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post Oct 1 2020, 08:14 PM

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And yes, I'm not a pogba fan as he abandoned united because he lacked patience or maybe other fans don't care? He is not bigger than the club. Ole treats him like he's Zidane, but he's closer to djemba2.
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post Oct 1 2020, 11:08 PM

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I really don't get it, seems like united are still confident of getting sancho... With player not submitting transfer and United bid not finalized, I don't know how they can close the deal.

Bvb still insisting no bids received while united are only sending feelers. Either kena con, or Bvb playing last minute wait game.
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post Oct 2 2020, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 2 2020, 07:49 PM)
Ole says what he has to say.
He was appointed to toe the club line. His predesessor made noises about the transfer management failings during a pre-season tour of the US...and he did not survive the season.

All in all, managers come and go. Players come and go.
The Glazers and the money milking management stays.
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You mean the people who owns the club stays? And they don't want to sell the club.


On another note, young, Sanchez and lukaku plays great under conte.
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:13 AM

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Club going backwards on the pitch.

Game by game, players becoming worse.

When players joined, they were one of the best in their position in their leagues, after ole, seems like become laughing stock. Ole out. Give him any player after one year under him will become shite
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 5 2020, 12:15 AM)
Whoever coach or manager we have also instantly players become shit lol.. look at di maria, sanchez, falcao and etc.. they were the best in their position among europe before come to man utd
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South Americans different la. Never suited for united. Other Europeans not too bad
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Oct 5 2020, 12:23 AM)
80M and captain and u blame coach ?

Great joke there.
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Easier to sack ole than to buy another 11 players for him to ruin.

Top defender in PL when joined. Top RB in the world. Best GK in the world. So called best atk mid in the world (now holding mid). All suddenly suck?
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:34 AM

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Mou is so obvouisly exploiting our wingback. Ole just chill.

Even if come back to draw, the manager has to go. Too amatuerish
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 5 2020, 12:36 AM)
See, Pogba and Mr. Captain still on the pitch.
It only prove that actually Ole want to loss more.
It is either he try to force Kayu to buy players he want.
Or he is simply clueless.
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Captain and pogba are the spine. Building team around them
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 5 2020, 12:46 AM)
this will be tough. are you going to bench 100M jogba and 80M maguire? both rubbish. jogba playing friendly ka, so easy let aurier go behind him.

ole need to be strong to dump them. but its seems not. got vdb but no start. sooner or later will kena sack. too stubborn. took so many matches to drop lindeloft.
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VDB needs to drop his levels before he can play. Now too good for the team.
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post Oct 5 2020, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Oct 5 2020, 01:26 AM)
after this lost to tottenham, man utd go on a winning run to become the premier league champion for 20/21
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post Oct 5 2020, 01:49 AM

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“The only way you can respond is by proving them wrong on the pitch, it’s quickly forgotten how many clean sheets we kept last season, I think we kept the most in Europe."
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post Oct 5 2020, 11:21 AM

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to those still defending the ole, yesterday was a school in tactics.

Team selection, mou is willing to cut players, regardless of being a star player or not.

Proactively exploiting weakness, seems like very obvious.

Defensive tactics on opponents, they pressed as a team, instead of absorbing more pressure on defenses.

Weak manager = weak players.

The tactics we've been playing last season and this is similar to how atletico plays, but they are stronger.

you coach a player into becoming a better player, not just buy a player to fit your tactics. If it is just buying players, we don't even need ole, woodward can just become the coach.

Ole wanted defender, got harry, AWB. Wanted AM got bruno. Wanted winger, got james. Don't forget, ole has input on transfers too. These were all not bad players when they arrived, With the exception of bruno whom still has heart, others are all flopping around. Look at AWB when he joined and AWB now, just replay his last 5 games played and his first 5, totally different, becoming worse.
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(maserati @ Oct 5 2020, 12:38 PM)
But ole did say he was very happy with the fitness levels of our players before the first game was played? Spurs played 3 matches in 7 days, don't see them slowing down one bit.

When you're paid the big bucks, you're supposed to be technically gifted and mentally strong. If you can't pick yourselves up after being shot down for being shit, then you can forget about ever achieving anything, especially during crunch times.

On a more realistic note, do you really need any further reinforcement to win against CP, Brighton, etc? Against the top 6, for sure we're way behind, as evident vs Spurs.

