceland in Reykyavik on 5 September.

His call-up followed a breakout season under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer at United, in which he scored 17 goals.

Greenwood said he "only has himself to blame" after being dropped from Gareth Southgate's England squad over the incident in Iceland.

He is now back at United and training on his own, in accordance with Covid-19 protocols.


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https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...nha-in-outburst

Hoeness said the English clubs are "trying to blackmail us, in the sense that they're waiting until the last week of the window and then will throw in a cheap offer."

He added that Thiago "has clearly made an agreement with Liverpool, or Manchester United or both, and both clubs are now bluffing. Neither has approached Bayern. That's not the way to do things as I see it."

Woodward’s bodoh modus operandi
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https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...nha-in-outburst

Hoeness said the English clubs are "trying to blackmail us, in the sense that they're waiting until the last week of the window and then will throw in a cheap offer."

He added that Thiago "has clearly made an agreement with Liverpool, or Manchester United or both, and both clubs are now bluffing. Neither has approached Bayern. That's not the way to do things as I see it."

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Cut that guy some slack until there is concrete proof on this. Why every single time he must be made the scapegoat for everything and anything? After all, most likely none of us here has any qualification to even do what he does so probably should be a bit tone down with our so called 'criticism".

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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 13 2020, 09:41 PM)
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...nha-in-outburst

Hoeness said the English clubs are "trying to blackmail us, in the sense that they're waiting until the last week of the window and then will throw in a cheap offer."

He added that Thiago "has clearly made an agreement with Liverpool, or Manchester United or both, and both clubs are now bluffing. Neither has approached Bayern. That's not the way to do things as I see it."

Woodward’s bodoh modus operandi
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Actually for this one have to give thumbs up to Kayu. If it is really true, waiting for the last minute to throw in offer to force Bayern to sell cheap is a good tactic. For Thiago, buying team will have the upper hand because it is going to be his last year of contract and he didn't want to sign a new contract. Bayern for sure doesn't want to let go of him for free.

Sancho is different because he still have another 2 years with Dortmund.
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Wow thiago macam closer. But need sancho news. Macam not moving
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 13 2020, 10:18 PM)
Actually for this one have to give thumbs up to Kayu. If it is really true, waiting for the last minute to throw in offer to force Bayern to sell cheap is a good tactic. For Thiago, buying team will have the upper hand because it is going to be his last year of contract and he didn't want to sign a new contract. Bayern for sure doesn't want to let go of him for free.

Sancho is different because he still have another 2 years with Dortmund.
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Cut that guy some slack until there is concrete proof on this. Why every single time he must be made the scapegoat for everything and anything? After all, most likely none of us here has any qualification to even do what he does so probably should be a bit tone down with our so called 'criticism".
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Well let’s wait until the end of transfer window 😄

A) only one transfer in with VDB
B) pay a lot sums of money for everyone
C) pay reasonable price for specific target
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Woodward is the Phil Jones of football transfers.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 14 2020, 09:07 AM)

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United is flooded in the middle. The club might have considered it before signing VDB, but def not now.
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unless we sell off lingard, mata, fred and perreira, i dun see thiago coming
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 14 2020, 10:30 AM)
unless we sell off lingard, mata, fred and perreira, i dun see thiago coming
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I would gladly give all 4 + cash for Thiago. But, I think we have too much in the middle and with very big names its hard to happen.


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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 14 2020, 10:19 AM)
United is flooded in the middle. The club might have considered it before signing VDB, but def not now.
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yeap... and so far we have not really sell off players... no market for our players lol.. and cb and sancho not sorted yet..
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Wow. Neymar is now with Puma. Please don’t end up with City 😂
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agree lol... a few times i also have the same wrong vision... hahahah... both from holland ma wad to do haha
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 14 2020, 11:13 AM)
yeap... and so far we have not really sell off players... no market for our players lol.. and cb and sancho not sorted yet..
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MUST insider said that everything with Sancho already agreed and just waiting for BVB to accept the offer, which was equal value to what they wanted in the first place. Total outlay for the transfer will exceed 130m,which includes agent and small stuff.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 14 2020, 11:50 AM)
MUST insider said that everything with Sancho already agreed and just waiting for BVB to accept the offer, which was equal value to what they wanted in the first place. Total outlay for the transfer will exceed 130m,which includes agent and small stuff.
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good. hope today announce and get it sorted. waiting for fabrizio to announceeee icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 14 2020, 11:50 AM)
MUST insider said that everything with Sancho already agreed and just waiting for BVB to accept the offer, which was equal value to what they wanted in the first place. Total outlay for the transfer will exceed 130m,which includes agent and small stuff.
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the insider reliable mou one... haha anyhow very sien of waiting for signings, left two weeks to closure and take time for new player to bond also... haiz
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 14 2020, 11:16 AM)
Wow. Neymar is now with Puma. Please don’t end up with City 😂
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only team that dont adhere til FFP can afford him laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 14 2020, 11:13 AM)
yeap... and so far we have not really sell off players... no market for our players lol.. and cb and sancho not sorted yet..
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salary tinggi2 belaka... lol... but performance not justfifiable... haha
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 13 2020, 09:41 PM)
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...nha-in-outburst

Hoeness said the English clubs are "trying to blackmail us, in the sense that they're waiting until the last week of the window and then will throw in a cheap offer."

He added that Thiago "has clearly made an agreement with Liverpool, or Manchester United or both, and both clubs are now bluffing. Neither has approached Bayern. That's not the way to do things as I see it."

Woodward’s bodoh modus operandi
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Why salah Kayu? Obviously is the agent trying to milk for a good deal or wanna force BM to let him go to Liverpool.

I don't think we will sign Thiago at this season

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 14 2020, 02:23 PM)
Why salah Kayu? Obviously is the agent trying to milk for a good deal or wanna force BM to let him go to Liverpool.

I don't think we will sign Thiago at this season
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thiago is not priority ..asswoodward just want to kacau liverpool and trying to get him cheap.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 14 2020, 01:21 PM)
wah jm kalah. sudah kolot manager
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dah kata he sucks punya... he and DM are the one i feel deserve to go... lost the dressing room and lost the respect of fans...
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 14 2020, 05:55 PM)
thiago is not priority ..asswoodward just want to kacau liverpool and trying to get him cheap.
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kacau pool is good. i support kayu.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 14 2020, 06:31 PM)
dah kata he sucks punya... he and DM are the one i feel deserve to go... lost the dressing room and lost the respect of fans...
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If u watch "All or nothing : Tottenham"

Then u will understand why Jomo failed to survive at Man Utd during his 2.5 year at Man Utd, even Daniel Levy is not quite happy of what he talk in the series (Something related to Chelsea/Tottenham).
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JM so yesterday he can't keep new and modern tactics that park the bus won't be the best weapon for him now.

About transfer, if we get Sancho and any proper LB more than happy for that. Luke Shaw is injury prone even tho he is decent LB
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Sep 14 2020, 10:42 PM)
What we can expect from Glazer???

He is a leecher, sucking United money for 89 million yet United still in debt about 100 million mad.gif

Yet many still backing Glazer, he is abusing United so much and the fact remaining for the past 3 managers. All of them talking the same things United not buy the players they need

And now it is Ole times, with Tier 1 news from James Cooper said United are considering Bale as an alternative for Sancho mega_shok.gif

If Sancho didn't come can we rely on week in week out with Martial, Rashford, Greenwood for EPL, FA Cup, Champions League, Carabao Cup?

Don't talk about Lingard, Mata, James, Ighalo for substitution the drop-off is too much

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We r content with top 4 annually. The $ risk / benefit of winning the league or Champions league is too high. Follow Arsenal model. Forget Ole, only a genius like Fergie or JoMo can win the league for us. But seems like Jomo maxed at 2nd place.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 15 2020, 09:19 AM)
We r content with top 4 annually. The $ risk / benefit of winning the league or Champions league is too high. Follow Arsenal model. Forget Ole, only a genius like Fergie or JoMo can win the league for us. But seems like Jomo maxed at 2nd place.
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this season my not so dark horse bet will be on everton... laugh.gif jrod unleash from rm dy
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Arsenal also looking good.

Basically this year top 6 is as hard as top 4 last year.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 15 2020, 09:26 AM)
this season my not so dark horse bet will be on everton... laugh.gif jrod unleash from rm dy
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Ancelotti know how to use him, btw they got it cheap since RM need to offload him asap.

Jomo criticize his own player "lazy" in front of media, he still didn't learn his lesson eh. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Sep 14 2020, 11:51 PM)
What we can expect from Glazer???

He is a leecher, sucking United money for 89 million yet United still in debt about 100 million  mad.gif

Yet many still backing Glazer, he is abusing United so much and the fact remaining for the past 3 managers. All of them talking the same things United not buy the players they need

And now it is Ole times, with Tier 1 news from James Cooper said United are considering Bale as an alternative for Sancho  mega_shok.gif

If Sancho didn't come can we rely on week in week out with Martial, Rashford, Greenwood for EPL, FA Cup, Champions League, Carabao Cup?

Don't talk about Lingard, Mata, James, Ighalo for substitution the drop-off is too much
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You do know who owns United right? It's their club and their right no matter how much fans dislike what they are doing. I'm not backing glazer or anything but football is a business and unless we get a rich owner whom treats his club like his personal plaything or hobby (Chelsea) we won't see so much money pouring in. An owner like roman would also have risks involved, what if one day he becomes bored with football? Or his money runs low? The club would be ditched aside. It has happened before. Look at QPR, an example Malaysians can understand.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 15 2020, 09:47 AM)
Ancelotti know how to use him, btw they got it cheap since RM need to offload him asap.

Jomo criticize his own player "lazy" in front of media, he still didn't learn his lesson eh.  whistling.gif
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yeah.. lotti team might be the team to watch also
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if no sancho, loan bale pun jadi lah
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 15 2020, 10:59 AM)
if no sancho, loan bale pun jadi lah
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yup was thinking this too.. just loan bale.

sancho can wait next season
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 15 2020, 09:47 AM)
Ancelotti know how to use him, btw they got it cheap since RM need to offload him asap.

Jomo criticize his own player "lazy" in front of media, he still didn't learn his lesson eh.  whistling.gif
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whats wrong for telling the truth? Are players babies? So u can't scold them out in the open?
If roy keane were to do the same, will you judge him differently from JM?
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QUOTE(feekle @ Sep 15 2020, 11:08 AM)
whats wrong for telling the truth? Are players babies? So u can't scold them out in the open?
If roy keane were to do the same, will you judge him differently from JM?
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As a manager, u should protect your own player and refrain from humiliating them in front of media, SAF will not do that and rather talk to them on the training pitch/dressing room/meeting room. This is man management where Jomo failed badly on it.

That's why Roy Keane was asked to leave after he talk bad about players on MUTV, SAF ask him to leave because of this issue. Roy Keane now working as pundit and he has freedom to express.
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QUOTE(feekle @ Sep 15 2020, 11:08 AM)
whats wrong for telling the truth? Are players babies? So u can't scold them out in the open?
If roy keane were to do the same, will you judge him differently from JM?
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Agreed with this, but kids nowadays are very sensitive. Can't be criticised. You can't tell them as it is or they will merajuk.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 15 2020, 11:04 AM)
yup was thinking this too.. just loan bale.

sancho can wait next season
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Lol Sancho next season? Loan Bale?

Are we getting Sanchez 2.0, and next season Real Madrid will gonna get Sancho and what United using old golf Bale

Ole wants players who hunger to win to play not golf player!

The mentality some of us really facepalm
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 15 2020, 11:17 AM)
As a manager, u should protect your own player and refrain from humiliating them in front of media, SAF will not do that and rather talk to them on the training pitch/dressing room/meeting room. This is man management where Jomo failed badly on it.

