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 Malaysia Shut Down 3G Network By The End of TBA, Long life 2G

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post Sep 25 2020, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Sep 25 2020, 10:06 AM)
Just to correct you, in real life.

3.5G / HSPA+ barely can hit 21Mbps . If you did , you're lucky. No one is using the tower.
4G , never will hit 1GBps. Fastest I've done also is 100+ Mbps standing next to the tower on a Sunday morning.

So yes, you are correct, who the heck needs ultra high speed?

Aside to JLA,
If they (MCMC) expect to achieve 100% coverage 4G they better walk the talk and ensure telcos meed standards.
Including covering all the hutans and hidden villages .

Take a look at IMDA Singapore report here:
Quality of Service Performance Results for Jan – Mar 2019

Singapore can achieve 100% because their IMDA consistently test the coverage themselves.
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Cannot compare Singapore with Malaysia because Singapore has no Taman Negara that covers hundreds of acres of land with many parts having zero population = no point putting up a 4G cell tower there. Anyway, to cover any remote/rural areas in Malaysia, there is Satellite Internet - Maxis ConnectMe service, where ONE RM199 monthly subscription for 30Mbps can be shared by about 10 households (= RM20 monthly for 3Mbps each) within a 1km range by setting up a Wifi CPE transceiver device, .......

https://shopee.com.my/Sis%E2%99%A5COMFAST-3...AiABEgLihPD_BwE - Sis♥COMFAST 300Mbps Outdoor CPE 2.4GHz Monitoring CPE IP65 POE SSID Wireless Bridge for Security and Monitoring - RM76
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PS - TM VSAT is another Satellite ISP but only for enterprises and organizations, eg eco-tourism hotels/homestays, offshore oil rigs, etc, ie not for consumers.
Eg ....... https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020...ternet-coverage - 2020/09/22/sararwak-approves-rm50mil-vsat-project-to-improve-internet-coverage
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post Sep 25 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 25 2020, 12:21 PM)
Since VPNs traffic is encrypted (per advertisement), they couldnt do DPI of a encrypted data. Or else, use SOCKS5 for safety
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Afaik, such encryption only prevents man-in-the-middle/MITM attacks that could inspect users' transmitted passwords and other oersonal data. Such encyption does not prevent the celco using DPI software from inspecting the subscribers' web-traffic or the websites they have visited, eg by the celco staff visiting the same illegal website the subscribers had visited earlier.

QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 25 2020, 12:23 PM)
Or something DNS over HTTPS, for better shielding.
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The celcos likely can also do browser-fingerprinting of subscribers with their specialized software ....... https://panopticlick.eff.org/ - Is your browser safe against tracking?
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post Dec 18 2020, 09:16 PM

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SKMM Memperlihatkan Butiran Lanjut Mengenai Penamatan Perkhidmatan 3G Negara
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https://amanz.my/2020265186/
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post Dec 18 2020, 10:09 PM

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Got roadmap ald. Hope they really improve 2G cuz someplace 2g cannot pakai also if 3g also dun have then dummy phone will still die. Say got 2g but actually none haha. Some telco phase out 2G 1st but now goverment tell them to phase out 3g. Coming year would be bumpy for user without VOLTE support

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post Dec 19 2020, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(JLA @ Dec 18 2020, 09:16 PM)
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SKMM Memperlihatkan Butiran Lanjut Mengenai Penamatan Perkhidmatan 3G Negara
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https://amanz.my/2020265186/
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Speaking of VoLTE, wonder when are they gonna force MVNO's to speed up in adopting VoLTE, now that all main telcos already support VoLTE?

It bugs me when MVNO's especially Yoodo are trying to ignore this and giving bunch of excuses like "implementing VoLTE will cause them to increase their pricing which they don't want to" (which ironically they already did anyways) even after many customers have already asked about this for so long in their community group...

Not being able to use VoLTE is really a pain in the arse sometimes.
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post Dec 19 2020, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Dec 19 2020, 03:11 AM)
Speaking of VoLTE, wonder when are they gonna force MVNO's to speed up in adopting VoLTE, now that all main telcos already support VoLTE?

It bugs me when MVNO's especially Yoodo are trying to ignore this and giving bunch of excuses like "implementing VoLTE will cause them to increase their pricing which they don't want to" (which ironically they already did anyways) even after many customers have already asked about this for so long in their community group...

