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TSericwidaz
post Aug 24 2020, 02:12 PM, updated 6y ago

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Hi there,

There was one day when my wife was taking pictures of my kid running around the field with her iPhone 8 and, she'd try to zoom the shots to capture. The picture turned out to be blurry (pixelated).

Therefore, we were thinking if a DSLR will solve that particular issue. Upon looking at the prices of DSLRs, we were also wondering if this justifies the cost or maybe it may be better to get a phone with better camera. By all means, we are not professional photographers, but it'd be nice if we are able to capture pictures which will not blur upon zooming.

The DSLR I am currently looking at is:

Nikon D3500 (warranty 2 years by Nikon - not supplier warranty)
Tamron 18-270mm PZD (so I don't have to keep changing lenses for different shots)
Athabasca 62mm filter
All comes with bag and 16GB memory card

TOTAL: RM3060

Is the above camera better than a phone camera, or there's no difference from a very good camera phone? Is the price mentioned a good deal or should I look elsewhere? Or should I consider a cheaper DSLR alternative since I am in no way a professional? I would pretty much like a auto focus function though.

Thank you.
TSericwidaz
post Aug 24 2020, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Aug 24 2020, 02:17 PM)
honestly. just no

DSLR was not design for average user.
it more lile a prosumer/professional tools.

i practice photography.

i can shoot great photo with smartphone today.

the key problem was not the tools
is your photography skills......
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Fair enough. Is there a camera then which I could use it to zoom without having to move forward for a capture which is not as complicated as a DSLR?
TSericwidaz
post Aug 24 2020, 02:46 PM

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Yes, my initial thought is that it will definitely gather dust as this is more of an impulse buying to solve an issue which may or may not be happen all the time. Also, yes, it's gonna be a pain to lug around a big @55 camera every time we go out.

So true that zoom lens is never enough when you need it most. Therefore, I was also wondering if there is a compact camera which has 20X optical zoom or 40X optical zoom which is a relatively smaller/cheaper version of a full fledged DSLR camera.
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post Aug 24 2020, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(catsper @ Aug 24 2020, 02:57 PM)
Not sure how far you are going to zoom. No, a DSLR is not what you need, a Sony RX100 VII pocket cam would be ideal but not at your budget. Maybe a Huawei P30/P40 Pro but will still blur as shutter and image stabilisation could not keep up with motion.
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Errrmmmm... give or take, the object is probably about 25 - 30 meters away?

TSericwidaz
post Aug 24 2020, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(catsper @ Aug 24 2020, 03:35 PM)
That is pretty far, like those shooting sports around the football field or ice skating rink. 
To save money, better zoom with your feet. Let see if others have better suggestion.
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I just came across this:

https://www.cameralabs.com/canon-powershot-sx740-hs-review/
TSericwidaz
post Aug 24 2020, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(curaptz @ Aug 24 2020, 02:28 PM)
my friend (not professional) bought DSLR. After a year, DSLR rotten in store. End up bought p30 pro. Pro wannabe but failed hard. what he used to do is, take photo with DSLR then edit. what's the point as you still edit the coloring etc.

moral of the stories, DSLR is not justified if you're not pro. moreover, it is big to carry everywhere. When u walk alot, even 0.5kg is still burdening to your neck.
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You have a valid point there. Thanks!
TSericwidaz
post Aug 24 2020, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Aug 24 2020, 02:31 PM)
Smartphones have very limited zoom capability. At most they have 3 dedicated zoom steps. Most only have 2 steps (1x and 2x) only. Anything in between would be hybrid zoom, not actual optical zoom.

I'm guessing your wife tried to zoom all the way. Even on normal cameras, this would probably step into the digital zoom, which means quality degrades the more you zoom it.

I'm no pro photographer myself. But I understand the feeling of wanting to get closer to the subject. And when I zoom, I am always cautious that the camera doesn't step into the digital zoom mode.