That's why Roy Keane was asked to leave after he talk bad about players on MUTV, SAF ask him to leave because of this issue. Roy Keane now working as pundit and he has freedom to express.
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perhaps EPL should put no.1 criteria for managers working in EPL club is not to talk bad about your players in front of media. If they suck, tell them they are not doing the best, if they finished last, tell them they are the winners from last.

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 15 2020, 10:59 AM)
if no sancho, loan bale pun jadi lah
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We dont need golf player
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 15 2020, 09:47 AM)
You do know who owns United right? It's their club and their right no matter how much fans dislike what they are doing. I'm not backing glazer or anything but football is a business and unless we get a rich owner whom treats his club like his personal plaything or hobby (Chelsea) we won't see so much money pouring in. An owner like roman would also have risks involved, what if one day he becomes bored with football? Or his money runs low? The club would be ditched aside. It has happened before. Look at QPR, an example Malaysians can understand.
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And some of United fans agree to get Bale and let Sancho go to Real Madrid

United to build players with got high determination and hunger not golf player

Glazer is testing water whether to see United fans reaction. If not get Sancho,Bale okay what? This kind of "Tak apa" attitude is spread in global scale


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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Sep 15 2020, 11:22 AM)
We dont need golf player
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when he plays he still got his game.. but rm fakap their relationship..
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Sep 15 2020, 11:21 AM)
Lol Sancho next season? Loan Bale?

Are we getting Sanchez 2.0, and next season Real Madrid will gonna get Sancho and what United using old golf Bale

Ole wants players who hunger to win to play not golf player!

The mentality some of us really facepalm
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season already start.. being realistic sancho gonna cost more now. he is dortmund 1st team player while bale is backup

sanchez loan work for inter.. why not bale.

sign bale is a big no now but loan better than nothing. can see bale happier here


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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 15 2020, 11:04 AM)
yup was thinking this too.. just loan bale.

sancho can wait next season
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This season no one berani buy sancho because of covid. Wait next year confirm fight with Real Madrid, Barcelona etc
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 15 2020, 12:11 PM)
This season no one berani buy sancho because of covid. Wait next year confirm fight with Real Madrid, Barcelona etc
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United was and still is willing to buy Sancho. Subject to BVB accepting the offer. Even now we meet their offer, have to see if they will accept. BVB doesn't need to sell and the player doesn't have a strong desire to move.
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Sep 15 2020, 11:26 AM)
And some of United fans agree to get Bale and let Sancho go to Real Madrid

United to build players with got high determination and hunger not golf player

Glazer is testing water whether to see United fans reaction. If not get Sancho,Bale okay what? This kind of "Tak apa" attitude is spread in global scale
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if bale is willing to move, i'd take him any day over lingard or DJ, both still young and need time. He would be a better option over what we have at the moment.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 15 2020, 01:47 PM)
if bale is willing to move, i'd take him any day over lingard or DJ, both still young and need time. He would be a better option over what we have at the moment.
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Lingard, young??? mega_shok.gif
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if bale is willing to move, i'd take him any day over lingard or DJ, both still young and need time. He would be a better option over what we have at the moment.
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that is true. golf player very good leh. its just that zidane dont like him. sign him will disrupt harmony. loan then should be fine. like how ighalo make impact
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lingard not that young 😅😅😅
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QUOTE(ljf123 @ Sep 15 2020, 02:11 PM)
Lingard, young???  mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Sep 15 2020, 04:25 PM)
lingard not that young 😅😅😅
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Lingard will forever be the up and coming united player. Young and with potential. Don't see any other reason why he isn't sold until now 😂
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Lingard potential so damn much until there is no choice but to release it over the next decade.

If you ask me, golf player is just one step up from 🎹 player
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"It is my club, my home and I am very happy here," Grealish said after agreeing the new deal on Tuesday.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54163120

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Premier League teams join the Carabao Cup at the second-round stage this week knowing the tournament's winners will enter a new European competition.

The winners of this season's cup will not qualify for the Europa League as in the past, but will instead go into the Uefa Europa Conference League (UECL).

They will enter at the play-off phase, the round before the group stages.

Uefa's third-tier tournament - which was announced in December 2018 - starts next season.

If the EFL Cup winners qualify for Europe through the league - as has happened every year since 2013 - then the sixth-placed team in the Premier League (or seventh place if the FA Cup is won by a top-six team) will go into the UECL play-offs.

There will still be at least four English teams in the Champions League and two in the Europa League.

The Europa Conference League, which will have 32 teams in the group stages, will be played on Thursday nights along with the Europa League, which is reduced from 48 to 32 teams.

The UECL groups are likely to contain teams from some of Europe's smaller countries, as well as teams who finish sixth in Spain, Italy and Germany and win the play-offs - in addition to clubs that lose their Europa League qualifiers.

The winners of the UECL qualify for the following season's Europa League.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54133192

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Bale and United is match made from heaven but few years too late.

If we sign him, the wing is gonna be empty anyway because he will be injured more often than Shaw + Jones
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 15 2020, 07:07 PM)
Jack Grealish signing 5 years contract at AV shows lack of ambition. He can rot or probably relegate with AV the following season.

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Jack Grealish signing 5 years contract at AV shows lack of ambition. He can rot or probably relegate with AV the following season.
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Or he is just helping/ensure his boyhood club will get more $ whenever he makes the move after that hmm.gif
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 15 2020, 12:05 PM)
season already start.. being realistic sancho gonna cost more now. he is dortmund 1st team player while bale is backup

sanchez loan work for inter.. why not bale.

sign bale is a big no now but loan better than nothing. can see bale happier here
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Bale is injury prone. Just this year he injured 3 times 2 times at January and Zidane stop using him but on 9 Sept he injured again after so long rest he injured again and again and again

Why United wants to waste 300k per week for his salary for him to sit at the bench and play for 30 minutes and get injured again

Are United collect rubbish from Real Madrid disposal? He injured 24 times at Real Madrid

Bale is no longer young he is 31 damn years old and will be on 32 years old and Bale is not wine!

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sept 16 sudah oi. apa fake news say sept 15 reveal sancho lol
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sept 16 sudah oi. apa fake news say sept 15 reveal sancho lol
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lol.

fuck glazers.

thats why MU really need DoF

fyi.. it all started from fabrizio romano tweet, the deal is close, personal terms not a problem



suddenly 10 aug, woodward renego with less offer


..and from that moment, BVB said 120m or fuck off..

asswood messed it up

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QUOTE(James831 @ Sep 15 2020, 11:08 PM)
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...ds-bale-sources

Tottenham ahead of Man Utd in pursuit of Real Madrid's Bale - sources
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So even lb also xda
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 16 2020, 04:42 AM)
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...ds-bale-sources

Tottenham ahead of Man Utd in pursuit of Real Madrid's Bale - sources
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They are ahead in pursuit of Reguilon as well.
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They are ahead in pursuit of Reguilon as well.
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Tau but lazy to post. So we are the new low ballers is it? 😂 we are the new spurs. No ambition (or no rezeki) 😂
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For Reguillon I understand because we don't want the buy back clause. But for Bale? Maybe we are still pushing for Sancho?
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 16 2020, 04:57 PM)
ever since this dude announced Sancho for us, he lost all credibility la. True, he announced many correct transfers but its more like shooting a machine gun when it comes to MUFC. Every player and his grandmother is gonna be "negotiating" with MUFC.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 16 2020, 04:57 PM)
Wait for the final news, but I do believe United really lost the touch and skill of negotiation.


I know there is clause buyback but if from 25million(RM offers to United) and buyback is around 45million I don't think it is bad transfer
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Sep 16 2020, 05:29 PM)
Wait for the final news, but I do believe United really lost the touch and skill of negotiation.
I know there is clause buyback but if from 25million(RM offers to United) and buyback is around 45million I don't think it is bad transfer
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The problem is not due the price of the buyback. What happened if we only have him as cover, and then RM activated the clause? We could be left with no player to play at that position at all.
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 16 2020, 05:32 PM)
The problem is not due the price of the buyback. What happened if we only have him as cover, and then RM activated the clause? We could be left with no player to play at that position at all.
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Like it or not even without buyback clause, Reguillon will join Real Madrid that his childhood club just like Ronaldo

I know we want long term solution but he can cover United this season without impacting so much money for United

It is totally different from Bale. Bale football is near to end he doesn't have desire to play plus he is truly injury prone like Jones

United can get some money to buy another LB which again a headache for United but at least United got extra money to spend and the Glazer doesn't get full profit for not spending the money

Now hoping Alex Telles to join even he is 27. He is good on attacking but not so much on the defensive side
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Like it or not even without buyback clause, Reguillon will join Real Madrid that his childhood club just like Ronaldo

I know we want long term solution but he can cover United this season without impacting so much money for United

It is totally different from Bale. Bale football is near to end he doesn't have desire to play plus he is truly injury prone like Jones

United can get some money to buy another LB which again a headache  for United but at least United got extra money to spend and the Glazer doesn't get full profit for not spending the money

Now hoping Alex Telles to join even he is 27. He is good on attacking but not so much on the defensive side
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The concern is not a bout Reguillon goes back to RM, but with the buyback clause we lose control over what could happened. If they trigger it we would be forced to sell back. Regardless of if we have another backup or replacement or not. Normal sale back to RM is ok, we can accept or reject or negotiate to sell after we have replacement or something. But with buyback, no choice.
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left back?
funny how no one mention Álex Grimaldo with benfica. why no one kacau him?
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 16 2020, 05:54 PM)
The concern is not a bout Reguillon goes back to RM, but with the buyback clause we lose control over what could happened. If they trigger it we would be forced to sell back. Regardless of if we have another backup or replacement or not. Normal sale back to RM is ok, we can accept or reject or negotiate to sell after we have replacement or something. But with buyback, no choice.
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I fully understand the gravity of buyback clause that RM can trigger to buy him back but we need to look at the whole picture since when our Board so efficient on transfers?

VDB is from the help of Van Der Sar if without him, United with the news still monitoring the situation. Maguire, Wan Bissaka and James no one wants them

With Sancho, the player wants to join United but again because of the fee or agreement between Dortmund and United it stalls or never happens

Now with Reguillon, United at least got sometimes to think and scout which player that suit for LB for long period a season or two

Anyway, it is past, now United should get new LB which rumours said Alex Telles is on the front queue. Hope things go well for United


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left back?
funny how no one mention Álex Grimaldo with benfica. why no one kacau him?
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I think he is decent but again United Board is not competent

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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Sep 16 2020, 06:07 PM)
I fully understand the gravity of buyback clause that RM can trigger to buy him back but we need to look at the whole picture since when our Board so efficient on transfers?

VDB is from the help of Van Der Sar if without him, United with the news still monitoring the situation. Maguire, Wan Bissaka and James no one wants them

With Sancho, the player wants to join United but again because of the fee or agreement between Dortmund and United it stalls or never happens

Now with Reguillon, United at least got sometimes to think and scout which player that suit for LB for long period a season or two

Anyway, it is past, now United should get new LB which rumours said Alex Telles is on the front queue. Hope things go well for United
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I agree with the questionable efficiency of our board for transfer, its just that sometimes I too understand why they hesitate to do the transfer.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 16 2020, 05:26 PM)
ever since this dude announced Sancho for us, he lost all credibility la. True, he announced many correct transfers but its more like shooting a machine gun when it comes to MUFC. Every player and his grandmother is gonna be "negotiating" with MUFC.
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which part is not credible?
fabrizio romano remain consistent with his statement all this while, that "there was no new offer from MU after woodward messed up the deal" until today. he is consistent. the other media is the one overhyped it.

"120m or no sancho"
"personal terms agreed, up to MU"
"no new offer from MU until today"

so, which part of fabrizio romano statement is not credible?


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Sir Alex did miracle things since 2005 till 2009 even under Glazer. Did Glazer help United?

