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post Aug 26 2020, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(erald06 @ Aug 26 2020, 06:06 AM)
This is the feedback from a person who left after a short period of time;
1. You need to subscribe their learning books and CDs. It will come in the mail around once a month or sometimes your up line will ask you to buy during events.
2. You need to go to their big seminars. This may happen around once or twice a month.
3.You need to go to their nightly seminar. Once a week.
4.You need to go to meetings with your up line around once a week.
5.You need to pull in people and they need to pull in people so both of your lines can work.

1 to 3 costs you money. 1 & 2 will cost you a couple of hundreds, especially no.2.

Their idea kinda works, but if you don't believe in their system and you don't have people who shares the same beliefs like you, it is pretty much pointless. If you can't bring people in, you can't improve and you will be stuck there. To me, I think this works if you just finish high school or around college where all your minds are still fresh and think this is a side business, so you maybe able to pull people in because they are still partially gullible. But for working adults,they know better because it is MLM.
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So far #1 has not happened yet, but #2 to #5 yes

Their weekly seminar which held at night has an entrance fee of RM50 (can enter 10 times) like membership card or RM8 per entry.

I only attended once and it is all motivational talk to motivate u to get sales which i think kinda pointless.


QUOTE(danielmckey @ Aug 26 2020, 10:02 AM)
They has been repeating the same word for many decades already. All they said is scripted and repeated. They even show you the best figure and best product you can get but some not even worth to buy and not even being useful either. You can join their club if you like but you need to work hard 1000x to get the benefit. Your upline will no need to work hard as you after their lines stable. Good luck.
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Ya i do agree, everyone have a common phrase
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post Aug 26 2020, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Aug 26 2020, 01:00 PM)
Kesian you already enter = you accepted brainwashing and now think how to shove it into other pipul's mind and hand.

If insap drop it and spend no more time + money inside it. Insap for being bodo and realize no time to do such thing.
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I enter but for almost 4 months but i never recruit anyone nor buy their products. I enter because i give face to my friend (upline)

But showing effort is another thing

After hearing the opinions from here, i would say i wont do it. If it involves hardsell, im too lazy to bother with it.

QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Aug 26 2020, 01:09 PM)
With strangers you need to have a thick skin/ face and be the kind of person who can take a thousand no, before getting 1 yes.

"Giving people a chance" --> typical MLM tactic of putting perspective into something positive. It's both a yes and no, depending on what you believe.

If you enter ady, might as well go Full Force for 3-6 months and see what you can achieve. Doing it half heartedly you won't see any result. However, if you went 100% with it, you can then look back and assess whether this is good to go for long term (to continue) or it was an enriching experience but not for you.

Lastly, for the one who said she felt her degree is useless, then ask her to say it out loud to her parents who paid for her education.
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Whenever I said something negative, my upline definitely convert it to positive and ask me to think it in a positive manner

But i think i wont give it a try after realising the harsh fact over here
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post Aug 26 2020, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Zoo Howl @ Aug 26 2020, 01:22 PM)
I enter but for almost 4 months but i never recruit anyone nor buy their products. I enter because i give face to my friend (upline)

But showing effort is another thing

After hearing the opinions from here, i would say i wont do it. If it involves hardsell, im too lazy to bother with it.
Whenever I said something negative, my upline definitely convert it to positive and ask me to think it in a positive manner

But i think i wont give it a try after realising the harsh fact over here
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Now next step dump your upline friend. If really friend buy back all my stock. Roll back, and say this: I need the money. Help me buy it all back I think this isn't suitable for me

Then you see your friend true colour as well. If bought everything, good for you, you still have a friend and stay away from this Amway. Smart man from now on.

This post has been edited by fu'house: Aug 26 2020, 01:25 PM
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post Aug 26 2020, 01:37 PM

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keyword is network
the more rich dato datin tan sri puan sri tun u know
the more likelihood u will earn from amway
if u peasant just dun join
u will end up losing more
speaking from xperience
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post Aug 26 2020, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Zoo Howl @ Aug 26 2020, 01:22 PM)

After hearing the opinions from here, i would say i wont do it. If it involves hardsell, im too lazy to bother with it.

