locked to make a call out, juz like what normal sim should do.

you might need this
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/428044

Hi,

I got a few stock to let go.

iPhone 8GB NEW - FULLY UNLOCKED - RM2600
iPhone 4GB NEW - FULLY UNLOCKED - RM2200

* Only Maxis cannot incoming call

-UNLOCK YOUR IPHONE SERVICE AT RM150 only!!!

Call / SMS Danny 019 2888150 / 014 2296986

waa rm150....
there's a tutorial online can follow, FOC

Another rip-off

bleh, anySIM is cheaper than that, okay pricing though, can fight with LG prada

Though the guides are free but to get it right is not. It took me like 3 full days to get everything in order. I admit I am slow. Those who who has zero or very little knowledge about computers will take probably them a week to unlock the phone using the guide. Or maybe never. So, it is not really free. Effort has to be spent. In addition to this, you are risking ur precious iphone to turn into an expensive paper weight.

I am not supporting the seller or suggesting RM150 is a fair price for his service.

I doubt it.

Some of the guides are so detailed, it is basically holding your hands on the step-by-step procedure. YOU DONT NEED to be a 1337 hacker to do this, if you can follow instructions, you can do this. They are practically a no-brainer, noob-friendly. The only way you can make this any easier on yourself is if they come up with a single-click unlock applications.

I can get an iphone 8GB for less then RM1.5K

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A HACKER to unlock iphone. I am not a hacker myself. I am just a hobbyist. I agreed with you that the guide is simple to follow along with the tools they provided but not to the extend of holding hands.

It is a good thing to have more than 1 guide to refer to. However, sometimes they confused you. The guides use different ways to achieve the same objective. It is a whole different perspective for a 1st timer (zero experience in unlocking iphone) like myself. Take for example, one guide says install OpenSSH thru AppTap to enable SSH while the other guide uses dropbear to enable SSH. For uninitiated, the immediate question would be what the hell is SSH anyway?

After you have gone thru the process and successfully unlocked the iphone, you understood the differences and became more familiar with the processes involved. Subsequently, the guide became alot clearer and it is not as hard as it seems.

Probably, for a more experience hacker like yourself, you can understand the guide easily and it felt like a hands holding guide.

Mate, care to PM me on this? Sounds interesting.... Thanks


About the online tutorials, it's true indeed. They are basically spoonfeeding you till the tiniest of details, so aslong as you're looking at the better written tutorials. But there's always the paranoia factor where people'd rather let the sellers of their phones do the unlocking, under the sheer eccentric fear of corrupting the phone itself. Weird though.....

Nope, didnt claim claim for the life of me to be any semblance of a hacker. In fact, im like you, i have no prior experience whatsoever unlocking a phone. What i did was to understand the WHY they did it, instead of "okay, you do this first, do this next, etc etc...". There are options out there if you care to look. For example, that OpenSSH step you mentioned. There is an easier way using a program called Putty for WinXP for feeding command lines into the iPhone after you have located its IP address. The guide at http://iphone.unlock.no basically have this as one of its steps. All if you care to look more thoroughly and weigh all your options. In fact, im more inclined to trust and feel more comfortable with the guide at that link i provided than the myriad other options that wants you to dropbear or drop Installer.app via AppTapp, since you are basically relying on the already unstable iPhone you have just jailbroken to do the SSHing for you INSIDE the iPhone, instead of a stable platform like WinXP OUTSIDE the volatile internals of the iPhone.

So, nope, im not a hacker nor am i an unlocker. I merely ask the right questions, WHY, instead of just following orders, coz if you just follow orders and things go wrong, who do you go to then? With better understanding of what's going on, you can do some troubleshooting and deduction by yourself and retrace your steps to see where you went wrong instead of what most of the others who did the step-by-step thing and things went horribly wrong with them, did what they are inclined to do: whine and bawl their eyes out. You should have been there the first two weeks when the free unlocking applications were made available. Endless threads of people who had no idea what they are doing, came bawling, crying and bawling their eyes out, whining that they have bricked their iPhones for doing the unlocking by themselves with no clue whatsoever what they are doing, other than blindly trusting a guide from someone they have never known or met. Like i said before, if im that evil, i could just write one of these unlocking guides of my own, but with malicious intent of bricking every single iPhones that uses my guide.

Im curious, do you have any restraints or doubts in your mind that these guides may hold such malicious intents? If you answer "yes", then what is stopping you from researching further for other guides and authenticate the validity of these guides? If you answer that you did had a look at other options, ........well, i guess you have never came across the guide i have linked above, that provides a pretty much "iPhones Unlocking for Dummies" method that requires nothing but for you to simply FOLLOW them. I have done the HARD PART for you, that is authenticating that this method works , all that is left is literally to follow the hands-holding guide. Nothing wrong with it, but to me, it pays if you go the extra mile to make sure you dont end up with an expensive brick. Dont you think so?