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 16 2020, 05:32 PM)
The problem is not due the price of the buyback. What happened if we only have him as cover, and then RM activated the clause? We could be left with no player to play at that position at all.
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Yes, i believe this is the main issue. It is not the right of first refusal type of clause.
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notice that too, it's getting a bit out of control since previous thread sweat.gif


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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 16 2020, 08:55 PM)
which part is not credible?
fabrizio romano remain consistent with his statement all this while, that "there was no new offer from MU after woodward messed up the deal" until today. he is consistent. the other media is the one overhyped it.

"120m or no sancho"
"personal terms agreed, up to MU"
"no new offer from MU until today"

so, which part of fabrizio romano statement is not credible?
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I suppose when you mean advanced stage, fees would have been agreed or at least close to agreement. How can Woodward mess up the offer if we don’t have the opening bid accepted? I mean not to defend the guy, but it seems we didn’t even offer enough for Dortmund to even pick up the phone. In that sense it’s not even at beginning stage, let alone advanced.

Besides it’s always been club accepts offer and then player negotiates salary,
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Tottenham complete £13m Bale deal
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The Wales star looks set for a reunion

Gareth Bale has sealed a return to Tottenham from Real Madrid, claims the Daily Mail.

The Wales attacker has agreed to return to Spurs on a season-long loan worth more than £13 million (€14m/$16m) with Los Blancos set to finance some of the move.

An official announcement is expected soon with no Tottenham player to depart the club as part of the deal following reports Dele Alli could be heading to the Santiago Bernabeu.
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13mil and wage subsidy? Macam cheap.
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so no signings
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Attack : B+
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Defence : B
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 17 2020, 07:14 AM)
Just saw this appear on my feed.
Tottenham complete £13m Bale deal
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The Wales star looks set for a reunion

Gareth Bale has sealed a return to Tottenham from Real Madrid, claims the Daily Mail.

The Wales attacker has agreed to return to Spurs on a season-long loan worth more than £13 million (€14m/$16m) with Los Blancos set to finance some of the move.

An official announcement is expected soon with no Tottenham player to depart the club as part of the deal following reports Dele Alli could be heading to the Santiago Bernabeu.
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13mil and wage subsidy? Macam cheap.
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Rumors Tottenham is paying 13mil to RM as loan fee, that's equivalent to gareth bale annual wages sweat.gif


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hi guys.. haven't been engaging much with u all.. been drowning in the ineptitude of our transfer business..

is this the worst summer transfer window u ever experienced? technically, i understand we still have until Oct 5 before the window shut..

but season start this week and i opined we are still so not ready for this saturday.. we're heading into the new season essentially with the same squad as the last season.. looking at leeds last week, crystal palace can easily come and cause us problems
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 17 2020, 11:47 AM)
hi guys.. haven't been engaging much with u all.. been drowning in the ineptitude of our transfer business..

is this the worst summer transfer window u ever experienced? technically, i understand we still have until Oct 5 before the window shut..

but season start this week and i opined we are still so not ready for this saturday.. we're heading into the new season essentially with the same squad as the last season.. looking at leeds last week, crystal palace can easily come and cause us problems
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I would say almost every transfer window is about the same level of ineptness from our negotiation team.
From back in 2013 when Moyes took over, we didn't buy Fellaini for cheaper on an active clause. Chased other targets until that clause expired, then paid over the odds for Fellaini.
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Last season wasn't so bad. We had DJ 21, AWB, Harry M. If only Dan James improved, or realised some additional potential then the right wing would've been his.

Now it looks unlikely as hell as the season progressed, and the friendly with Aston Villa shows he's still not progress (missed shots galore).

Center back kena con by Lindelof, con by Bailey. Now feels like Harry M also not the best buy for 80M. Its the attack which is very thin as I said even from last season ending, and made worse by Lukaku departure. I'm pretty much expecting a few long runs of drought in front of goals when strikers lose form and fitness. (Its sure to happen).
The problem here is no one good is available for under 100m.

Right wing is a new problem for this season and if Sancho doesn't join, either due to $ or we *didn't want him in the first place* then it gives Ole a pleasant excuse for under performing.
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 17 2020, 11:47 AM)
hi guys.. haven't been engaging much with u all.. been drowning in the ineptitude of our transfer business..

is this the worst summer transfer window u ever experienced? technically, i understand we still have until Oct 5 before the window shut..

but season start this week and i opined we are still so not ready for this saturday.. we're heading into the new season essentially with the same squad as the last season.. looking at leeds last week, crystal palace can easily come and cause us problems
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fitness issue also, we only have one friendly before EPL starts... lol... but with midfield well stocked, who dominate the midfield can win a game
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fitness issue also, we only have one friendly before EPL starts... lol... but with midfield well stocked, who dominate the midfield can win a game
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Our midfield issue is quality depth.
Once you rest our first 3, our next 3 is a significant drop in terms of midfield quality. Look at Perreira - Lingard in the Villa game.
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Our midfield issue is quality depth.
Once you rest our first 3, our next 3 is a significant drop in terms of midfield quality. Look at Perreira - Lingard in the Villa game.
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i think the midfield trio of fred mctom + VDB is not bad also this season... last season OGS destroyed the partnership momentum of mctom + fred when matic pogba is fit...
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come judge your self on the window here..

https://www.transfermarkt.com/manchester-un...fers/verein/985

10/11 and 13/14 are both bad....
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come judge your self on the window here..

https://www.transfermarkt.com/manchester-un...fers/verein/985

10/11 and 13/14 are both bad....
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 17 2020, 01:04 PM)
I would say almost every transfer window is about the same level of ineptness from our negotiation team.
From back in 2013 when Moyes took over, we didn't buy Fellaini for cheaper on an active clause. Chased other targets until that clause expired, then paid over the odds for Fellaini.
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yea.. it's been bad for 7 years and still too stubborn to get in a director of football.. pretty sure that'll help a lot on the negotiation part

but then it'll ultimately come down to the glazers.. if they don't want to fork out the money, no matter how furious we fans are, no one can do anything also


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fitness issue also, we only have one friendly before EPL starts... lol... but with midfield well stocked, who dominate the midfield can win a game
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definitely fitness issues to worry about especially for those who were not involve in international duties..

in addition, the squad depth is worrying.. as excited as i am for donny, him alone is not enough to improve the squad as a whole.. because one, we need more.. and second, the deadwood still remain..

again, aware that we may eventually sign sancho and others since the window still remain open until oct 5.. but isn't it better to get it all sorted out before season start? why take the risk in losing points on matchday right?
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apala, golf player we also lose out to sign
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 17 2020, 02:14 PM)
yea.. it's been bad for 7 years and still too stubborn to get in a director of football.. pretty sure that'll help a lot on the negotiation part

but then it'll ultimately come down to the glazers.. if they don't want to fork out the money, no matter how furious we fans are, no one can do anything also
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It is this way because there is no accountability mechanism to failed transfers.
Even buying late has a performance impact as the signing takes time ot integrate into the squad, made worse if the season is already underway.

Any performance impact, the blame lies with the manager. So end of the day, the manager has to pay the price of Woodward's ineptness.
Mourinho said it during his time with us.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 17 2020, 03:05 PM)
apala, golf player we also lose out to sign
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where will bale fit in?
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apala, golf player we also lose out to sign
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i think we never actually went in for him to begin with eh? but im glad he chose spurs.. after all his troubles, i'll be happy to see him do well there.. just not with united please tongue.gif

QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 17 2020, 03:05 PM)
It is this way because there is no accountability mechanism to failed transfers.
Even buying late has a performance impact as the signing takes time ot integrate into the squad, made worse if the season is already underway.

Any performance impact, the blame lies with the manager. So end of the day, the manager has to pay the price of Woodward's ineptness.
Mourinho said it during his time with us.
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well said there.. head on the chopping board will always be the head coach regardless.. poor ole then.. he will have to make do with what's available if really cannot sign sancho.. steering an unbalance ship with patched holes
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put it this way, Woodward has had 4 managers. So you can imagine how well he himself is doing. If Glazers cared about performance or winning, Woodward is the one I fired long time ago.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 17 2020, 04:11 PM)
put it this way, Woodward has had 4 managers. So you can imagine how well he himself is doing. If Glazers cared about performance or winning, Woodward is the one I fired long time ago.
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 17 2020, 02:31 PM)
definitely fitness issues to worry about especially for those who were not involve in international duties..

in addition, the squad depth is worrying.. as excited as i am for donny, him alone is not enough to improve the squad as a whole.. because one, we need more.. and second, the deadwood still remain..

again, aware that we may eventually sign sancho and others since the window still remain open until oct 5.. but isn't it better to get it all sorted out before season start? why take the risk in losing points on matchday right?
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previously keep one kena say that they overpaid without negotiation, but actually most of the time we are overpaid because we drag things too late or eventually just pay the asking price only... after one mth plus of talk about nego here and there... mostly just end up at the starting point... haha... stupidity at its best... we hope that sancho can immediately slot in how bruno did, thats the only way
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 17 2020, 03:05 PM)
apala, golf player we also lose out to sign
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we are not competing, but wasted miss out on the LB, at his age, 30mil is not a high risk investment... but yea, kayu always nego the stupid thing and in the end being stupid on his own haha
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bodo giler. chasing unrealistic 120m player, no time for anyone else. if sancho did come, then he will be praised. but looking unlikely
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Thiago Joins Liverpool!

ROFL. Sadge Owner.

So farny. Other clubs keep getting players that link to us.

But who care. Man Utd fan base so big that the club owner still earning money even Man Utd not top 4.


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Man Utd transfer is worse than Everton. Wtf is the board doing still hiring Ed to do the job?
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Latest rumour is Reguilon will be confirming his transfer to Spurs.
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Man Utd transfer is worse than Everton. Wtf is the board doing still hiring Ed to do the job?
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Everton did very well with their transfers, we are not deserving to be mentioned in the same breath transfer-wise.
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Bale and Reguilon confirmed to spurs
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So we missed out on Thiago for 26M to Pool.
We missed out of Bale and Regulion to Spurs.
We still haven't got Sancho.
Grealish signed a new contract with Villa.
We only got VDB because of our Dutch friends helping us out. I'm not giving this to Woodward.

Is there any PL club that is having a worse transfer result than us right now?

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come judge your self on the window here..

https://www.transfermarkt.com/manchester-un...fers/verein/985

10/11 and 13/14 are both bad....
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2010-2011 we are Champions squad so not much complaint while 2013-2014 we are an ageing team and also United lost SAF

And that that point 2013 we are Champions so at that time we used to think even without replacement United will be okay


Now on the current situation, United got a huge gap between Liverpool 30 points different for last season, City and in fact Chelsea improved the squad depth


Is United chasing to be top? or complacent for chasing top 4,5 or 6 and play UEFA Cup?

Liverpool now with Champions squad same situation with United 2010-2011 just added 1 quality player Thiago that can achieve 20 winning EPL while United does not try to stop it(The Board)




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kakaka. still say we are financially strong in covid times. but transfer wise, we looks like very poor
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 17 2020, 02:31 PM)
definitely fitness issues to worry about especially for those who were not involve in international duties..

in addition, the squad depth is worrying.. as excited as i am for donny, him alone is not enough to improve the squad as a whole.. because one, we need more.. and second, the deadwood still remain..

again, aware that we may eventually sign sancho and others since the window still remain open until oct 5.. but isn't it better to get it all sorted out before season start? why take the risk in losing points on matchday right?
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True, even Sancho came in we still struggle for squad depth especially or defensive side

Even we have 6 CB, only 2players are halfly decent while the rest are mediocre

Our LB the Luke Shaw is left-footed while William is right-footed that more suitable to play at RB. And please don't talk about Rojo he long gone

I think with Sancho we can close the gap from 30 points off to 20 points or perhaps 15 points but to stop Liverpool to win EPL for 20th time is almost impossible unless Liverpool squad got injuries especially Salah, Mane and Van Dijk

But Chelsea could pull of surprise for this upcoming match against Liverpool


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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 17 2020, 08:11 PM)
kakaka. still say we are financially strong in covid times. but transfer wise, we looks like very poor
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Yalo, apa bullshit, looks like we are some of the worst during COVID.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 17 2020, 05:12 PM)
previously keep one kena say that they overpaid without negotiation, but actually most of the time we are overpaid because we drag things too late or eventually just pay the asking price only... after one mth plus of talk about nego here and there... mostly just end up at the starting point... haha... stupidity at its best... we hope that sancho can immediately slot in how bruno did, thats the only way
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yes hopefully..

as for the negotiation part, it's getting clearer that they want to save a few million quid here and there isn't it? from a business standpoint, there's nothing wrong with that though.. every business owner wants to make money.. but too bad we're a football club.. success on the pitch require successive investment as well
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 17 2020, 09:38 PM)
yes hopefully..

as for the negotiation part, it's getting clearer that they want to save a few million quid here and there isn't it? from a business standpoint, there's nothing wrong with that though.. every business owner wants to make money.. but too bad we're a football club.. success on the pitch require successive investment as well
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From the way the Glazers and Woodward are running it, we are a business first.
Marketing brand second.
Football club third.
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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Sep 17 2020, 05:54 PM)
Thiago Joins Liverpool! 