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It means you have a conscience, not that you're too lazy.

Hard sells really is direct in ppls faces and getting them to commit without time to think. And you're preying on ppls insecurities or feelings to make the sale most of the time.

Hard selling trains you to be a predator, it might arguably be considered an important skill set by some but not for me. If you are leaving a job that involves this mode of selling more often than not then i think you made the right choice. All the best in your future career choices
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post Aug 26 2020, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Aug 26 2020, 01:25 PM)
Now next step dump your upline friend. If really friend buy back all my stock. Roll back, and say this: I need the money. Help me buy it all back I think this isn't suitable for me

Then you see your friend true colour as well. If bought everything, good for you, you still have a friend and stay away from this Amway. Smart man from now on.
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I didnt purchase anything to stock up my inventory. I only paid for the membership or registration fee of RM90

The rest weekly meeting with upline in a cafe is all paid by my friend (upline)

Maybe wasted is just my time and my petrol of maybe RM20 after meeting my upline for 6-7 times?? Haha

QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 26 2020, 01:43 PM)
It means you have a conscience, not that you're too lazy.

Hard sells really is direct in ppls faces and getting them to commit without time to think. And you're preying on ppls insecurities or feelings to make the sale most of the time.

Hard selling trains you to be a predator, it might arguably be considered an important skill set by some but not for me. If you are leaving a job that involves this mode of selling more often than not then i think you made the right choice. All the best in your future career choices
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Yes my upline has mentioned during MCO, sales for them is the peak.

1)People want to purchase vitamin supplement, cleansing agent to prevent spread of covid
2) people who lost their job and looking for opportunity
3) people who suddenly wake up to reality after realising “what if a second wave of MCO” and they joined Amway

From here take they take the chance to promote Amway

Thanks for your wish

This post has been edited by Zoo Howl: Aug 26 2020, 01:56 PM
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post Aug 26 2020, 02:07 PM

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Wow.....Amway still exist?
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post Aug 26 2020, 06:46 PM
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Open any road side stall.is better than mlm cos what mlm doesnt tell you that majority of the mlm people dont earn any money, at least road side stall can earn money immediately....mlm is pure waste of money and time...that's why mlm targets the gullible early 20s
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post Aug 26 2020, 07:13 PM

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Join and see yourself lo. If doesn't suit you or didn't use any of the product then leave to get back the membership fee or become inactive if many people pester you.
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post Aug 26 2020, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(HolyValkyrie @ Aug 26 2020, 07:13 PM)
Join and see yourself lo. If doesn't suit you or didn't use any of the product then leave to get back the membership fee or become inactive if many people pester you.
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https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3079019

Financial Year End 31 Dec 2020
Quarter 2 Qtr
Quarterly report for the financial period ended 30 Jun 2020
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profit only less a bit...
malaysia t20 and m40 memang powerful...


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post Aug 26 2020, 11:30 PM
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35 years ago, neighbours approached my parents to join. They were emerald or ruby level. Think they themselves stopped 1-2 years after that as they couldn't sustain.

20 years ago, my friend asked me to join. He stopped as well after 1-2 years.

Not saying it's impossible, but it's hard work sustaining the network and as a MLM,a lots of the members are going to lose money and you may lose your friends.

Despite all the bad things in MLM, some good things i noticed is that it does build self-confidence and presentation ability. Also, you'll develop a thicker skin. All of which are good things in the working world.
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post Aug 26 2020, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(Zoo Howl @ Aug 26 2020, 02:31 AM)
..y.
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So is it really worth to join and commit into this?
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only yourself can answer, for those who had prior experience in business and client base, they can push the sales easier as client already know them. if you just start out fresh and doesnt have lot of available contact, it will be much harder

it is similar thing like garbage, most of the people dont see any value in garbage, but to some people can turn garbage into gold..
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post Aug 26 2020, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(notadupe999 @ Aug 26 2020, 11:30 PM)
35 years ago, neighbours approached my parents to join. They were emerald or ruby level. Think they themselves stopped 1-2 years after that as they couldn't sustain.