Paranoia i can understand, but what guarantees can you get if you let others do it for a fee? Let say the guy says he can do it for RM150. If he somehow bricked it, can he "guarantee" you a fresh virgin iPhone, should he bricked it in the process of unlocking? If such service exists, i'll be the first in line, nobody likes to be responsible for such a burden, including me! Which is why, im not inclined to even offer such services with a fee, because i simply cannot guarantee that i will not brick your iPhone in the process.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Oct 6 2007, 02:07 AM

The guide, http://iphone.unlock.no, you provided is as good as any other guides that I referred to. Furthermore, I can't use that guide because I am not using Windows. Probably, you will say "why don't you get Windows and get on with it". Well, I will buy a copy someday. Mean while, I have to refer to other guide to unlock my iphone.

If you have read the guides carefully, installing OpenSSH thru AppTapp or using dropbear ssh is to install a SSH server into iphone so that you can ssh into iphone and not vice versa. I could not think of any sane person would use the iphone virtual keyboard as the input device to ssh into another iphone. Btw, putty.exe only works for windows while unixes uses openssh.

From the paragraphs you have written, it is NOT as easy as "just follow the hand holding guides". First, you have to ascertain the integrity of the guide. Second, if it doesn't work the 1st time, you have to retrace your steps and see where went wrong. That is precisely why it took me couple of days to unlock the 1st phone. I had to make sure the guide make sense and it doesn't trick me into "bricking" my phone.

This post has been edited by sshark: Oct 6 2007, 02:47 AM

The unlocking scene went in parallel with each other, be it Mac OS X or the WinXP. When there is an app for the WinXP, the same alternative to do the very same thing is also available in Mac OS X. I simply dont bother looking at the Mac OS X solutions or guide, simply because i dont operate it on my computer. I am willing to bet however, that the very same guide that has that very same "hand holding quality" exists for the Mac OS X as well. iBrickr in WinXP, iFuntastic/INdependence in Mac OS X....... Putty in WinXP, iPhuC in Mac OS X, i believe? In fact, i believe those who had WinXP as their unlocking platform took more risks in doing such unlocks, than the Mac OS X folks, since we are dabbling within two OSes here, unlike the Mac folks.

Again, your assumption was to think it was "easy and hand-holding" for me, and im here to explain that it is not. However, it is not as complicated as going brute-force on a 128-bit encryption, as the community does provide guides for both sides of the OSes. In fact, the very first attempts, were born out of the works of Erica Sadun who dabbles exclusively in Mac OS X. Which im sure made it a much more irrefutable notion that guides were made available for those with Mac OS X first than the WinXP.

Sometimes, it's a matter of your own personal comfort zone. I went in , almost headfirst when the first unlock methods for WinXP was available. A risk im willing to take, but i cant say the same for others. As for your comment on needing 3 days to get the unlock done, was it for gathering the necessary applications to do the unlock or was it for documentations? If your unlock was done recently, then i guess you were looking at the wrong places. I can simply type in "Unlock iPhone Mac OS X" in Google, and look what is the first search return came up? Once you get that out of the way, it's a matter of getting comfortable with your conscience, and accepting the risks. Maybe you took 3 days contemplating that instead of gathering intel and apps? Not that there's anything wrong with that.......

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Oct 6 2007, 03:22 AM

Those 3 days were spent practically to gather information and tools. Part of it were spent to to filter information I got from the internet as there are many of them and many were outdated. Lastly, I verified the steps and tools before I begin. It looks as though OS X has the slight advantage over windows, may be it does, but it is not all that rosy. It is just a platform and there are so many unknown when I 1st stepped out.

I had only 1 option then, the phone must be unlocked. Btw, what unlocking the phone had to do with my conscience? The moment you have the phone and you are not going to hold hands with AT&T, you are already "come in terms" with your conscience.

iphuc is a command line jail breaker. I presume it functions pretty much the same as independence. I had never used iphuc before. In the Unix world, we, typically, use openSSH to handle SSH. It does what puTTY does in windows and more. puTTY does not provide SSH server functionality.

Looking in retro, the time spent was worthwhile. I can lock the iphone to a specific SIM card other than AT&T. No real value here, it just shows you know the iphone better

Hmm, how does where to buy become a how to hack?

anyway, just to update some here the guys from iPhones Unlocked (and iphonesimfree) has allocated 10 units of refurbished Apple iPhones to be ordered from my blog.

if you're interested do drop by clicking the banner below and let me know. he informed me the stocks coming in possibly Thursday / Friday.

Im glad we are on the same page here. Im even more pleased to see that im conversing with a fellow user who certainly knows what he's doing with his devices. Saves the time explaining and responding to the endless questions you see in the iPhone thread which can easily be answered by a little Googling.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Oct 7 2007, 11:22 PM

stringfellow, sshark. Congratulations for having the most civilized discussion on LYN ever It was fun just following it

EDITED.

One more sales post from you in Apple Bytes Forum and you'll earn a 10% Warning.

This post has been edited by UnUsUaL: Oct 9 2007, 03:50 PM

It is good to have a elaborated discussions with the intention to show off different perspectives of an issue to the readers.

stringfellow brought up a very good point. you must consciously know what you are doing instead of just relying on what the article has provided. First, you are not tricked into doing things that may harm you and secondly, you will benefit more from the exercise.

This post has been edited by sshark: Oct 9 2007, 03:43 PM