ROFL. Sadge Owner.

So farny. Other clubs keep getting players that link to us.

But who care. Man Utd fan base so big that the club owner still earning money even Man Utd not top 4.
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did u notice for the past few seasons, if we want to sign a player, and there's no other club competing, then ok..

but if there's other clubs competing with us for the same player, we sure lose out one.. how sad
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 17 2020, 08:11 PM)
kakaka. still say we are financially strong in covid times. but transfer wise, we looks like very poor
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 17 2020, 08:19 PM)
Yalo, apa bullshit, looks like we are some of the worst during COVID.
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using Covid as an excuse to hide the ineptitude
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From the way the Glazers and Woodward are running it, we are a business first.
Marketing brand second.
Football club third.
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sad but true
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using Covid as an excuse to hide the ineptitude
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54175499

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Man with a plan - but finances have been hit

It has not always been the case, but United have started buying to a plan.

Since last summer, there has yet to be an absolute failure, and even the one man there are doubts about - winger Daniel James - came at relatively low cost and performed superbly in his first few weeks as a United player.

In addition, Solskjaer has got rid of players he either had no use for or did not want to be around, including forwards Romelu Lukaku and Alexis Sanchez.

However, BBC Sport was told by a number of sources the idea was for last season to be the start of something substantial - and that required more signings.

In that respect, United have hit a problem.

Their long-running pursuit of Jadon Sancho is stuck because they cannot agree a fee with Borussia Dortmund. Alternatives are being considered, but Gareth Bale seems more likely to end up at Spurs and Ivan Perisic, a target from the Mourinho era, would come at a hefty cost wage-wise.

And this is where the real issue lies.

The financial impact of the coronavirus pandemic is hitting United hard. Every time a game at Old Trafford is played behind closed doors, it costs the club about £5m in lost income.

The true cost of Covid-19 will be outlined later this month, when the club release their end-of-year financial results but, without clarity over when supporters will be allowed back in stadiums in any significant number, they are loath to stretch themselves more than they are able.

It also creates a difficulty when it comes to selling players, because - of course - most other clubs are in the same position as United.


Over spent then end up need to balance the book then what? Lay off the staff working with the clubs? Like what some clubs had done?

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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54175499
Over spent then end up need to balance the book then what? Lay off the staff working with the clubs? Like what some clubs had done?
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erm, talking about balance.. why not balance off the 430 million pound debt first right?
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Mengi promoted to first team.

So, we have 8 CB: lindelof, Maguire, bailly, tuanzebe, smalling, jones, mengi, rojo

4 GK
6 CM
4 AM


Freaking unbalance squad dated all the way back to LVG era

So, we are playing what formation now?
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Mengi promoted to first team.

So, we have 8 CB: lindelof, Maguire, bailly, tuanzebe, smalling, jones, mengi, rojo

4 GK
6 CM
4 AM
Freaking unbalance squad dated all the way back to LVG era

So, we are playing what formation now?
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3-5-2
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erm, talking about balance.. why not balance off the 430 million pound debt first right?
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From accounting/finance stand point whats important is good cash flow and positive accounting period.. Just like many biz and person out there debt is normal
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MU bisnes model.= top 4 and CL spot

then glazers will keep on sucking the money until new rich owner took over


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better hope Greenwood shine this season. martial can be hit or miss at the front.

damn. The thought of son and bale playing together. It's like a mirror of their self.
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Haha. Liverpool former ucl champion and epl champion pun boleh buy cheap. Kita pay and absurd amount of money or not buying at all due to our incompetences.

And to rub salt, Spurs also sailang us two times.

For me this is the worst transfer. If got sancho pun can he perform? How much will it cost? Does he have time to gel?

Sedih.
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News going round we might be buying from Watford instead of Dortmund.


Man Utd join race for Sarr
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The Red Devils have found a new target

Manchester United are looking at signing Watford’s Ismaila Sarr, reports the Independent.

Liverpool are also reportedly interested in the 22-year-old but the Red Devils are in a much better position to sign him as they fail to strike a deal for Borussia Dortmund star Jadon Sancho.

United have made initial contact with Watford about a possible deal for Sarr.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 18 2020, 09:57 AM)
News going round we might be buying from Watford instead of Dortmund.
Man Utd join race for Sarr
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The Red Devils have found a new target

Manchester United are looking at signing Watford’s Ismaila Sarr, reports the Independent.

Liverpool are also reportedly interested in the 22-year-old but the Red Devils are in a much better position to sign him as they fail to strike a deal for Borussia Dortmund star Jadon Sancho.

United have made initial contact with Watford about a possible deal for Sarr.
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If I was Dortmund and Sancho I'd be laughing and passing around the laughing gas. If Sancho is any good he'd be flogged to a Barca / Real for 200m no sweat in a year or two. If he's bad (and they'd know by now) then I think they can easily fax MU with a 80m offer and drive Sancho to the airport (ala Owen Hargreaves).

So, Woodward, time to pass that weed around man....Watford? I'm sure they breed them good over there. I hear they also have some CB's and strikers for 30m. While we're at it, lets also get their director of football.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 18 2020, 01:17 AM)
From accounting/finance stand point whats important is good cash flow and positive accounting period.. Just like many biz and person out there debt is normal
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except this debt is not caused by our normal business operations.. i think we are debt free before glazers take over and park their debt in the club..

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A Brief History of Manchester United Debt
As part of the takeover, the Glazers saddled the club with a large amount of debt. Around £265 million was secured by the club's assets, with the total amount of debt around £660 million.10

This was the first time the club had debt since 1931.11 The loans were provided by large American hedge funds, with interest rates on the debt amounting to approximately £62 million a year.12 A substantial portion of the loans were payment in-kind loans, which the club was paying 16.25% interest on at one point


https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05...o-much-debt.asp
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 18 2020, 09:57 AM)
News going round we might be buying from Watford instead of Dortmund.
Man Utd join race for Sarr
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The Red Devils have found a new target

Manchester United are looking at signing Watford’s Ismaila Sarr, reports the Independent.

Liverpool are also reportedly interested in the 22-year-old but the Red Devils are in a much better position to sign him as they fail to strike a deal for Borussia Dortmund star Jadon Sancho.

United have made initial contact with Watford about a possible deal for Sarr.
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wont mind him. but should have gone for him earlier... instead of going sancho but not willing to pay.
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Haha. Liverpool former ucl champion and epl champion pun boleh buy cheap. Kita pay and absurd amount of money or not buying at all due to our incompetences.

And to rub salt, Spurs also sailang us two times.

For me this is the worst transfer. If got sancho pun can he perform? How much will it cost? Does he have time to gel?

Sedih.
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"can he perform?"

yes, now pay the damn money

1. hes english, so can adapt fast, join his friends, gel with team mates wont be an issue
2. so much better player compared to MU current first team player who plays on the right wing
3. opportunity to play in bigger club than BVB, so more hungrier for success
4. hv played abroad at young age make him a very profesional with great attitude compared to other english local player
5. cost 120M without any offer from other big club, at his top form, injury free.. TOP FORM.. no club in the world with sane mind will let go their top form star player cheap, even woodward not willing to letgo smalling to roma in cheap

but unfortunately he doesnt fit glazers bisnes model the owner now only focus on saving money, top 4, CL spot, and suck the benefit out of this club

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wont mind him. but should have gone for him earlier... instead of going sancho but not willing to pay.
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Yeah. Our timing just stinks of bad planning.
Watford has already started the season and will be charging a premium for the risk of losing a player at this stage with no time to buy a replacement.

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Yeah. Our timing just stinks of bad planning.
Watford has already started the season and will be charging a premium for the risk of losing a player at this stage with no time to buy a replacement.
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agree. if want sancho just pay up and seal the deal early before the first game starts. now sancho saga just feels like wild goose chase je.

should have gone for other targets if the payment method is not agreed.
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Rio Ferdinand hits out at Man United's 'frustrating' transfer window and says Chelsea's spree proves there is no excuse for not landing top targets

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'Frank (Lampard) has made signing players like it's the norm, like it's easy – water off a duck's back,' Ferdinand said during an appearance on the Five YouTube Channel.

'The difference in the way Chelsea have done their business compared to say my team Man United… there is no noise, there's nothing going on, all you're seeing is bang – deal.

'Little bit of talk, bang-deal.

'That is what's frustrating for me and all the Man United fans.'

'Sancho was talked about months ago,' said Ferdinand. 'Still not done, it's so frustrating, I'm not saying deals are easy to be done but Chelsea are showing deals can be done if you put the money down and it's all done in the right way.'

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From accounting/finance stand point whats important is good cash flow and positive accounting period.. Just like many biz and person out there debt is normal
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err, if we're talking about 4mil in debt for a club of our stature, probably normal.. but it's really hard for me to contemplate a massive 430mil as normal.. u do realize this figure can easily cause us to run into administration with a click of a finger if, hypothetically, the glazers suddenly decided to pack-up and ignore this debt right? or their parent company in the US run into financial trouble?

we're lucky in history and cultural sense that we'd built ourself as a marketing juggernaut that the income generated is more than enough to service the interest of the debt, recruitment/investment and still left some dividend for the shareholders.. take the income away and we will probably be staring at a dark path ahead..

which bring to what im actually trying to point out earlier.. that despite covid19, we're still a very profitable club as compare with the others.. yes the empty stadium will affect matchday revenue in the short term.. but the image and broadcasting rights are still massive and its a long term cash cow.. subscription to MUTV a potential gem.. as well as the good-ol merchandising.. there are more, such as sponsorship, to name one.. in essence, we're much better off as compare with the others and I believe we do have the money to spend on signing players (else why would they target sancho in the first place right?)

that's why covid19 is not an excuse for the lack of investment so far (other mid-table teams are spending more than us, do they not affected by the pandemic?)..

ineptitude in negotiation and closing a deal is..
trying to save as much as possible to benefit the shareholder is..
lack of ambition is
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...olf-Friday.html

funny news hahaha. no wonder can't get la. ogs dunno play golf
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 18 2020, 10:43 AM)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...olf-Friday.html

funny news hahaha. no wonder can't get la. ogs dunno play golf
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would like to have him on loan... too bad we cant have him... otherwise we could have loan him and go for other positions now liao
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 17 2020, 09:55 PM)
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54175499
Over spent then end up need to balance the book then what? Lay off the staff working with the clubs? Like what some clubs had done?
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I think Kayu did good in one thing, still giving out wages to those matchday steward despite covid-19 pandemic. And did not apply pay cut on any staff or player. In return that has hurt us financially in transfer market.

To buy Sancho i believe we have to seek for loan, this loan might take us few years to pay back. Financial always come first because Glazer is not middle east tycoon or russian tycoon who able to pump in money as they like.

QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 18 2020, 10:43 AM)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...olf-Friday.html

funny news hahaha. no wonder can't get la. ogs dunno play golf
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Do u know how much will it cost to loan bale? 13mil is about 250k per week.
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United are still confident in landing Sancho this transfer window hence the lack of focus on alternatives. Unofficial feelers won't be answered or tolerated and would only respond to official bids. This is the latest inside story.

What I'm afraid of is another last minute buy where we overpay for our second options.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 18 2020, 11:22 AM)
United are still confident in landing Sancho this transfer window hence the lack of focus on alternatives. Unofficial feelers won't be answered or tolerated and would only respond to official bids. This is the latest inside story.

What I'm afraid of is another last minute buy where we overpay for our second options.
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good sharing there.. certainly hope so.. finger crossed
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 18 2020, 11:22 AM)
United are still confident in landing Sancho this transfer window hence the lack of focus on alternatives. Unofficial feelers won't be answered or tolerated and would only respond to official bids. This is the latest inside story.

What I'm afraid of is another last minute buy where we overpay for our second options.
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They talk like Dortmund want our player instead of the other way round....
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 18 2020, 11:29 AM)
good sharing there.. certainly hope so.. finger crossed
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 18 2020, 11:57 AM)
They talk like Dortmund want our player instead of the other way round....
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From what was explained, united don't want to submit bid as they don't want rejection and BVB wants formal bid so that they can reject and make their fan base happy but united are confident because they see sancho as a selling club and forsee next season window will even be have lower turnover value overall.

I just want to see 3 more players coming RW, LB, CB. Sancho or not doesn't matter.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 18 2020, 12:03 PM)
From what was explained, united don't want to submit bid as they don't want rejection and BVB wants formal bid so that they can reject and make their fan base happy but united are confident because they see sancho as a selling club and forsee next season window will even be have lower turnover value overall.

I just want to see 3 more players coming RW, LB, CB. Sancho or not doesn't matter.
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So this season just hang there with top 6? Then next season no UCL, while dortmund goes further than us, and then magically we can acquire him for less than 108m? I can get it easily if they just come out and say MUFC cannot afford a 108M player. Its simple. But telling me its better to buy next year plan doesn't make sense. Footballing wise and money wise.

By the way we need striker too.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 18 2020, 12:23 PM)
So this season just hang there with top 6? Then next season no UCL, while dortmund goes further than us, and then magically we can acquire him for less than 108m? I can get it easily if they just come out and say MUFC cannot afford a 108M player. Its simple. But telling me its better to buy next year plan doesn't make sense. Footballing wise and money wise.

By the way we need striker too.
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Rashford, martial, Greenwood, ighalo as strikers. There are strikers on the list, but I find it impossible to get 😂

MUFC can afford to buy, but have to split the payment. FFP still in effect. Not about having no cash in hand to buy. You can't just simply pay out of pocket anymore.
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I don't know what you're talking about short in cash nonsense. Best buy so far:

ST callum wilson to Newcastle, scored and won the game
RW fraser to Newcastle

This is Mike ashley, one of the worst owners in PL

CM doucoure to Everton and MOTM against spurs

CB Ake to city

There are players available, but let's admit it we are poor in transfers

Wolves without europa, Jimenez is going to score 20goals this season
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all these just scream incompetency
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Ighalo gone by Jan. So anything happen we are short 1. Even then I don't rate him as highly as say Giroud or Lacazette. In the 3rd bracket of strikers. What we need is those in the top or 2nd tier. Sure, they are hard to come by and costly but Raul Jimenez surely rings a bell. I'd dump 50 mil to 60 mil on him just to test wolves resolve.

Now back to Sancho. No money no honey end of story. Better spend the time explaining the lack of funds for the top 3 biggest club in the world, with the toppest 6 ambition lo.


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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 18 2020, 01:03 PM)
Ighalo gone by Jan. So anything happen we are short 1. Even then I don't rate him as highly as say Giroud or Lacazette. In the 3rd bracket of strikers. What we need is those in the top or 2nd tier. Sure, they are hard to come by and costly but Raul Jimenez surely rings a bell. I'd dump 50 mil to 60 mil on him just to test wolves resolve.

Now back to Sancho. No money no honey end of story. Better spend the time explaining the lack of funds for the top 3 biggest club in the world, with the toppest 6 ambition lo.
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by jan we can do a henrik larssen and get thierry henry back to epl. laugh.gif

speaking of wolves...

would like to see us try getting jota and neves.. but neves can get next season since we got vdb and we crowded in the middle...
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 18 2020, 02:04 PM)
by jan we can do a henrik larssen and get thierry henry back to epl.  laugh.gif

speaking of wolves...

would like to see us try getting jota and neves.. but neves can get next season since we got vdb and we crowded in the middle...
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Buy also Jimenez also pun sedap bruh
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From what was explained, united don't want to submit bid as they don't want rejection and BVB wants formal bid so that they can reject and make their fan base happy but united are confident because they see sancho as a selling club and forsee next season window will even be have lower turnover value overall.

I just want to see 3 more players coming RW, LB, CB. Sancho or not doesn't matter.
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if sancho is realized, then i suspect our transfer window will just end there.. i guess we can all agree sancho himself is still not enough
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 18 2020, 02:29 PM)
if sancho is realized, then i suspect our transfer window will just end there.. i guess we can all agree sancho himself is still not enough
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If I am sancho I also don’t want to come. Not enough ambition he will think. Possibility of him winning in Dortmund is more than here 😅
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 18 2020, 02:29 PM)
if sancho is realized, then i suspect our transfer window will just end there.. i guess we can all agree sancho himself is still not enough
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Sancho is never enough. We're light on quality backup everywhere except middle.

QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 18 2020, 02:33 PM)
If I am sancho I also don’t want to come. Not enough ambition he will think. Possibility of him winning in Dortmund is more than here 😅
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He's open to both moving and staying. United is not his first choice transfer option but we're the only one in this window and can give him huge wage increase.
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If I am sancho I also don’t want to come. Not enough ambition he will think. Possibility of him winning in Dortmund is more than here 😅
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precisely. Look at where we may end up end of the season, may well end up max top 6. Remember earlier last season we say oOOhh must qualify for UCL if not no money or no prestige to attract Sancho...bla bla bla

now are there, still can't attract. afterwards end of season out of UCL, more excuses further...real bull crap this.
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Buy also Jimenez also pun sedap bruh
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If I am sancho I also don’t want to come. Not enough ambition he will think. Possibility of him winning in Dortmund is more than here 😅
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i do think he is very open in joining us (else he can just come out and stop this saga once and for all by saying he's staying right).. at the same time, he is conducting himself very well and professionally (no tantrums, no transfer request, etc).. a value trait there

u're spot on with the ambition.. probably the glazers are content with 4th.. or 5th or 6th.. and then inject just enough money to prop us back to 4th again

QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 18 2020, 02:42 PM)
Sancho is never enough. We're light on quality backup everywhere except middle.

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we're stocked with quality backup in defence eh? deadwood quality that is tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 18 2020, 03:23 PM)
i do think he is very open in joining us (else he can just come out and stop this saga once and for all by saying he's staying right).. at the same time, he is conducting himself very well and professionally (no tantrums, no transfer request, etc).. a value trait there

u're spot on with the ambition.. probably the glazers are content with 4th.. or 5th or 6th.. and then inject just enough money to prop us back to 4th again
we're stocked with quality backup in defence eh? deadwood quality that is tongue.gif
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That's the quality that OGS want in the dressing room.

Until now we still unable to offload Jones, Perreira, Lingard, Rojo, Smalling. This one i think can hantam Kayu because he always sell players at damn low value. If Smalling selling at 10mil pound to Roma, might as well cancel the sales and retain him as a backup players.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 18 2020, 03:04 PM)
precisely. Look at where we may end up end of the season, may well end up max top 6. Remember earlier last season we say oOOhh must qualify for UCL if not no money or no prestige to attract Sancho...bla bla bla

now are there, still can't attract. afterwards end of season out of UCL, more excuses further...real bull crap this.
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that's a total let down to the squad isn't it.. all the hardwork and progress we've made on the pitch is not backed to improve further


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 18 2020, 03:28 PM)
That's the quality that OGS want in the dressing room.

Until now we still unable to offload Jones, Perreira, Lingard, Rojo, Smalling. This one i think can hantam Kayu because he always sell players at damn low value. If Smalling selling at 10mil pound to Roma, might as well cancel the sales and retain him as a backup players.
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yea, which bring to another frustration where we can go on and on.. we can't even sell the players we wanted to part ways with for goodness sake.. are we really taking how-not-to-be-good-at-negotiation to the next level? is that why they don't have the extra fund for further signings?
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 18 2020, 10:05 AM)
except this debt is not caused by our normal business operations.. i think we are debt free before glazers take over and park their debt in the club..
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05...o-much-debt.asp
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 18 2020, 10:41 AM)
err, if we're talking about 4mil in debt for a club of our stature, probably normal.. but it's really hard for me to contemplate a massive 430mil as normal.. u do realize this figure can easily cause us to run into administration with a click of a finger if, hypothetically, the glazers suddenly decided to pack-up and ignore this debt right? or their parent company in the US run into financial trouble?

we're lucky in history and cultural sense that we'd built ourself as a marketing juggernaut that the income generated is more than enough to service the interest of the debt, recruitment/investment and still left some dividend for the shareholders.. take the income away and we will probably be staring at a dark path ahead..

which bring to what im actually trying to point out earlier.. that despite covid19, we're still a very profitable club as compare with the others.. yes the empty stadium will affect matchday revenue in the short term.. but the image and broadcasting rights are still massive and its a long term cash cow.. subscription to MUTV a potential gem.. as well as the good-ol merchandising.. there are more, such as sponsorship, to name one.. in essence, we're much better off as compare with the others and I believe we do have the money to spend on signing players (else why would they target sancho in the first place right?)

that's why covid19 is not an excuse for the lack of investment so far (other mid-table teams are spending more than us, do they not affected by the pandemic?)..

ineptitude in negotiation and closing a deal is..
trying to save as much as possible to benefit the shareholder is..
lack of ambition is
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united value and asset worth much more. at one point the debt actually much bigger..

as for current 430mil massive rise over 100mil due to covid pandemic so we very much affected. not sure united still profitable now since the debt is rising.

bigger club likely more affected as they got bigger expenses like salary. who know how long before everything normal again. if we did spend big at the end hopefully not putting united in bigger debt and negative earning

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/spo...lained-18288587

here about the debt on May. article said United still have cash reserves of just over £90million, as well as access to £150million in credit. the issue might be we simply dont hv enough cash and prefer installment if any



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From the way the Glazers and Woodward are running it, we are a business first.
Marketing brand second.
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I remember some pitchside reporter once said on Astro, "Kayu is the best in the world in making money".
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I remember some pitchside reporter once said on Astro, "Kayu is the best in the world in making money".
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That is very true.
Commercially, his numbers are a huge success to the club. The Glazers specifically.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 18 2020, 11:22 AM)
United are still confident in landing Sancho this transfer window hence the lack of focus on alternatives. Unofficial feelers won't be answered or tolerated and would only respond to official bids. This is the latest inside story.

What I'm afraid of is another last minute buy where we overpay for our second options.
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I guess, Kayu want to "do Bruno Fernandes". Publicly voice the intent on player, negotiate here and there with the club, until player itself push the club for transfer.

While I do like Sancho, however, I don't like the fact that we previously paid the ransom money to the player that we want, like - Harry Maguire. So at this rate, I do not think that we'll get Sancho if Dortmund still do not agree with the payment term that MU proposed.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 18 2020, 03:28 PM)
That's the quality that OGS want in the dressing room.

