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 Honda City GN 2, IMMD + Honda Sensing = RM106k

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post Nov 18 2020, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Nov 15 2020, 02:09 PM)
People love to compare X50 Flagship vs City V but they always forget their price difference. Differing by RM18,000, City V price/value is still very competitive.

X50 Flagship 1.5T engine 0-100kmph is 9.9s (tested) while City V 1.5NA engine 0-100kmph is 10.4s (tested). It is pretty impressive for a NA engine. Those who said new GN2 engine is underpowered can go ____ themselves (many comments on FB)  doh.gif

I now only realize Honda has a lot of haters when I read through the comments in Facebook. Some even said New Almera more powerful than City  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif

I think Honda City gets less spotlight is because Honda didn't do much advertisement, compared to Nissan and Proton. All the videos about X50 and Almera has been all over in Youtube but City test drive + full review is none so far. Why Honda doesn't give those Youtubers the car to test out first? Really bad marketing there
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believe or not , honda actually being targeted by a group of cybertrooper specially hired to tarnish their reputation
their employer is unknown but mostly likely is the P brand which currently hired alot of cybertrooper to defend their new shinny drink fuel like no tomorrow car

so whatever on facebook , especially comment by those no profile picture one just ignore them

Almera behave like a diesel car to be honest , it have pool of torque throwing to your face when on low speed but the ability of acceleration is close to 0
if you drove any pickup before you will understand what im talking about , a 2.4 hilux feel plenty powerful while driving , but in actual fact , it can only do 0-100 in 14second ... but when u drive it you wont feel the car slow because the torque keep pushing

QUOTE(4EveRLonE @ Nov 15 2020, 01:06 PM)
Deal breaker factor mainly is the space and the rear seats of city, which much more comfortable for my parents when sitting on the back

I was comparing V spec and X50 flagship as these two are under my radar, I’ve test driven both twice. I’m quite like the features and all the ADAS packed in the x50 flagship, along with the 1.5 turbo which can make the driving much more spirited  brows.gif  and the all round disc brakes are good in stopping the car. X50 gives me an impression of “semi conti” car feels which is quite refreshing for me.

At this point, I probably sounds like I’m all in for the X50 and initially I almost make the call. But things changed after my numerous time of visiting the showroom (both Honda & Proton) and when I start to look on both cars in depth. I start off from looking around the things that I will touch and feel the most on my daily driving & usage which that’s where the city starts to feel more appealing to me

Some examples: (my personal opinion)
1. The interior door handle feels much more solid on city compare to X50 when pull
2. The leather on the door cards feels better and thicker than the ones than X50
3. The leather seats feels better quality than the ones in X50
4. The switches and knobs feels better than the ones in X50
5. Apple car play & android auto (once I tested on city, I can’t unseen it)
6. Speakers sounds better than the ones in X50
7. Feeling not too cramp when the car full on 5 adults compare to X50
8. The steering looks and feels on touch more appeal to my liking on city

Power delivery on city is decent although there is no turbocharger, power is quite ok for an 1.5 NA.

Coming from driving an GM6 for 5 years (and experienced from the infamous quality related issues), although current generation is not an revolutionary changes from GM6 but for me it have noticeable improvement over the GM6, overall build quality feels a bit more solid and better than GM6. Hope it will age better than my previous GM6. The regrettable part is that there are no Honda sensing..unless I go for RS IMMD

At the end of the day, choosing city over X50 in a way saves me 17K to relocate for other purpose and the NA DOHC will be hassle free to deal with as it is a simple & tested mechanism
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yup the door handle for this gen city is really solid

maintenance on x50 is really questionable and spare part availability is another major concern, as of today, some service center unable to service x50 due to lack of parts... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Nov 18 2020, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Nov 15 2020, 10:39 PM)
If back passenger seats are your first priority, I think C segments car can be Civic and Altis, I am not sure about korean cars though.

Maybe u can go showroom see the new Almera? People say it has very wide back passenger space
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c segment best space is civic

altis is even smaller than vios TBH

almera dont even consider it , it is much narrower than city rclxm9.gif
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post Nov 18 2020, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 18 2020, 01:47 PM)
believe or not , honda actually being targeted by a group of cybertrooper specially hired to tarnish their reputation
their employer is unknown but mostly likely is the P brand which currently hired alot of cybertrooper to defend their new shinny drink fuel like no tomorrow car

so whatever on facebook , especially comment by those no profile picture one just ignore them

Almera behave like a diesel car to be honest , it have pool of torque throwing to your face when on low speed but the ability of acceleration is close to 0
if you drove any pickup before you will understand what im talking about , a 2.4 hilux feel plenty powerful while driving , but in actual fact , it can only do 0-100 in 14second ... but when u drive it you wont feel the car slow because the torque keep pushing
yup the door handle for this gen city is really solid

maintenance on x50 is really questionable and spare part availability is another major concern, as of today, some service center unable to service x50 due to lack of parts...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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test-drove the Almera the other day, yes you are right about the 3cylinder turbo engine. From 0-80kmph is pretty impressive, but after 80kmph, I want to top up to 120kmph, I can really feel it is having difficult time already.