20 years ago, my friend asked me to join. He stopped as well after 1-2 years.

Not saying it's impossible, but it's hard work sustaining the network and as a MLM,a lots of the members are going to lose money and you may lose your friends.

Despite all the bad things in MLM,  some good things i noticed is that it does build self-confidence and presentation ability. Also, you'll develop a thicker skin. All of which are good things in the working world.
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What happen? Why after 1-2 years they couldnt sustain even though they are at emerald/ruby level? I thought at that level u can chill since downline will help u to generate passive income?


QUOTE(kuladruw @ Aug 26 2020, 11:46 PM)
only yourself can answer, for those who had prior experience in business and client base, they can push the sales easier as client already know them. if you just start out fresh and doesnt have lot of available contact, it will be much harder

it is similar thing like garbage, most of the people dont see any value in garbage, but to some people can turn garbage into gold..
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Tbh, i am really fresh and dont have much contacts. Ppl around me and my friends are skeptical to MLM even though the business is lucrative. They also just started working but they (my friend) believe in working hard can earn a lot and dont believe in MLM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 26 2020, 01:43 PM)
It means you have a conscience, not that you're too lazy.

Hard sells really is direct in ppls faces and getting them to commit without time to think. And you're preying on ppls insecurities or feelings to make the sale most of the time.

Hard selling trains you to be a predator, it might arguably be considered an important skill set by some but not for me. If you are leaving a job that involves this mode of selling more often than not then i think you made the right choice. All the best in your future career choices
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+1, spot on

There are lots more side hustle that wont kill off any remaining friendships/relationship that you currently have.

Even driving grab is more realistic and effort-based reward compared to MLM, you must have some super-strong determination to thrive in MLM, else you are likely the 99% sheep feeding the entire pyramid

It hurts me to see peers that I know personally join with the thought of getting rich, because really, it requires more than just effort
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post Aug 27 2020, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 26 2020, 10:22 PM)
https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3079019

Financial Year End 31 Dec 2020
Quarter 2 Qtr
Quarterly report for the financial period ended 30 Jun 2020
The figures have not been audited
profit only less a bit...
malaysia t20 and m40 memang powerful...
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I'm a member myself so I know quite a bit about the company.

Just to answer TS question as neutral as possible.

I'm pretty sure TS already heard answers like these (eg. condemn, glorify or legit but no xxx) so why not go and judge himself since he's already at the doorstep.

Most important thing is there's no shortcut to become wealthy, if there's one it's either gamble or scam.

If you can't differentiate between pyramid scheme and MLM better avoid these far far away.

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post Aug 27 2020, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(HolyValkyrie @ Aug 27 2020, 12:28 AM)
I'm a member myself so I know quite a bit about the company.

Just to answer TS question as neutral as possible.

I'm pretty sure TS already heard answers like these (eg. condemn, glorify or legit but no xxx)  so why not go and judge himself since he's already at the doorstep.

Most important thing is there's no shortcut to become wealthy, if there's one it's either gamble or scam.

If you can't differentiate between pyramid scheme and MLM better avoid these far far away.
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Mind sharing how many did u recruited?

How much are u earning every month from Amway?
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old ppl talk story. most boring i just exit no give face
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post Aug 27 2020, 12:59 AM

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turn negative idea to positive is useful.
u must learn up from ur sifu. maybe u join a short period but only involve with this master
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post Aug 27 2020, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 27 2020, 12:59 AM)
turn negative idea to positive is useful.
u must learn up from ur sifu. maybe u join a short period but only involve with this master
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Haiz boring la, weekly ask me go to the meeting for 2 hours

I hate listen to ppl and their story especially those boring speech. Will make me fall asleep

I will push all this meeting already, not interested anymore
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decide carefully oh. after quit u cant join back within 9 month lol

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