Until now we still unable to offload Jones, Perreira, Lingard, Rojo, Smalling. This one i think can hantam Kayu because he always sell players at damn low value. If Smalling selling at 10mil pound to Roma, might as well cancel the sales and retain him as a backup players.
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Sep 18 2020, 04:06 PM)
yea, which bring to another frustration where we can go on and on.. we can't even sell the players we wanted to part ways with for goodness sake.. are we really taking how-not-to-be-good-at-negotiation to the next level? is that why they don't have the extra fund for further signings?
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Who says that ole wants them gone? 😉

QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 18 2020, 05:57 PM)
yup we all know how glazer bought the club by putting loan on the club.. cant change the past what important now good cash flow
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Supporters, English billionaire whom is a fan, Arabs and Asian alliance together with club past players all tried to buy the club back before. All failed. Our Asian side tried for 3 billion backed by 3 real Asian billionaires (not the Tony fernandez style for business and personal benefits), this is about 10 years ago.


QUOTE(DarkWan @ Sep 18 2020, 08:11 PM)
I guess, Kayu want to "do Bruno Fernandes". Publicly voice the intent on player, negotiate here and there with the club, until player itself push the club for transfer.

While I do like Sancho, however, I don't like the fact that we previously paid the ransom money to the player that we want, like - Harry Maguire. So at this rate, I do not think that we'll get Sancho if Dortmund still do not agree with the payment term that MU proposed.
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I never liked players forcing a move, respect your contract. It will bite you back in the ass. Respect the club, keep it behind closed doors.

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Ole is facing the press and talking nonsense, making excuses for the whole management as they go.....”small pool of players” my ass. We are 3rd for goodness sake. Am I to believe there is a worldwide lack of players who can improve us? Are you saying our existing players are so damn good already that we don’t need any strengthening? Then win the league dammit.

At some point I pity him for having to put up with this crap, but once you start defending them you are just part of the problem man. Someone bring in Rio please, I’m sure he’ll do the job.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 19 2020, 07:51 AM)
Ole is facing the press and talking nonsense, making excuses for the whole management as they go.....”small pool of players” my ass. We are 3rd for goodness sake. Am I to believe there is a worldwide lack of players who can improve us? Are you saying our existing players are so damn good already that we don’t need any strengthening? Then win the league dammit.

At some point I pity him for having to put up with this crap, but once you start defending them you are just part of the problem man. Someone bring in Rio please, I’m sure he’ll do the job.
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Ole didn't defend the board. If you listen carefully when James Cooper ask about fans dissatisfaction on online media. Ole didn't condemn the fans nor he supports the board. He simply said "we need the passion of the fans that what United built for so long and used to be"

He said "we need strengthen and improves and start with good momentum"

If you read between the line Ole is at our side and disappointed not to buy players that could affect the good momentum at early season and positve start is so important
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I'm not surprised we not getting anyone this season aside from VDB

This Telles news is a smokescreen from Sancho failure
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Sep 19 2020, 08:10 AM)
Ole didn't defend the board. If you listen carefully when James Cooper ask about fans dissatisfaction on online media. Ole didn't condemn the fans nor he supports the board. He simply said "we need the passion of the fans that what United built for so long and used to be"

He said "we need strengthen and improves and start with good momentum"

If you read between the line Ole is at our side and disappointed not to buy players that could affect the good momentum at early season and positve start is so important
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"We're looking at a small pool of players that can add to the quality of our team, and let's see what we can do. They are working hard and I understand that they are working hard


I gotta ask, how hard are we talking like Chelsea hard, Arsenal hard, Liverpool hard or City hard? Hell im gonna throw in Leeds hard.

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 19 2020, 07:51 AM)
Ole is facing the press and talking nonsense, making excuses for the whole management as they go.....”small pool of players” my ass. We are 3rd for goodness sake. Am I to believe there is a worldwide lack of players who can improve us? Are you saying our existing players are so damn good already that we don’t need any strengthening? Then win the league dammit.

At some point I pity him for having to put up with this crap, but once you start defending them you are just part of the problem man. Someone bring in Rio please, I’m sure he’ll do the job.
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oh mate, i think u got the wrong interpretation of what ole meant in the press conference..

instead of explaining or arguing what he meant word by word, i'll just stop here.. rather than turning this into an english lesson


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Baru talk about jota few post back. Now Liverpool already closing in. The management is bodoh if we only have one signing. We are no 3 last season. It is something that can be improve. So frustrated you know.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co....-transfers/amp/
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So chelsea have an owner who like to spend to improve the squad.

Liverpool got an owner who like to buy cheap but quality players.

And here we are, got an owner who drain every pound from the club bank and don’t care about winning or losing as long as they can make money. So sad indeed..
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 19 2020, 10:21 AM)
Baru talk about jota few post back. Now Liverpool already closing in. The management is bodoh if we only have one signing. We are no 3 last season. It is something that can be improve. So frustrated you know.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co....-transfers/amp/
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 19 2020, 10:25 AM)
So chelsea have an owner who like to spend to improve the squad.

Liverpool got an owner who like to buy cheap but quality players.

And here we are, got an owner who drain every pound from the club bank and don’t care about winning or losing as long as they can make money. So sad indeed..
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totally feel ur frustration..

we have a match tonight.. hopefully can have a result that will make us all feel a bit better for a few hours

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totally feel ur frustration..

we have a match tonight.. hopefully can have a result that will make us all feel a bit better for a few hours
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Yes, our entire frame of mind will rest on the result of our uupcoming game. With the negativity surrounding transfers.
If we get a result, the ipression will be we have a good squad but lacking a bit of depth for the later half of the season.
But if we don't get a result, expect the pitchforks to come out. And don't rule out another airplane banner about Woodward.
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well maybe it's not about negotiation skill. as a forumer pointed few weeks ago, maybe the agenda behind is just to keep ucl qualification for maximise profit. if out of ucl, pump money again.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 19 2020, 07:51 AM)
Ole is facing the press and talking nonsense, making excuses for the whole management as they go.....”small pool of players” my ass. We are 3rd for goodness sake. Am I to believe there is a worldwide lack of players who can improve us? Are you saying our existing players are so damn good already that we don’t need any strengthening? Then win the league dammit.

At some point I pity him for having to put up with this crap, but once you start defending them you are just part of the problem man. Someone bring in Rio please, I’m sure he’ll do the job.
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you no defend board like jose fallout, then you get fired when result not go your way haha. even if buat bising on board, you aint getting any players
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 19 2020, 11:56 AM)
well maybe it's not about negotiation skill. as a forumer pointed few weeks ago, maybe the agenda behind is just to keep ucl qualification for maximise profit. if out of ucl, pump money again.
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Sounds like we are the new Arsenal.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 19 2020, 10:21 AM)
Baru talk about jota few post back. Now Liverpool already closing in. The management is bodoh if we only have one signing. We are no 3 last season. It is something that can be improve. So frustrated you know.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co....-transfers/amp/
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Jota will add depth to liverpool.. He more left side of attack if any we should go for sarr. He got pace also would fit united more. Easily an upgrade of james. But if we go for sarr.. Sancho sure wont come even next season
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you no defend board like jose fallout, then you get fired when result not go your way haha. even if buat bising on board, you aint getting any players
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Correcto!

In the end we are all just in different stages of grief. Difference being I'm well past acceptance, some of our bro's here maybe in denial or anger.

Difference between us and Ole is that he's being handsomely paid to take on this poisoned chalice, and try his luck with the great roller coaster and while we have the choice to watch or not watch and how much emotion you want to invest in.

End of the day, game is already fixed....we aint gonna spend, the risk reward too great from a business standpoint.

By the way, I'm taking matters into my own hands:
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Edit: Kasi Chan la Macha, I just started back since not dabbling in CM/FM for around 15 years.

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 19 2020, 02:00 PM)
Correcto!

In the end we are all just in different stages of grief. Difference being I'm well past acceptance, some of our bro's here maybe in denial or anger.

Difference between us and Ole is that he's being handsomely paid to take on this poisoned chalice, and try his luck with the great roller coaster and while we have the choice to watch or not watch and how much emotion you want to invest in.

End of the day, game is already fixed....we aint gonna spend, the risk reward too great from a business standpoint.

By the way, I'm taking matters into my own hands:
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Edit: Kasi Chan la Macha, I just started back since not dabbling in CM/FM for around 15 years.
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Haha free from epic games? Coincidentally i just claimed the game also, gonna start tonight. I start by taking salford hahaha
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 19 2020, 03:36 PM)
Haha free from epic games? Coincidentally i just claimed the game also, gonna start tonight. I start by taking salford hahaha
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Ya...free games why not. By the way I realised all clubs taking the piss out of ManU even in virtual world. Players slightly better than lingardinho asking me for 80M++. Lol. Feel so bad for Woodie now. Dont even need to approach Sancho. Can only buy his dog.
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Haha free from epic games? Coincidentally i just claimed the game also, gonna start tonight. I start by taking salford hahaha
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Salford to CL champion and Mbappe transfer!
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 19 2020, 02:00 PM)
Correcto!

In the end we are all just in different stages of grief. Difference being I'm well past acceptance, some of our bro's here maybe in denial or anger.

Difference between us and Ole is that he's being handsomely paid to take on this poisoned chalice, and try his luck with the great roller coaster and while we have the choice to watch or not watch and how much emotion you want to invest in.

End of the day, game is already fixed....we aint gonna spend, the risk reward too great from a business standpoint.

By the way, I'm taking matters into my own hands:
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laugh.gif good luck getting rid of sanchez on 400k gaji until 2022
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 19 2020, 10:21 AM)
Baru talk about jota few post back. Now Liverpool already closing in. The management is bodoh if we only have one signing. We are no 3 last season. It is something that can be improve. So frustrated you know.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co....-transfers/amp/
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Done deal, 45m

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54214671
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Surprisingly Fosu Mensah got the start, look like OGS is giving AWB and Greenwood a lesson here
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Surprisingly Fosu Mensah got the start, look like OGS is giving AWB and Greenwood a lesson here
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lucky our match 1230 can watch. arsenal 3am ==

as much as i say james sampah towards end of season, hope he can get back early season form again

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With this kind of defense, we are better off with 3-5-2. At least with stronger midfield, less chance of the ball getting to back...
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Lindelof getting worse after he know his spot is guaranteed
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All big teams bz scoring goals last week while we trailing at our season opener

Baru nak start sudah doom, at home pulak tu

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Only shaw playing. Rest are shit
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Our right side really clueless. TFM and Dan James can't do anything.
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Haiz dan james not right winger... Stop forcing him to be one... Just get a decent right winger tahan dulu for us, we always lost one attacking side... Fosu mensah low cross quite decent but the strikers positioning sucks
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Right side are dead. With minimum pressure, CP can easily block all the passes. Dan James just fast, not a good dribbler, passer.
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He works hard but not smart enough unfortunately.
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ya. got some time tfm in front of him, but he didnt pass. opt for backpass. like this put jlingz better
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My god pogba, soft soft pass lost the ball so many time

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maguire ooooo maguire... camner nak jadi captain ni....
defend lembut, pass lembut...

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Why the linesmen din straight raise the flag for offside?
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Why the linesmen din straight raise the flag for offside?
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Changes to the rules if not wrong.

Great....Lindeloof handball doh.gif

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 20 2020, 01:58 AM)
Changes to the rules if not wrong.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 20 2020, 02:00 AM)
Ok, but what's the point of waiting?
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1st game lost 2-0. Hmm

Opss I was wrong

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QUOTE(areankim @ Sep 20 2020, 02:01 AM)
if there is another player who is not offside, race fwd, play the ball. hehe
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Stupid game... Good night... Even var also let them retake
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Kek..might as well let CP kick until score
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maguire AGAIN!!!! AGAIN!! losses the ball same place again, same pass..
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After down 2 goals then only want to play with urgency.. before that playing like leading 3 - 0, boring sideway passes, movements slow as hell
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Come on!

