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 prc hackers stole taiwan chip design & source code, the group named chimera

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post Aug 9 2020, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Aug 9 2020, 06:44 PM)
i understand computer, but i just dont understand how they able to detect the hacker, but unable to protect their secret.

technically it is 100X more difficult to trace and identify the hacker compare to just setup firewall or protection for your content, but why all these dumb ass failed to do the simpler job, but able to achieve the much difficult job ?
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post Aug 9 2020, 11:57 PM

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As Sima Yi puts it, even petty theft is a "capability" in reference to Zhuge Liang's tactic using ox cart to steal Sima Yi's supplies.


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post Aug 10 2020, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Aug 9 2020, 11:43 PM)
thats bullshit, like your house never lock your door, some thief able to go in, the thief need 200 days to move your house ? it doesnt matter how much information you have within an hour, everything gone d, and if the hacker is good, able to wipe his own trace after disconnect.
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Nothing can defend 0 day exploit.

Using your analogy, your Taman got burglary cases for two years already. Even after upgraded security, burglar keep breaking it using new innovative technique (0 day attack) that your security can't keep up.

You want to know who attack your Taman so you hire a Private Investigation firm(PI). After hiring PI firm, then they conclude it from one known suspect group by analysing their burglaring pattern. The PI firm notice the past two years burglar never attack during PRC public holidays and found trace of burglar note written in simplified Chinese that only PRC use. Hence the PI firm conclude the burglary is done by a PRC group.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-day_(computing)

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post Aug 10 2020, 12:12 AM

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dont know why west are such sore losers, or all the years they have been telling china to embark go from the nuclear to the rockets, space station, gps, bullet train, commercial airplane, 5g, and now the semiconductor field.

china can make it then say ppl steal, china cannot make it say ppl noob. but you know what? they got no time to entertain these bunch of losers, they most of the just keep quiet and carry on with their objectives.

ppl fail to notice that now is china leading the way for the world. but the west are trying everything that could to slow down them. so anti-human way of thinking. kek
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post Aug 10 2020, 12:22 AM

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CCP can fabricate 7nm yet?
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post Aug 10 2020, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(Pop The Bubbles @ Aug 10 2020, 12:22 AM)
CCP can fabricate 7nm yet?
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u nid license/approval to purchase the machine for production if im nt wrg
even if ccp "know" how to make, they cant sell it outside chyna as well
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post Aug 10 2020, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Pop The Bubbles @ Aug 10 2020, 12:22 AM)
CCP can fabricate 7nm yet?
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smic 14nm mass producing for huawei midrange phone, researching lvl on 7nm, their current ceo jumping from tsmc to smic. tsmc has the euv machine to fabricate 5nm for kirin 1020. up coming ban will prohibit them from ordering from tsmc, smic euv machine by asml was on hold by US. so US is using whatever they can to stop china from getting their 7nm and below.

but someone in /k working in huawei said they have something on their sleeves. so lets see what will happen next. but if other china smartphone companies notice that they might be the next target, they might collaborate with each other to ditch tsmc chip.
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post Aug 10 2020, 12:41 AM

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to me taiwan is anti-CCP. so any anti-CCP stuffs they say = propaganda.

Likewise, CCP is anti-taiwan. hence any anti-taiwan CCP says is also propaganda


This is the real truth.
Anyone who believes in this news = Taiwan buttlickier. Anyone who does not believe in this news is CCP buttlicker

Everyone is a buttlicker.
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post Aug 10 2020, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Aug 9 2020, 07:17 PM)
Incoming huawei 7nm 5.1ghz 16 core 32 threads cpu selling 2k only
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China zhaoxin release KaiXian KX-U6780A proc, Performance almost on par with i5 7600k
China release new 8 core CPU. Intel AMD killer
31 Jan 2020
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4898992
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4899365

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Jim Keller Resigns from Intel
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4978528
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post Aug 10 2020, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 9 2020, 06:42 PM)
CCP really need to realize doing all this will just ruin their reputation and trust towards their system.
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What's trust got to do with anything. In the end consumer will just pick best value for money
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post Aug 10 2020, 01:09 AM

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Why spend years of research and money while they can just copy or steal it, it's nothing wrong in their culture, society and laws too.
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post Aug 10 2020, 01:26 AM

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how taiwan know is from china and not other country?
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post Aug 10 2020, 01:30 AM

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Who stole my secret
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post Aug 10 2020, 01:32 AM

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staff: boss we got a fail login attempt through out the week but less on sat and sun
boss: china weekend is sat and sun! coincident? i think not! this is proof cn is hacking us!


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post Aug 10 2020, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 9 2020, 06:42 PM)
CCP really need to realize doing all this will just ruin their reputation and trust towards their system.
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you do know that US also became a superpower by copying right? not that I'm supporting CCP, but this is standard fare in global politics.
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post Aug 10 2020, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(malibuchong @ Aug 10 2020, 01:26 AM)
how taiwan know is from china and not other country?
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The one that accuse is a private CyberSecurity firm not a country

I attached the 26pages white paper report. On how they come to conclusions who is the attacker


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Attached File  _TLP_White_20200415_Chimera_V4.1.pdf ( 2.25mb ) Number of downloads: 2
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post Aug 10 2020, 02:04 AM

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post Aug 10 2020, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Aug 10 2020, 01:49 AM)
you do know that US also became a superpower by copying right? not that I'm supporting CCP, but this is standard fare in global politics.
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Wrong

US become superpower by attracting top talent immigrants to migrate to the land of freedom
Moon landing will not happen without Germans and Austrian top scientists in NASA as an example

While China have problems to accept talents from outside so they decide to just plagiarise everything


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post Aug 10 2020, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 10 2020, 02:08 AM)
Wrong

US become superpower by attracting top talent immigrants to migrate to the land of freedom
Moon landing will not happen without Germans and Austrian top scientists in NASA as an example

While China have problems to accept talents from outside so they decide to just plagiarise everything
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china china dahulu, jepun jepun kemudian.
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post Aug 10 2020, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(bumpo @ Aug 10 2020, 01:32 AM)
staff: boss we got a fail login attempt through out the week but less on sat and sun
boss: china weekend is sat and sun! coincident? i think not! this is proof cn is hacking us!
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They also analysing the weapon used, pattern of the attack, the combination of techniques they used

One of the main weapon of attack is SkeletonKeyInjector, fake Google update, fake RAR program. They know exactly which hacker group used that combination attack based on previous attack profiling

Like when you saw F22 fire a missiles to KLCC, you can confidently say USA is the culprit since only USA use F22

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/...threats-in-2020
https://medium.com/cycraft/taiwan-high-tech...up-5473d2ad8730

This post has been edited by Imp Bron: Aug 10 2020, 02:21 AM

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