Why are questions not being asked about carrick and mckenna? They've survived multiple managers and not surprisingly, our players are still suffering from the same problems. Even all the newly bought players inherit these problems eventually.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 5 2020, 12:41 PM)
wohoooo. wake up so happy to see 7-2. thanks aston. never been so happy despite we kena trashing lol. not only got teman, but this shows pool doesn't have last season form to win until no tomorrow.
exactly. i actually don't know how to see tactic much. i know moyes is tactically inept with 70+ crosses and not scoring, lvg too with his backpass that bore us until sleep, and like 10 matches straight 0-0. if ole can beat pool city with his tactic, i think it's just fine for now. he is not great but sacking him can't solve anything. problem is you get any top coach in the world also can't turn things around and win title here consistently every season, with the board not blowing hot and cold in supporting. something wrong with the coaches though, dunno kieran, ole, carrick or who. awb, maguire, lindeloft all regressing this season.

but yeah, i don't like his first 11 selection. off form still play. wth. vdb looks good with cameo apperance and sit bench. yesterday after mcsauce and fred in, there's more energy.

i would like dembele to in, as long as no break wage structure and distrupt harmony. at least darkhorse. got player better than nothing haha.
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Moyes, mentality issue. LvG, too much basics in play. Mou, 3rd season syndrome, same everywhere he goes. Ole, clueless, stubborn, yet soft, if that makes sense. Players take after their managers. Maybe he needs more time to hone his skills and gain experience in germany, netherlands or somewhere else with an average club first. Giggs is going slow and showing progress.

If no statement by club to say that they stand by the manager, be prepared for the next 14 days.
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post Oct 5 2020, 03:03 PM

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Fans were most United under Moyes, everyone supported him during the start and all wanted him to go after that.

LvG, Fans were most entertained, both on (sometimes) and off the pitch.

Mou, Club was split

Ole, was all 3, majority wanted him permanent, then split and now most want him away. It's not about the toxic environment or whatnot, just for footballing reasons. Get another manager in and see what he can do with this lot since we're stuck with them. Easier to fire and hire 1 than 11.

Look at redcafe.
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post Oct 5 2020, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 5 2020, 03:44 PM)
under ole, there's barely a match i fell asleep. that includes yesterday match.

lvg is the worst cause for real, got few matches watch until fell asleep. or play phone with watching.

pep got the luxury to bash and bench and even sell players not performing despite buying at high price. look at the goalkeepers he bought as well. here?

i don't know ole is stubborn or pressure from board, sudah beli you jogba and maguire, you keep on bench? no more buying, okay. i miss the time we on winning streak before mco, playing attractive football. masuk jogba disrupt the flow.
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i wouldn't call the games we were playing as attractive, more like efficient. not many shots, but bury chances.

Now PL 3 games, 11 games goals shipped.

You can't blame fatigue, other teams are in the same situation. Prep work, fitness? Coaches and manager handles those. We are lucky to even have 3 points.
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post Oct 5 2020, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(jas029 @ Oct 5 2020, 10:19 PM)
108mil doesn't mean anything in today's world already ler.. probably it's the price tag for the best quality 5 years ago.. relating it to the transfer fee of neymar, 108mil is quite fair for a young talent who's comparable to the trajectory of neymar.. the transfer market has gone crazy with valuation and money present day

actually, maguire was never a 80mil.. the person who negotiated the deal has been taken for a ride.. if u're selling chilwell for 60mil, how did u manage to sell maguire for 80mil right? so we're having a cb who's at best a 40-50mil with a 80mil price tag

and i really think it's unfair in the sense that if the manager gave the employee the 'expensive' tools to play with, which he did made use by improving to become the 3rd best.. what is the reason not to give now? that is almost equivalent to a sudden and a total lack of trust towards the employee and he is as good as gone
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With 108m you can buy over 3 premier league teams, half the teams in la liga and contrary to what woodward wants shareholders to belief, we are not the richest club. Maybe not even top 10 in Europe anymore. Brand value is another thing.

108m is alot of money to anyone. Maybe to you it's peanuts, but for a future, potential world beater it's alot of money and Bvb wants it upfront.
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post Oct 5 2020, 11:33 PM

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United are still confident of securing sancho, but not in this window............... Hence they will try for temporary solutions in the meantime. Loans or cheaper permanent deals in order to secure more funding for sancho.
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post Oct 6 2020, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(jas029 @ Oct 5 2020, 11:48 PM)
it's not throwing money.. if so, can i say man city or psg are throwing money as well?

definitely nothing wrong with owners trying to get the best return they could.. but this is a delicate fine line isn't it.. between ambition and milking the club.. so even if u're milking the club, at least get a better transfer negotiator?
yea not the richest club.. but we are the club that made the most money compare to the other premier league teams.. yet they are able to get better value in deals and spent more money in the transfer than us.. something to figure
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You do know that psg and city are owned by countries right? One issue we have is united on the stock exchange. I don't like the glazers one bit, positives is that thay don't touch on football, negatives are they didn't appoint real football people to take care of the club. United had a chance to be fans owned, but not many took up the chance and then glazers didn't want to sell.
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post Oct 6 2020, 09:47 AM

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Pellistri and traore not first team materials yet. Tellers unsure, never watched him before.

Hope bruno can supply to cavani. Rashford can relax abit while martial can sort his head.
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post Oct 6 2020, 09:50 AM

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Cavani, rashford, Greenwood, VDB, bruno, matic, telles, AWB, Harry, lindelof, ddg

Hope to see more pressing

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