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TSSir_Jim
post Aug 6 2020, 08:21 PM, updated 4y ago

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Looking for new shoes for my SUV, size 225/65R17..

dealer said Michelin just bring in Primacy 4 SUV for this size, but couldn't find any review on it..
the more common tyres that I found is the one launched in year 2015/2016, Primacy SUV.. both tyres having the same 102H rating.

Any one tried both, which one more recommended for SUV? or any other brands which is quiet, good grip in dry/wet, okay performance tyres? can last 40k km at least??

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post Aug 6 2020, 11:24 PM

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If the mileage is your main concern, Michelin is great to go. Just to share my experience with you with my Michelin experience, though im not using the same size n model as u mentioned.

My tyre size 235/60R18, Michelin Primacy ST3. Total clock around 80+k-ish km with 2-3 weeks check tyre pressure and 10+k to 20k-ish km tyre rotation. - no tyre chip so far as you can see in XM2 or Pilot Sport 3 or 4.

Due to this size is not standard size and it is a little bit taller, in term of tyre noise, it manage a great one. Stability
and water planning is not that great.

Overall, if my rear tyre did not "eat" inner side, i think the Michelin can go around 100+k km easily. I still have 2 more pcs in the front. And recently just changed to Yoko BluEarth-XT AE61 for rear with standard size 235/55R18. No comment on it so far.

Verdict, if money is not an issue, go for Michelin. Though it is more expensive than competitor but it really last longer. Oh ya, last time im using XM2 for other car, 4 pcs tyre clock around 110-120k km with the same maintenance mentioned as above.
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post Aug 7 2020, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Aug 6 2020, 11:24 PM)
If the mileage is your main concern, Michelin is great to go. Just to share my experience with you with my Michelin experience, though im not using the same size n model as u mentioned.

My tyre size 235/60R18, Michelin Primacy ST3. Total clock around 80+k-ish km with 2-3 weeks check tyre pressure and 10+k to 20k-ish km tyre rotation. - no tyre chip so far as you can see in XM2 or Pilot Sport 3 or 4.

Due to this size is not standard size and it is a little bit taller, in term of tyre noise, it manage a great one. Stability
and water planning is not that great.

Overall, if my rear tyre did not "eat" inner side, i think the Michelin can go around 100+k km easily. I still have 2 more pcs in the front. And recently just changed to Yoko BluEarth-XT AE61 for rear with standard size 235/55R18. No comment on it so far.

Verdict, if money is not an issue, go for Michelin. Though it is more expensive than competitor but it really last longer. Oh ya, last time im using XM2 for other car, 4 pcs tyre clock around 110-120k km with the same maintenance mentioned as above.
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Thanks for sharing..

Yeah, im looking into getting michelin to replace my current tyres, merely 30k km, with side tread left maybe 5mm.. Continent brand.. Unsure if should just keep it running till reach the marking, or change tyres directly..

Pirimacy 4 for SUV kinda new for market, but no review.. Worry it is as not as good as old model primacy suv..
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post Aug 7 2020, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 7 2020, 12:29 AM)
Thanks for sharing..

Yeah, im looking into getting michelin to replace my current tyres, merely 30k km, with side tread left maybe 5mm.. Continent brand.. Unsure if should just keep it running till reach the marking, or change tyres directly..

Pirimacy 4 for SUV kinda new for market, but no review.. Worry it is as not as good as old model primacy suv..
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I believe u meant your current tyre is Continental. Michelin did mention the Primacy SUV is to replace Latitude version where it cost RM800 per pcs around this price for my standard tyre size, 235/55R18. So i think Primacy SUV is good to go. Whether you want to change now or wait till your current tyre touches the warning line then is up to your choice. But you wont go wrong with Michelin brand. Cheers.
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post Aug 8 2020, 05:38 PM

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I'm looking for my CRV too, but they said treadwear for primacy 4 is worse than the normal primacy... But newer model...

This post has been edited by Ekash: Aug 8 2020, 05:46 PM
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post Aug 8 2020, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 8 2020, 05:38 PM)
I'm looking for my CRV too, but they said treadwear for primacy 4 is worse than the normal primacy... But newer model...
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Izzit? I did not compare becoz i have no intend to get Primacy anymore becoz tyre size matter. Unless im loaded i can go directly to Latitude Sport
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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Aug 8 2020, 07:43 PM)
Izzit? I did not compare becoz i have no intend to get Primacy anymore becoz tyre size matter. Unless im loaded i can go directly to Latitude Sport
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That's the feedback from certain dealers.. Their prices about primacy4 RM430 vs SUV RM470...
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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 8 2020, 09:40 PM)
That's the feedback from certain dealers.. Their prices about primacy4 RM430 vs SUV RM470...
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Ops. Sorry. I did not know actually they are diff. Lol.
Then my mistake. Is actually Primacy SUV to replace Latitude series.
Hence, i think u can go for SUV series instead of Primacy 4. Probably Primacy 4 is for MPV?
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post Aug 9 2020, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 8 2020, 09:40 PM)
That's the feedback from certain dealers.. Their prices about primacy4 RM430 vs SUV RM470...
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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Aug 9 2020, 01:00 AM)
Ops. Sorry. I did not know actually they are diff. Lol.
Then my mistake. Is actually Primacy SUV to replace Latitude series.
Hence, i think u can go for SUV series instead of Primacy 4. Probably Primacy 4 is for MPV?
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Thanks for sharing! Will go kedai papan to check out, hearsay there cheapest, maybe can get below 430 for primacy suv too..
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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 9 2020, 11:30 AM)
Thanks for sharing! Will go kedai papan to check out, hearsay there cheapest, maybe can get below 430 for primacy suv too..
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Nice. Please ask the kedai papan how much Primacy SUV 235/60R18 for me please. Thanks.
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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 6 2020, 08:21 PM)
Looking for new shoes for my SUV, size 225/65R17..