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QUOTE(three2wan @ Sep 20 2020, 02:10 AM)
Damn bodoh la maguire.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Sep 20 2020, 02:11 AM)
After down 2 goals then only want to play with urgency.. before that playing like leading 3 - 0, boring sideway passes, movements slow as hell
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Same gameplay as last 5 season i think
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3 goals all lindelof. How shit can a player be?
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3 goals to Lindelof. haizzzzz terrible.
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Haha..keep wanting to buy sancho..CB and striker problem even bigger
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Not possible to buy CB, all money use to buy sancho and LB... LOL! Smalling pls come back
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 20 2020, 02:19 AM)
Not possible to buy CB, all money use to buy sancho and LB... LOL! Smalling pls come back
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i cant see maguire giving any reaction at all, for all the mistakes the team make.

bruno shakes his head with maguire pass hahaha shocking.gif

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Absolute mayhem.

Disaster

Catastrophe

Morons

Tactical clueless

Simple pass also failed, worse than Sunday league futsal players

Did I miss out anything?
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Ok la. I rather have smalling or jones there. I never seen a cb at fault on 3 goals. At least smalling jones at fault on 1 goal usually
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QUOTE(areankim @ Sep 20 2020, 02:21 AM)
i cant see maguire giving any reaction at all, for all the mistakes the team make.
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Vdb sure regret coming here lol

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QUOTE(areankim @ Sep 20 2020, 02:21 AM)
i cant see maguire giving any reaction at all, for all the mistakes the team make.

bruno shakes his head with maguire pass hahaha shocking.gif
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Cause he also makes alot mistake

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i think we have a bigger problem with CB
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Both position also got big problem..this team cant defend at all..maguire slow as fark..his partner dont even need to mention..while at the front no one knows how to poach in the box..all saja tau dribble..even dribble also fail..when opponent park the bus..all attackers dont onoe what to do..

Bruno and vdb sure regret coming here..shud have gone to liverpool better future..kek
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The players looks clueless. Don't know what to do.
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Boring attacking play. So easy to defend. Predictable. Play on wings je.

Its over for lindelof. Smalling definitely better, blind ka Ole? Maguire also mcm selamba. Blast ur teammates la
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 20 2020, 02:23 AM)
Boring attacking play. So easy to defend. Predictable. Play on wings je.

Its over for lindelof. Smalling definitely better, blind ka Ole? Maguire also mcm selamba. Blast ur teammates la
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Both our Cb should be blame. Both making mistakes left and right
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QUOTE(areankim @ Sep 20 2020, 02:21 AM)
i cant see maguire giving any reaction at all, for all the mistakes the team make.

bruno shakes his head with maguire pass hahaha shocking.gif
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Like i said... Other teams already started pre season ahead of us... And we like baru warm up only... Lol... This is meant to happen... Maguire not in the form... Lindelof bcum next boomsong... And we lost bissaka... If bissaka in... He will cover some of the lindelof mistakes
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Liverpool jus signed another player.

Chelsea also signed mendy, maybe Rice next. Kai hvnt announce

Tot also signed 2.

United think they are sufficient to challenge? Lol
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Really impress on how Shaw has progress. The best player tonight I think for our team.
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Really impress on how Shaw has progress. The best player tonight I think for our team.
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The hell Mc Tominnay is untouchable from cdm change to rb. And lindelof the ice man is really frozen!
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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Sep 20 2020, 02:27 AM)
Really impress on how Shaw has progress. The best player tonight I think for our team.
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He is our best player tonight, despite him possibly could have got ahead of townssend for 1st goal.
Lindelof was shocking tonight, maguire too.
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Really impress on how Shaw has progress. The best player tonight I think for our team.
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pogba/lindelof etc are major let off
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We are in the worst possible luck also... Maguire legal case... Pogba covid bissaka quarantine... Matic i think also quarantine... Lol... And best thing is we dont have pre season and terus start epl... If only europa we won it at least not so angry... We loss europa and we extend our holiday... LOL!
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Dah la transfer windows bad. Now gameplay also bad.

Seen Ed face feels wanna punch the tv
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united have more talented players than CP but still play shit. honestly even put sancho still cant win with their weak mentality like that.
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i will be pissed with ogs if lindeloft start next game. should play in reserve for some months. maguire is also crappy since last season, but his mistake usually don't lead to goal, which is less damaging.

rashford is totally missing from the game. can't even see what he contribute. jogba is making mistakes here and there.

happy that vdb looks good, ddg back on form. martial shaw greenwood mctominay are consistent.

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Since the board dont want to buy better players.. why dont try other formation instead of keep insisting on 4-3-3..

Too many passes to the sides were intercepted.. the opponent expected those passes already.. if Roy Hodgson can read n predict your tactical approach other managers for sure can lol

United will get battered if play like this in CL
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We just lost to team that managed by Roy Hodgson. ROFL
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chill guys..

target top 4 .. still 37 match to go

..and lindelof oh my god so shit

all bsck 4 are shit

bruno playing 3 position today..
AM, CDM , CB
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Lel this Maguire de gea lindelof trio is not working. Blind or what
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Sep 20 2020, 02:33 AM)
Since the board dont want to buy better players.. why dont try other formation instead of keep insisting on 4-3-3..

Too many passes to the sides were intercepted.. the opponent expected those passes already.. if Roy Hodgson can read n predict your tactical approach other managers for sure can lol

United will get battered if play like this in CL
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 20 2020, 02:35 AM)
chill guys..

target top 4 .. still 37 match to go

..and lindelof oh my god so shit

all bsck 4 are shit

bruno playing 3 position today..
AM, CDM , CB
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look at how he was in disbelieve with how those playing around him bangwall.gif
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I think I probably will not watch any midnight football matches from now onwards ...especially when I'm growing older and with this kind of shite performance
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I think I probably will not watch any midnight football matches from now onwards ...especially when I'm growing older and with this kind of shite performance
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 20 2020, 02:35 AM)
chill guys..

target top 4 .. still 37 match to go

..and lindelof oh my god so shit

all bsck 4 are shit

bruno playing 3 position today..
AM, CDM , CB
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Dont sell smalling yet.. Very poor game lindelof
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ole after lost to sevilla game ..

"we want right wing, left footed centre back, and left back"

asswoodward: "ok"

Van De Beek 30M

..now how can u guys not say that F word

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Thorbaik zaha.

Bila mau resign balik?
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can't say i'm surprised at all. We began the match exactly as we ended the season a few weeks ago.

All you will see from this team is a short run of good form and permanent run of bad defense, low energy pressing (which is laughable).


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Bruno already knew how shitty lindelof is since the Sevilla game.
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haha. maybe we win 5-0 later.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 20 2020, 02:23 AM)
Boring attacking play. So easy to defend. Predictable. Play on wings je.

Its over for lindelof. Smalling definitely better, blind ka Ole? Maguire also mcm selamba. Blast ur teammates la
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QUOTE(sheng @ Sep 20 2020, 08:54 AM)
we need 2 new CB..not one..lol
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hahahahah 2???
the entire defense la
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can't say i'm surprised at all. We began the match exactly as we ended the season a few weeks ago.

All you will see from this team is a short run of good form and permanent run of bad defense, low energy pressing (which is laughable).
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back to FM lar. talk so much oso no use. the bodo up there won't hear a thing.

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 20 2020, 08:57 AM)
hahahahah 2???
the entire defense la
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Shaw looks lively first half tho.
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lively doesnt mean he did his job as a left back
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I think Shaw did ok to be fair. He had an error which lead to the first goal in tracking runners, but we have to give half the blame to Lidnelof on this one as he should've stopped the cross in the first place.
Our main issue is with both Lindelof and Maguire. Lindelof requires no description from me. Maguire was horrendous, giving the ball away cheaply on a few occasions.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 20 2020, 09:58 AM)
I think Shaw did ok to be fair. He had an error which lead to the first goal in tracking runners, but we have to give half the blame to Lidnelof on this one as he should've stopped the cross in the first place.
Our main issue is with both Lindelof and Maguire. Lindelof requires no description from me. Maguire was horrendous, giving the ball away cheaply on a few occasions.
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that error by Shaw led to crystal palace parking the bus all time , united play high line and get counter attacked by them many times. like Evra said, he just lazy and guessing.
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Don't need to blame any 1 individual. The whole team was lousy. Its like picking out a good piece of meat from rubbish bin.

You don't start the match slower than visiting team. You don't press half hearted anywhere in the pitch...and then when your marauding left back is high up then the left sided CB must cover or at least organise some cover.afterwards when you are down 1 goal you need 5 different ways to get penetrate not just route 1. Its so damn easy if you see City getting behind. Or Liverpool. So, yes Shaw is lively and get 10/10 but it means nothing as only the scoreline and 3 points matters.
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One more thing. We must be the easiest team to beat if we concede first. I don't have proof but if some statistic guru checks this I'm sure my anecdotal feeling will be justified.
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Buy sancho lah...every problem will be solved..

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ironically, nowadays our kapitan always play sux. back in lvg rooney days, he is the worst performer but kapitan always start.

then jogba as captain? lul. now maguire.

i rather play with academy kids than see lindeloft playing. waste of space. with vdb in, jogba still not buck up. at least ddg buck up with henderson on his neck.
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the whole team at fault... so lackadaisical.. including the manager.. after that VAR penalty decision, then only come down from bench..
2nd half starts the same as the 1st half.. no urgency at all.. what did Ole tell the players to get that lazy ass response..

United really messed up big time.. cheapskate debt-bringer owner, non footballing background CEO, one dimensional manager, inexperience coaching staffs and lazy overpaid players..
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Agreed with Evra here, VDB is better player since he roam around a lot more than Pogba


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All players that left the club performing better than before when they were under ole. Majority of players regress under ole. First game of the season sets the tone for future games.

Ole out before it's too late. You all can jilat his balls for all I care, but his tactics are damn amateurish.
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Sep 20 2020, 10:24 AM)
that error by Shaw led to crystal palace parking the bus all time , united play high line and get counter attacked by them many times. like Evra said, he just lazy and guessing.
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Wont call it an error.. Shaw were running back even before the cross was made. The cross was wide closer to townsend and shaw did able to slide across but the strike is above his leg. Lindelof too easy letting the cross made so quick. But credit goes to townsend too thts a good first touch strike
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While Lindelof should do better to stop the cross coming in, Shaw did fail to mark the runner, he was caught napping there.
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QUOTE(seed84 @ Sep 20 2020, 02:38 PM)
While Lindelof should do better to stop the cross coming in, Shaw did fail to mark the runner, he was caught napping there.
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Dont think we are playing man marking.. He was running back covering the central area infront of the runner. When he notice the cross was wide and closer to townsend he did closing down to him and try to block. Looking back at replay palace actually got another man also more open.. Mctominay no where near him. Poor defending overall
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 20 2020, 02:59 PM)
Dont think we are playing man marking.. He was running back covering the central area infront of the runner. When he notice the cross was wide and closer to townsend he did closing down to him and try to block. Looking back at replay palace actually got another man also more open.. Mctominay no where near him. Poor defending overall
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Zonal marking. With lots of gaps in between because Palace was playing mobile and Zaha had freedom to roam. There was also man marking on Zaha but this exposed gaps when defenders were dragged towards him leaving more holes than our defenders were able to cover. Maguire and lindelof were also lazy, just sticking out a foot to defend. Amateurish.
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Yeah we're not playing man marking, tracking is a more appropriate term. He really should have covered his area the moment there's a hint of danger, but was way behind and let Townsend sneak in.

In fact, Mctominay and TFM also didn't track their man, just like everyone turn off and hoping Lindelof will marshal the LW out of play.

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QUOTE(seed84 @ Sep 20 2020, 04:26 PM)
Yeah we're not playing man marking, tracking is a more appropriate term. He really should have covered his area the moment there's a hint of danger, but was way behind and let Townsend sneak in.

In fact, Mctominay and TFM also didn't track their man, just like everyone turn off and hoping Lindelof will marshal the LW out of play.

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Credit for the pass for the first goal. That low ball took out 2 defenders and the keeper.