Not being able to use VoLTE is really a pain in the arse sometimes.
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Celcom will upgrade an additional 3,600 network sites with more capacity to address video buffering issues and deliver better voice quality, including Voice-over-LTE (VoLTE) for consumers, targeted to be completed by August 2021.
https://www.malaysianwireless.com/2020/12/c...-upgrades-2021/

What are the certified VoLTE smartphones that can enjoy VoLTE for now?
All iPhone 6s Plus and above (latest iOS 14.2)
Selected VoLTE certified Android devices (latest Android 11.0 software)

What should I do to activate VoLTE?
VoLTE will be activated automatically when your smartphone is connected to the Celcom 4G LTE network. Make sure that your iPhone has the minimum of iOS 13.3 installed as well as the latest mobile network setting, and the VoLTE option is turned on.

How to turn on VoLTE in Android Devices
If the Device is VoLTE certified, it will turn on automatically
Please refer to the device manufacturer for further information
https://www.celcom.com.my/support/faq/gener...es-celcom-volte
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post Dec 22 2020, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(JLA @ Dec 19 2020, 08:11 AM)
Celcom will upgrade an additional 3,600 network sites with more capacity to address video buffering issues and deliver better voice quality, including Voice-over-LTE (VoLTE) for consumers, targeted to be completed by August 2021.
https://www.malaysianwireless.com/2020/12/c...-upgrades-2021/
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The irony of this VoLTE is not all sets get supported. Like for example my Galaxy A5 has VoLTE but not supported by Celcom. Why cant VoLTE be standardized to be supported by all Android versions regardless telco and handphone model.

BTW mine is Android 9.0. Not too old but not the latest either. But it still works.
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post Jan 16 2021, 10:38 PM

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Also worth noting that accessing USSD menus (e.g. *118#, *128#) won't work in full 4G LTE mode.

Whenever you dial any USSD menus, your phone will fallback from 4G to 3G network (or 2G) to access to the USSD menus.
Until you exit the USSD menu, then only it would go back up to 4G.

For those who force 4G LTE mode on their phones, you will realise that USSD menus will not work.
For example, it will shows this message "Connection problem or invalid MMI code" immediately once you "Call" the USSD menus like *118# or *128#.

This could mean that after 3G network is shut down in Malaysia:
You try to access to USSD menu = The phone fallback to 2G = You'll temporary lose 4G mobile data connection until you exit the USSD menu

Could it be the reason why telco like Yes 4G doesn't have USSD menus? hmm.gif
Unless if they make USSD over LTE network possible, otherwise it could mean that USSD menu may become a thing of the past?
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post Jan 18 2021, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jan 16 2021, 10:38 PM)
Also worth noting that accessing USSD menus (e.g. *118#, *128#) won't work in full 4G LTE mode.

Whenever you dial any USSD menus, your phone will fallback from 4G to 3G network (or 2G) to access to the USSD menus.
Until you exit the USSD menu, then only it would go back up to 4G.

For those who force 4G LTE mode on their phones, you will realise that USSD menus will not work.
For example, it will shows this message "Connection problem or invalid MMI code" immediately once you "Call" the USSD menus like *118# or *128#.

This could mean that after 3G network is shut down in Malaysia:
You try to access to USSD menu = The phone fallback to 2G = You'll temporary lose 4G mobile data connection until you exit the USSD menu

Could it be the reason why telco like Yes 4G doesn't have USSD menus?  hmm.gif
Unless if they make USSD over LTE network possible, otherwise it could mean that USSD menu may become a thing of the past?
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Really doubt they will bother to implement this, too much work for barely any gain(esp financially). Most users won’t notice it...
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post Jan 18 2021, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jan 16 2021, 10:38 PM)
Could it be the reason why telco like Yes 4G doesn't have USSD menus?  hmm.gif
Unless if they make USSD over LTE network possible, otherwise it could mean that USSD menu may become a thing of the past?
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In Malaysia I know Yes 4G, Unifi Mobile and Yoodo have no USSD menu. They drive the users towards the app for managing stuff.
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QUOTE(jack2001 @ Jan 18 2021, 03:30 PM)
Really doubt they will bother to implement this, too much work for barely any gain(esp financially). Most users won’t notice it...
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QUOTE(tympg @ Jan 18 2021, 04:03 PM)
In Malaysia I know Yes 4G, Unifi Mobile and Yoodo have no USSD menu.  They drive the users towards the app for managing stuff.
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Hmm but still, no doubt that USSD menus does provide the convenience and simplicity to some extent where users can easily access to account information, topup, buy add ons, and so on.