dealer said Michelin just bring in Primacy 4 SUV for this size, but couldn't find any review on it..
the more common tyres that I found is the one launched in year 2015/2016, Primacy SUV.. both tyres having the same 102H rating.

Any one tried both, which one more recommended for SUV?  or any other brands which is quiet, good grip in dry/wet, okay performance tyres? can last 40k km at least??
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Michelin PS4 SUV is the best.
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post Aug 9 2020, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 7 2020, 12:29 AM)
Thanks for sharing..

Yeah, im looking into getting michelin to replace my current tyres, merely 30k km, with side tread left maybe 5mm.. Continent brand.. Unsure if should just keep it running till reach the marking, or change tyres directly..

Pirimacy 4 for SUV kinda new for market, but no review.. Worry it is as not as good as old model primacy suv..
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5mm is still a lot, just keep using it until teach the tread marker which usually around 1.5mm. FYI new tires are usually around 7mm.
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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Aug 9 2020, 11:50 AM)
Nice. Please ask the kedai papan how much Primacy SUV 235/60R18 for me please. Thanks.
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let me find out one day to check it out..

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 9 2020, 04:50 PM)
Michelin PS4 SUV is the best.
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I think this PS4 is too costly, at least 700+??

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 9 2020, 04:53 PM)
5mm is still a lot, just keep using it until teach the tread marker which usually around 1.5mm. FYI new tires are usually around 7mm.
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Ooh nooo, meaning i don't need change yet?? If i compare to center tread, guess still look like new! Just the side tread wear faster, due to soft sidewall?
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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 9 2020, 10:00 PM)
Ooh nooo, meaning i don't need change yet?? If i compare to center tread, guess still look like new! Just the side tread wear faster,  due to soft sidewall?
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Did u check your alignment or chamber?
Or your tyre pressure? Tyre pressure too low will cause your side tread wear faster.
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post Aug 9 2020, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 9 2020, 10:00 PM)
let me find out one day to check it out..
I think this PS4 is too costly, at least 700+??
Ooh nooo, meaning i don't need change yet?? If i compare to center tread, guess still look like new! Just the side tread wear faster,  due to soft sidewall?
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Should not be that expensive for your size. I think should be around 500+.
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post Aug 10 2020, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Aug 9 2020, 10:25 PM)
Did u check your alignment or chamber?
Or your tyre pressure? Tyre pressure too low will cause your side tread wear faster.
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Checked, but dealers said should b common for this tyre, soft sidewall... Im not expert on it, so that's thought wanna change it... He sell near 470, seems pricier than others, so i didn't change with him..

QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 9 2020, 11:27 PM)
Should not be that expensive for your size. I think should be around 500+.
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PS4 is for racing and noisier?? Mine just an old suv, cannot go.
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post Aug 10 2020, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 10 2020, 12:23 AM)
Checked, but dealers said should b common for this tyre, soft sidewall... Im not expert on it, so that's thought wanna change it... He sell near 470, seems pricier than others, so i didn't change with him..
PS4 is for racing and noisier?? Mine just an old suv, cannot go.
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It's PS4 SUV la, also suitable for SUV. Since when PS4 suitable for racing somore more? It's still a normal street tire, not track ready race tire.
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post Aug 10 2020, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 10 2020, 12:23 AM)
Checked, but dealers said should b common for this tyre, soft sidewall... Im not expert on it, so that's thought wanna change it... He sell near 470, seems pricier than others, so i didn't change with him..
What tyre u using now? And whata the mileage on it?
Where are u from again?

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PS4 is for racing and noisier?? Mine just an old suv, cannot go.
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A little noisier maybe due to the tread pattern but better aquaplanning n more stable on cornering. Not sure whether will have tyre chip issue but will not affect the tyre performance. Win some, lose some.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 10 2020, 12:43 AM)
It's PS4 SUV la, also suitable for SUV. Since when PS4 suitable for racing somore more? It's still a normal street tire, not track ready race tire.
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PS4 is sport tyre??

QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Aug 10 2020, 07:19 AM)
What tyre u using now? And whata the mileage on it?
Where are u from again?
A little noisier maybe due to the tread pattern but better aquaplanning n more stable on cornering. Not sure whether will have tyre chip issue but will not affect the tyre performance. Win some, lose some.
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continental, i think 30k+ only, still left some... i guess better ask my SC to check and see if need replace.. like comfort and quiet ride as alw travel with car...
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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Aug 10 2020, 08:09 PM)
PS4 is sport tyre??

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Yes, it's a sporty street tire (UHP category), one of the best all rounder street tire on the market coz it provides excellent well balanced grip in both dry and wet so it's a very safe handling tire.

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