For super jammed city drive, it is probably more than enough. but if you want to overtake cars at highway, you probably need a lot of room to do it with confidence.
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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Nov 18 2020, 04:45 PM)
test-drove the Almera the other day, yes you are right about the 3cylinder turbo engine. From 0-80kmph is pretty impressive, but after 80kmph, I want to top up to 120kmph, I can really feel it is having difficult time already.

For super jammed city drive, it is probably more than enough. but if you want to overtake cars at highway, you probably need a lot of room to do it with confidence.
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yup
over 80 almera will have a hard time acceleration

but online reviewer not dare show also
they always show high rev acceleration
tekan to max pedal rclxm9.gif
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post Nov 19 2020, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 18 2020, 04:47 PM)
yup
over 80 almera will have a hard time acceleration

but online reviewer not dare show also
they always show high rev acceleration
tekan to max pedal  rclxm9.gif
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Have u gotten ur car yet?
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post Nov 19 2020, 10:08 AM

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I know honda don't recommend it but anybody know how far does immd can go in an empty tank?
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post Nov 19 2020, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Nov 19 2020, 10:08 AM)
I know honda don't recommend it but anybody know how far does immd can go in an empty tank?
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Found the answer here on hybrid car below.

No the car wont move. Though a hybrid vehicle can operate in electric-only mode when no petrol in the tank, it is not designed to run without it. Doing so could cause severe damage to the hybrid system, so drivers should be sure to keep gas in the tank at all times.
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post Nov 19 2020, 10:34 AM

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I'd better stick with n/a then. Waiting is suck
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post Nov 19 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Nov 19 2020, 10:34 AM)
I'd better stick with n/a then. Waiting is suck
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I cant settle wit lower spec.
Future proof need at least haveing lvl 2 automous drive like Honda Sensing.
I am sure next year, all car will be equip with such features.
So i will patient wait for another 1.5 months.
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:06 AM

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I've been reading good reviews on hybrid cars like insight. Thats why I'm having second thought. Plus I love high pickup.
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post Nov 19 2020, 12:51 PM

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I nv own a hybrid car b4. City RS will be my first. If it goes well, plan to change my SUV to hybrid too.
City RS estimated 3.7ltr/km i think.
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post Nov 19 2020, 01:45 PM

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Just a reminder for those waiting for RS.

Never buy hybrid for its fuel saving property. The battery change after 8 years will cover back all the fuel u saved over 8 years.

Buy hybrid car for its quiet cabin, smooth acceleration and the low RPM torque.

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post Nov 19 2020, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Nov 19 2020, 01:45 PM)
Just a reminder for those waiting for RS.

Never buy hybrid for its fuel saving property. The battery change after 8 years will cover back all the fuel u saved over 8 years.

Buy hybrid car for its quiet cabin, smooth acceleration and the low RPM torque.
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And haven't offset for the low resale value yet... My old neighborhood got one prius 3rd-gen kena abandoned, probably cannot sell out...
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post Nov 19 2020, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Nov 19 2020, 08:20 AM)
Have u gotten ur car yet?
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Gotten mine last Friday nod.gif
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post Nov 19 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Nov 19 2020, 10:41 AM)
I cant settle wit lower spec.
Future proof need at least haveing lvl 2 automous drive like Honda Sensing.
I am sure next year, all car will be equip with such features.
So i will patient wait for another 1.5 months.
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well C segment above maybe
but generally B segment wont have L2 until maybe their facelift time

currently only x50 flagship come with it

honda city rs not fully L2 as lack of low speed follow

vios only have AEB and lane keep assist
almera have AEB only


maybe Perodua will surprise us with the D55L with L2 (if they bring the entire system from Rocky )
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post Nov 19 2020, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 19 2020, 02:29 PM)
well C segment above maybe
but generally B segment wont have L2 until maybe their facelift time

currently only x50 flagship come with it

honda city rs not fully L2  as lack of low speed follow

vios only have AEB and lane keep assist
almera have AEB only
maybe Perodua will surprise us with the D55L with L2 (if they bring the entire system from Rocky )
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can drive 1 meh Perodua car ? their new myvi can see , but when u drive , argh , its so terrible ....and u got to remind urself its a 50k car only.

dont expect too much whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Nov 19 2020, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ Nov 19 2020, 02:45 PM)
can drive 1 meh Perodua car ? their new myvi can see , but when u drive , argh , its so terrible ....and u got to remind urself its a 50k car only.

dont expect too much whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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why not , just poorer refinement n less engine power

and they have AEB on most Myvi being sold whistling.gif

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post Nov 19 2020, 04:44 PM

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Anyone what is the size width size of V spec rim? Can install 205/55/r16 tyre?
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post Nov 19 2020, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(acid_head @ Nov 19 2020, 04:44 PM)
Anyone what is the size width size of V spec rim? Can install 205/55/r16 tyre?
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6J
can install 205 but its the maximum
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post Nov 19 2020, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Nov 19 2020, 01:45 PM)
Just a reminder for those waiting for RS.

Never buy hybrid for its fuel saving property. The battery change after 8 years will cover back all the fuel u saved over 8 years.

Buy hybrid car for its quiet cabin, smooth acceleration and the low RPM torque.
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Yes, back in year 2010 where battery cause RM20k a pop.
Now battery is getting cheaper and cheaper as we speak.
The last quote for Jazz hybrid batt is about RM5k.
Another 5 years?
Maybe RM3k or lesser.
Technology change.

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