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Hoshiyuu
post Apr 11 2022, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Apr 11 2022, 04:32 PM)
Wah 3 hours. I thought started after 4pm. And I need to use in a hurry. Have to fallback to backup for times like this.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Apr 11 2022, 04:38 PM)
i've tried before 11am, system busy until now laugh.gif
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I've talked to TnG CS, she say it's dead due to ePemula. She expects that it'll stay dead for the rest of the entire day and I can start trying tomorrow instead.

Ah well. I'll just GO+ it out then. My money will arrive at the same time at this rate.
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post Apr 11 2022, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Apr 11 2022, 04:48 PM)
Suspected earlier on was epemula is the cause  doh.gif

Even you Go transfer out it will arrives only by Wednesday so you better off waiting DuitNow by tomorrow
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Did it before 4pm so its ok
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post Mar 19 2023, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 19 2023, 10:29 PM)
tng 1k...
bigpay 1k....

anymore can reload ka? only 1 cc able to filled up...
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IIRC KiplePay still have 1k, but you can't Duitnow there and can only use from the Debit card, still okay for me, not sure if suitable for your case.
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post Mar 20 2023, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(songokujames @ Mar 20 2023, 07:42 AM)
1K lazada wallet, shopee pay seem will follow tng  also.
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Isn't withdrawal-ish behaviour on those platform with CC reloaded funds an instant death sentence 99% of the time? I've seen enough ghost story that I've never tried those, more tips appreciated 😸
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post Apr 3 2023, 11:11 AM

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Goinvest and GO+ different things, one of them is completely useless so becareful LOL
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post Apr 3 2023, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 3 2023, 11:12 AM)
If you wanna warn people to be careful, maybe you should tell us which one is completely useless and why?
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Okay so, since you prompted for a more serious answer, I'll just provide the facts and let readers decide which is which, which I think is a fairer way to handle spirit of the question.

GO+ is the rather no-fuss well integrated MMF with TnG eWallet that has been around for a while, and supports auto cash out when eWallet balance is low when making payments/toll and what not.
It's using Principal e-Cash Fund (Class A) as it's underlying fund. Current pays out a decent annualized yield of ~3.5% or so daily. Very liquid instant deposit and withdrawal (to eWallet). Straightforward, advertised rates are net of fees (On the GO+ page). I believe it has a hard limit of <10k if I recall correctly? Happy to be corrected.
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GOInvest is basically a miniapp in TnG eWallet that onboards you to Principle Asset Management and offers you Principal Islamic Money Market Fund (Class D). Cash out takes up to 3 business day to be processed. So far demonstrates strictly inferior returns. It's also very likely to start pushing absolutely worthless unit trust product later on too due to the nature of the miniapp.
On a more subjective note, I find the "EARN 3.7% P.A!***" advertisement right below GO+'s Nett Daily Return Rate of 3.56% (captured 3/4/2023) misleading and reeks of bad investment salesmanship.
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Discussion and corrections very welcomed! I'm by no means a smart bean, and I'm happy to learn from my mistakes.

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post Apr 3 2023, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Apr 3 2023, 12:12 PM)
The money market funds with advertised "up to" are never near that numbers. It's a way to trick the customer to see bigger number but in fact it'll almost never come close to it.

And they are not bounded to give you these rates because it's "up-to". So don't fall for it.
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Yeah pretty much. "Just don't." is the answer to 99% of such product.

Doubly so when perfectly proven and paying product like GO+, Versa, KDI Save exist where the fund manager is actively propping them up with money from other place *cough* their other funds with high fees that baited people in *cough* to attract people to their platform. [[citation needed]]
Eat the bait but don't get hooked up.
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post Apr 3 2023, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 3 2023, 12:24 PM)
Bro why you compare the income distribution history only? You didn't include the NAV changes in GOinvest?

GO+ NAV won't change but GOinvest NAV will increase over time. If you add the NAV changes and income distribution, the GOinvest will be slightly higher than GO+ for that month.
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I quickly did some napkin math on the Dec 2022 - Jan 2023 with NAV growth + distribution and I've got around 2.3928% annualized yield for that month. This is before fees too. Can you share your calculation?

The chart I included is just a quick screenshot for reference, since GO+ fund don't offer a NAV chart for obvious reasons.

Though, this does once again highlight they are products of different nature...

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post Apr 7 2023, 09:14 AM

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I think those that get love letter for withdrawing CC fund probably just made it super obvious with instant withdrawal after deposit, and never use a single cents on TnG...?

Been withdrawing via GO+ to the limit every month since GO+ launched (10k++ before limit was imposed), and some of the funds are even reloaded and sent from relative phones, haven't receive any love letter yet...
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post Apr 7 2023, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Apr 7 2023, 10:14 AM)
I can safely say I don’t do that. Funds legit, only a couple of duitnow to hawker personal QR every week. I think mine is memang security precaution email because the app was acting  weird last night at alipay.
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Oh sorry if I caused misunderstanding, I don't mean your case. I am really happy that touchngo did that for you because the pattern would be very similar to a real fraudulent case. I would be more worried if they didn't do anything.
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post Apr 7 2023, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Apr 7 2023, 11:26 AM)
This is the reason why we can never have good things.
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You make it sound like the team behind these products doesn't know what they are doing and what is possible, and even if they didn't, they would need to somehow find out only through some obscure zombie forum or Facebook chat....


Be realistic.
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post Apr 7 2023, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Apr 7 2023, 12:06 PM)
Aim big if you want. Not limited to "RM1000".
Via "Duitnow QR" (merchant), don't spend at you own businesses ya but friends' businesses, easily >RM10000 per month.
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Out of curiosity, won't your friend's business reported renevue gets inflated and affect their taxation?
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post Apr 7 2023, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Apr 7 2023, 01:47 PM)
Replace cash payment from other clients.
Much easier if they are hawkers.
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Hmm, assume they don't already massively underreport their cash sales 😳

Thanks for the answer! Appreciate it.
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post Apr 7 2023, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Apr 7 2023, 01:55 PM)
Basic cashback + ad hoc campaign. Not impossible.
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Can concur... with 5 credit card I was paying my car's hire purchase installments entirely from cashback for the last year or so.

Of course now the era of free money is ending, most RM50 and RM80 options is being revised down to 30 and 50 with higher "total spend" conditions...

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post Jun 9 2023, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jun 9 2023, 08:56 AM)
Is there any issue with TnG app now? It logged me out since last night and cannot be logged in again. Is it only me?
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Not just you, but for my case, I was only logged out for 3 minutes around 1am, recovered fully after that.

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