when i was buying my 400D kit last month, the 17-85 IS USM package was rm39xx... not sure the current price tho...

nway, i had d same dilemma back then... but my goal was to benefit s much s possible during the promotion, so i chose the 18-55 kit package wif helluva accessories... owh, n 85mm juz not tele enuff for me... u myt find it differently tho... if u hate to carry excessive burden, then i dun see y not getting the IS USM lens..