Just dial the USSD menu (*128#) and just enter/send the number according to the designated number of the option.
In comparison over install whatever app, login to whatever portal and so on.

Unless, they replace it with SMS-based system, or WhatsApp bot kind-of-system? hmm.gif
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post Jan 18 2021, 06:31 PM

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And also USSD menus allows me to have quick shortcuts (contacts with number pointed to a USSD code) to certain stuff that I need, for something like redeem 1gb free internet, buy internet packs, etc.

And it's able to bring up offers that sometimes get hidden in the app or whatever...

So yeah, without USSD with LTE these things would be hard to do again. (USSD in LTE does exists though, it's called USSD over IMS, it's sorta related to SIP and VoLTE though, go search yourself for clarification)
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Celcom on course to phase out 3G network

Published on 01 Mar 2021

KUALA LUMPUR – Celcom Axiata Bhd is on track to shut down its 3G network by end of this year.

Chief executive officer Idham Nawawi said following this, Celcom was reaching out to as many customers as possible to encourage the 3G-only users to migrate to 4G compatible smartphones offered under its packages.

Celcom started the initiative to sunset the network 18 months ago.

“We had 2.7 million 3G users with 3G-capable devices two years ago and at the beginning of 2020, we had 1.7 million. At end-2020, half of that or around 800,000 were on the 3G network.

“It’s still ongoing for us. There are also machine-to-machine devices which are the smart meters operated by Tenaga Nasional Bhd, Pengurusan Air Selangor and a few other corporations,” he told reporters during a virtual media briefing on Celcom’s fourth quarter 2020 results today.

Idham said a number of the 3G-only users were located in the northern and eastern regions of the country.
https://www.thevibes.com/articles/business/...-out-3g-network
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Blue Guinea Pig will prove whether the hypothesis is right or wrong by end of 2021...

Best of luck to all Blue citizens...

#Not_enuff_4G_towers

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"machine-to-machine devices which are the smart meters operated by Tenaga Nasional Bhd, Pengurusan Air Selangor and a few other corporations"

hmm...
so maybe yes. maybe not then....
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I guess it’s a good move. We can’t stay at 3G forever.
Plus the spectrum used on 3G can be reused for the initial rollout of 5G.
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let's just see by end of year and we are alrd in first quarter isn't?
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3G is mostly unusable already, at least at my area somewhere in Kuching.
Whenever someone say Maxis line like shit or Digi line like shit I just tell them to go force LTE...

Forcing LTE is the only way of getting proper internet speed, unfortunately as many will realize their phone don't even have an option to force LTE especially on certain brands...
Luckily recently I found out an app [SetEdit] (setting database editor) able to modify the value without needs of rooting the device,
if interested can go Google it, but obviously do it at own discretion, desperate time call for desperate choice sometime... and 3G really is like shit at some places.

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Mar 3 2021, 12:18 AM)
3G is mostly unusable already, at least at my area somewhere in Kuching.
Whenever someone say Maxis line like shit or Digi line like shit I just tell them to go force LTE...

Forcing LTE is the only way of getting proper internet speed, unfortunately as  many will realize their phone don't even have an option to force LTE especially on certain brands...
Luckily recently I found out an app [SetEdit] (setting database editor) able to modify the value without needs of rooting the device,
if interested can go Google it, but obviously do it at own discretion, desperate time call for desperate choice sometime... and 3G really is like shit at some places.
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If you force LTE, you might not be able to make and receive calls anymore, especially if your phone doesn't support VoLTE...?
Of course, that is subjective to many technical factors, from various telco to various phone models...
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Mar 3 2021, 12:54 AM)
If you force LTE, you might not be able to make and receive calls anymore, especially if your phone doesn't support VoLTE...?
Of course, that is subjective to many technical factors, from various telco to various phone models...
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Depending on your phone model you might struggle, but I was using a S8 and was able to force 4G only for almost a year without any issue. Calls routed through VoLTE and didn't have to deal with 3G at all, very reliable.

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