I was more worried about the ayew shot in the first half saved by De gea. 5 of our players were drawn to the ball. It's like watching kids play in the playground.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 20 2020, 02:11 PM)
Wont call it an error.. Shaw were running back even before the cross was made. The cross was wide closer to townsend and shaw did able to slide across but the strike is above his leg. Lindelof too easy letting the cross made so quick. But credit goes to townsend too thts a good first touch strike
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evra said shaw should line up with cb. he said he made this mistake before. he is the one who said this, so you literally going against him who has experience playing football.
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first goal not entirely lindeloft fault. half fault. 2nd goal unlucky, if want to def him. 3rd goal is just pure amateur, kena bully like that.

all in all, just don't like him lol. maybe because of him, we lost to sevilla.
on another note. all players that jose bought are rubbish
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Jangan gaduh la kawan. We are hopeless anyway this season unless miracle happen we buy reinforcement to cover out flaw. If not, can say bye bye to liverpool, chelsea, city, Leicester Spurs and everton. Top 7 here we come.
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Bruno Fernandes the best defender last night.

Lindelof is totally useless alongside with Mc Tomminay.
Why not pick Fred instead of Mc Tomminay
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actually not to depress you guys any further, but I watch The Last Dance which in a way is a fine representation of EPL as they also face generally equal spending (many rich teams and much much sponsors everywhere) , limited player pool with their draft system and generally speaking playing field that is designed to make things hard to stay on top. Even Lakers face a hard time rebuilding after Kobe. It seems once you slip out of your perch, your dynasty ends. The English cycle may well be 20+ years. Just look at how long its taking Arsenal from Invincibles to now, still stuck. Chelsea is the one exception.

And in Spain, its much easier as the rest of the teams are much poorly funded than the top 2.

In Germany there is a top 1.

Going back to my cave. Now it has FM and air cond and high speed internets.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 20 2020, 09:04 PM)
actually not to depress you guys any further, but I watch The Last Dance which in a way is a fine representation of EPL as they also face generally equal spending (many rich teams and much much sponsors everywhere) , limited player pool with their draft system and generally speaking playing field that is designed to make things hard to stay on top. Even Lakers face a hard time rebuilding after Kobe. It seems once you slip out of your perch, your dynasty ends. The English cycle may well be 20+ years. Just look at how long its taking Arsenal from Invincibles to now, still stuck. Chelsea is the one exception.

And in Spain, its much easier as the rest of the teams are much poorly funded than the top 2.

In Germany there is a top 1.

Going back to my cave. Now it has FM and air cond and high speed internets.
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i'm impressed with chelsea, when roman splash cash, title always come. dunno lampard can pull it off or not. i was hoping we can but sigh......
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Sep 20 2020, 04:48 PM)
evra said shaw should line up with cb. he said he made this mistake before. he is the one who said this, so you literally going against him who has experience playing football.
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Pundits.. experience player had different idea, clash of opinion many times. Not trying to go against you or evra la. Its my opinion as i see it

For sure shaw can do better.. The cross not just pass him but maguire and ddg. Still he able to slide across trying to block the shot. If the shot were lower it would hit shaw leg and he would be praised for a good block instead. Fine margin..
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Sep 20 2020, 08:50 PM)
Bruno Fernandes the best defender last night.

Lindelof is totally useless alongside with Mc Tomminay.
Why not pick Fred instead of Mc Tomminay
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dont know what happened to matic... he is still the most reliable dm in the team.. postioning wise..
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 20 2020, 10:59 PM)
i'm impressed with chelsea, when roman splash cash, title always come. dunno lampard can pull it off or not. i was hoping we can but sigh......
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because roman prioritise cfc trophies.. if the manager needs players he will just buy... once the manager cant deliver, he will change manager.... until the manager wins the trophy for them
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 20 2020, 07:54 PM)
first goal not entirely lindeloft fault. half fault. 2nd goal unlucky, if want to def him. 3rd goal is just pure amateur, kena bully like that.

all in all, just don't like him lol. maybe because of him, we lost to sevilla.
on another note. all players that jose bought are rubbish
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blanket statement that Jose's transfers are rubbish is too harsh.
Jose did won us 2 + 1 trophies with his transfers.

last 2 seasons Lindeloft was doing alright, i feel he deep dived after Maguire joined us
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QUOTE(Broadings @ Sep 21 2020, 08:38 AM)
blanket statement that Jose's transfers are rubbish is too harsh.
Jose did won us 2 + 1 trophies with his transfers.

last 2 seasons Lindeloft was doing alright, i feel he deep dived after Maguire joined us
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Lindelof's dip post Maguire is a product of them playing similar defensive styles.
Both would be more comfortable playing alongside a faster defender who engages forwards so they can cover and mop up. Play both together, and they don't complement each other. It is like instead of Ferdinand-Vidic, you go for Ferdinand-Ferdinand.

We needed a pacey, left footed central defender. And none has arrived.
Surprised to see Luke Shaw putting out a statement about needing reinforcements today. If even the players themselves are saying it, the situation has gone Defcon 4.


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i blame OLE

his reaction for a manager way too cool to lose like this

what he do during season break? 1 friendly match only
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i blame OLE

his reaction for a manager way too cool to lose like this

what he do during season break? 1 friendly match only
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You need to take into account the previous season ended barely 30 days ago.
All the players just got back and the could only schedule a single friendly into the off season.

I do not think Ole's handling on the shortest off season in PL history is an issue.
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dont know why, with Pogba on field, no more creativity pass from Bruno.
try play without Pogba next game.
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QUOTE(ashportal @ Sep 21 2020, 09:47 AM)
i blame OLE

his reaction for a manager way too cool to lose like this

what he do during season break? 1 friendly match only
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Few weeks before this we have player playing for their respective country, so the timing was damn pack for Ole to have his own full squad in fitness.
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QUOTE(ahcab @ Sep 21 2020, 10:18 AM)
dont know why, with Pogba on field, no more creativity pass from Bruno.
try play without Pogba next game.
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Pogba is a failure for United
Since his arrival, United have spent money to buy players and managers have alter tactics to accomodate pogba

Pogba is too slow for EPL
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guys, it's only matchday two and we're already 6 points behind arsenal.. the extra game in hand counts for nothing if ourself did not pick up the points in front of us right.. disappointment is so overstated now

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alamak. this season kena equal record from pool ah?

bodoh punya kepa again give free goal. pair him with lindeloft, smalling and jones, we get topkek defense


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fabrizio says 1 lb 1 winger coming bo...

no cb coming tho...
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 21 2020, 10:01 AM)
You need to take into account the previous season ended barely 30 days ago.
All the players just got back and the could only schedule a single friendly into the off season.

I do not think Ole's handling on the shortest off season in PL history is an issue.
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i have been seriously thinking about this "FACT".

So evaluating the conditions and making some comparisons to the teams with late season ending last season;
1. PSG - Having a poor start
2. Bayern - Having a banging start
3. Sevilla - Not started season yet.

Perhaps there is some truth to the issue. Perhaps we are too harsh on the team as they are barely warming up with Covid+Pogba. But look at Bayern, they can do it....So I'm still not completely satisfied.

We knew it was gonna be a problem, and yet there is nothing to be done? Accept that our first 3 matches gonna throw away? Thats -9 points to start the season....By then we are facing Chelsea, Tottenham, Everton, Arsenal....Who's gonna bet we may well be in relegation zone again?
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 21 2020, 11:51 AM)
i have been seriously thinking about this "FACT".

So evaluating the conditions and making some comparisons to the teams with late season ending last season;
1. PSG - Having a poor start
2. Bayern - Having a banging start
3. Sevilla - Not started season yet.

Perhaps there is some truth to the issue. Perhaps we are too harsh on the team as they are barely warming up with Covid+Pogba. But look at Bayern, they can do it....So I'm still not completely satisfied.

We knew it was gonna be a problem, and yet there is nothing to be done? Accept that our first 3 matches gonna throw away? Thats -9 points to start the season....By then we are facing Chelsea, Tottenham, Everton, Arsenal....Who's gonna bet we may well be in relegation zone again?
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To be fair, I don't think we can compare outselves to Bayern.
They are Champions with strength in depth. We have problems in depth.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 21 2020, 12:55 PM)
To be fair, I don't think we can compare outselves to Bayern.
They are Champions with strength in depth. We have problems in depth.
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The starting 11 of bayern this season was similar as the one playing psg....depth...yes...but it took the bayern a few minutes to dismantle schalke and it took Crystal Palace a few minutes to dismantle MUFC.

I know its stupid to compare to European champions of course...but fitness and motivation cannot compare then...compare this
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We want them out, but are willing to do what it takes to make them go out? And if we are willing, are willing to see the collateral damages?


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We want them out, but are willing to do what it takes to make them go out? And if we are willing, are willing to see the collateral damages?
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Realistically we are stuck until they relinquish control.
Not much we can do. Look at Newcastle, they have been having this problem forever.
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Realistically we are stuck until they relinquish control.
Not much we can do. Look at Newcastle, they have been having this problem forever.
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Fans need to make the value of the club drop. Stop watching live matches in the stadium and on TV. Only watch the match replay. Stop buying merchandise. Unsubscribe from MUTV. Unfollow/unsubscribe from all the official club social media channel. All of this are easier said then done since not many fans are willing to do it.
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 21 2020, 02:10 PM)
Fans need to make the value of the club drop. Stop watching live matches in the stadium and on TV. Only watch the match replay. Stop buying merchandise. Unsubscribe from MUTV. Unfollow/unsubscribe from all the official club social media channel. All of this are easier said then done since not many fans are willing to do it.
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You will need to hate the Glazers more than you love the club to even go there. I just can't consider it.
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 21 2020, 02:10 PM)
Fans need to make the value of the club drop. Stop watching live matches in the stadium and on TV. Only watch the match replay. Stop buying merchandise. Unsubscribe from MUTV. Unfollow/unsubscribe from all the official club social media channel. All of this are easier said then done since not many fans are willing to do it.
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Um, I already done that. Not sure you guys are still actually paying towards anything MUFC, except for emotion. Anyway, just look at Liverpool, 20+ years. Even the owners changed man....
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 21 2020, 02:10 PM)
Fans need to make the value of the club drop. Stop watching live matches in the stadium and on TV. Only watch the match replay. Stop buying merchandise. Unsubscribe from MUTV. Unfollow/unsubscribe from all the official club social media channel. All of this are easier said then done since not many fans are willing to do it.
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cant really do that... still will buy 1 jersey and some maybank cards for them biggrin.gif

just hope for a richer owner to take over..
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They know it since they buy, these yahudi know most will always support thick and thin with $$$, so their money making scheme does not really actually depend on footballing success, so if you want this club to go the way of AC Milan then we can abandon...
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MUGG (Green Gold) is in the planning. We might have a Asian chapter this time. Problem is no spectators allowed in stadium, so they are looking for more avenues to promote the movement. There will be GG scarf and shirts
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Jesse lingard swap with delle ali. On tak on?
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Jesse lingard swap with delle ali. On tak on?
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QUOTE(bansai @ Sep 21 2020, 03:19 PM)
MUGG (Green Gold) is in the planning. We might have a Asian chapter this time. Problem is no spectators allowed in stadium, so they are looking for more avenues to promote the movement. There will be GG scarf and shirts
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nice piece of sharing..

however, i really don't think any movement will bear any fruit bro.. if got, there should be one already since the glazers had taken over for so long.. u see, our fans have become very fractious.. in the sense that everyone support the club in different ways.. without going too far, u can even notice in here that fans have very different opinions about what's good or what constitute success for the club.. hence, there's a lot of in-fighting.. an against movement started here or there can easily be banter off by another section of die-hard fans.. we haven't reach or successfully created a single-minded movement where a single voice can echo as a whole towards the glazers..

and because of that, this is where the glazers in the US will sit on their cozy couch, hands with their popcorn, and watch the drama and say "look at these fools fighting among themselves"

so i can only credit MUGG for their effort.. hope it'll turn into something bigger soon

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