I've had zoom cameras in the past, from 5x and up to 15x optical...but it seems that you can never have enough zoom lense. There will always be a case of needing more zoom.
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I just came across this:

https://www.cameralabs.com/canon-powershot-sx740-hs-review/
TSericwidaz
post Aug 24 2020, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel Joseph @ Aug 24 2020, 04:08 PM)
You going to that DSLR few times and later collect dust.
After all the hassle of bringing DSLR around.
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Yes, you are most probably right. I should be looking at compact cameras instead instead of DSLR.
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post Aug 24 2020, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 24 2020, 04:29 PM)
The more entry level it is, the more difficult to capture photos.

From what I've used so far, a camera like Canon Powershot G7X III at around RM 2.4k will do a better job.

Face focus and all with burst mode, best way to capture kid photos without breaking your bank account.
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Thanks for the recommendation. Is the lens of 24-100mm sufficient (for shots 25-30 meters away)?

This post has been edited by ericwidaz: Aug 24 2020, 04:44 PM
TSericwidaz
post Aug 25 2020, 08:29 AM

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A very sincere thanks for your comments and recommendations. Yes, I find that this is mostly an impulse want and the scenario which I have described may not happen often (just once in a while) where the object is so far away that I'd need a camera to capture that object.

A camera is not exactly cheap and for that money, I could either buy a new phone or better yet, go on vacation with my family and still capture precious moments with my existing phone.

I will, however, consider everyone's feedback and make the appropriate choice.

Thanks again!
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post Aug 26 2020, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Aug 26 2020, 08:12 AM)
Not really. you could get a really good quality let's say m43 camera with a kit lens for around <RM2k. (unless you think that in itself is expensive... but I'm working around your quoted budget of RM3k) Shop around a little bit and you'll be surprised. THe Olympus EPL series are fairly affordable, if you look at the Canon EOS M, xxxxD series, or the Nikon D3xxx series, they are also fairly cheaper models falling around the <RM2k budget. You don't look like you're going to invest a lot in lenses, so you want an ecosystem where the cheaper glass is decent, abundant, and widely available. All the other brands have fantastic quality as long as you are willing to spend a little bit more. nothing wrong with kit lenses though.

This is just purely my own calculation:

EPL-9+14-42mm ez = RM2000
40-150mm f4-5.6 = RM500
= RM2500 (this is a high quotation just based on shopee/lazada pricing) You could actually find it cheaper. I've seen the 40-150mm go for around RM300. <-- the online shops have physical shops in KL if you don't mind visiting them and feel it's safer. I also recommend that you go to the shop instead of online shopping, cause I know touching/feeling them is a major part of the purchase process.

that would satisfy I think the majority of your shooting needs already. Again, just trying to say you can get things way below your budget that serves your desire to 'zoom in closer'; not a BIG and HEAVY setup; user-friendly (the EPL series, or other brand equivalents are catered for new users).... but dang, after I say that, nothing wrong with more advanced users carrying a lighter setup eh? hahahaha

If you go to reputable camera stores with a good used section, you could get started even cheaper... but I know for a person who is new to this, dwelling in the used market is quite daunting. At the store, you could even CCM if you find the RM2k budget a bit higher than what you would like.

Damn I sound like a sales man... hahaha

Cheers mate. I too had the same 'curiousness' way back then. Now I'm at the deep end of the GAS pool.  tongue.gif  drool.gif
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This one?

https://shopee.com.my/Olympus-Pen-E-PL9-EPL...5188.1931507736

I was actually thinking of this:

https://shopee.com.my/Sony-Cybershot-HX99-D...9777.1945098213
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post Aug 27 2020, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Aug 26 2020, 07:31 PM)
https://camerasize.com/compact/

Can go to this website to compare sizes and attach lens to gauge your expectations of how big/small it is.

To many people, size and portability is of great importance
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Thanks, buddy!

 

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