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Aug 1 2020, 02:02 PM
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10000km or 1 year. Whichever comes first. RalphRatedR, Jebonmacho, and 2 others liked this post
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Aug 1 2020, 02:17 PM
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I’m curious also. Some of my cars barely reach 5000km per year.
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Aug 1 2020, 02:23 PM
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10k or 1 year Jebonmacho liked this post
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For umpteen years, my Avanza has been doing fine with 10,000 plus km up to 16,600 km with semisyn Total Energy 10W40 . Refer to Post #1 in my thread for 10,000 km plus km oil change intervals of a wide range of engine oils and wide range of engines . I'm sure your Honda 2.0L whatever age is not inferior in quality to my 2007 Avanza 1.3L engine right ?? Edit: Some oil analyses are available at Post #1 too . This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 1 2020, 02:38 PM mengsuan liked this post
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QUOTE(tiggywombat @ Aug 1 2020, 01:55 PM) Hi folks, If like that then for you better just change every 7500km using semi synth oil like what you use now. No need to change following time period.I seldom drive my car, every year around 7000KM driven only. It's a Honda Accord 2.0 VTi, using Shell Helix HX7 10w-40. How often do you change your oil? 6 months or 1 year? My owner's manual say if you always drive in weather above 32C (which is Malaysian weather) you should change every 6 months, but my mileage so low... |
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I just follow my manufacturer recommendation, every 10k km or 6 months, whichever comes first.
Use a synthetic blend recommended by Proton. I forgot the spec, probs 10W-40 as well. |
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Aug 1 2020, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Aug 1 2020, 08:45 PM) I just follow my manufacturer recommendation, every 10k km or 6 months, whichever comes first. Proton recommends 10k km for semisyn 10W40 ?Use a synthetic blend recommended by Proton. I forgot the spec, probs 10W-40 as well. Very honest and consumer-friendly OEM/Sc ! |
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Aug 1 2020, 09:36 PM
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OK thanks for input.. I'll just change every year then, regardless of mileage
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Aug 2 2020, 07:52 AM
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If you rarely change like my Exora, go for fully synthetic. These days you can get fully synthetic for around Rm 100 . Genuine full synthetic.
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once a year will do. the 6 months schedule could be a relic from the past when engine oil are of lower quality or simply because fleet owners and company cars typically follow schedule at official SC and this means more profit for them if they list the OCI to be more frequent.
but just think about it, the engine oil that can last 10,000km in the punishing environment of an ICE cannot sit in the engine at 35°C for a couple of months? that just doesn't make much sense does it. |
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Aug 2 2020, 11:54 AM
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I'm using fully synthetic and I change once a year.
I think if using fully synthetic oil, change once a year is good enough. And change the oil filter half yearly. |
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fully synthetic change every 10 000km or 6 month which ever come first
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QUOTE(niiwG @ Aug 2 2020, 11:54 AM) I'm using fully synthetic and I change once a year. How to change the oil filter (half year) without changing the oil (yearly)?I think if using fully synthetic oil, change once a year is good enough. And change the oil filter half yearly. In any case, try to change it 6month. If you stretch it to one year also should be fine. It all depends on the oil you get when you drain it. Look at the oil whether it is dark or not. Use fully synthetic cause it will not oxidize as fast as semi or mineral. Mineral will oxidize faster and recommended for high mileage users that change oil very frequently. For your low mileage and tahan longer oil, use fully syn. |
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QUOTE(abubin @ Aug 3 2020, 04:03 PM) How to change the oil filter (half year) without changing the oil (yearly)? depends on the make, on some cars such as many VW models you can actually remove the filter without the oil draining away, you probably still have some drips due to oil in the filter but not going to cause a massive waterfall. but i don't really know why the need to change the filter every 6 months....In any case, try to change it 6month. If you stretch it to one year also should be fine. It all depends on the oil you get when you drain it. Look at the oil whether it is dark or not. Use fully synthetic cause it will not oxidize as fast as semi or mineral. Mineral will oxidize faster and recommended for high mileage users that change oil very frequently. For your low mileage and tahan longer oil, use fully syn. |
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Aug 3 2020, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Aug 3 2020, 05:03 PM) How to change the oil filter (half year) without changing the oil (yearly)? I usually change my engine oil once mileage reach 10k km.In any case, try to change it 6month. If you stretch it to one year also should be fine. It all depends on the oil you get when you drain it. Look at the oil whether it is dark or not. Use fully synthetic cause it will not oxidize as fast as semi or mineral. Mineral will oxidize faster and recommended for high mileage users that change oil very frequently. For your low mileage and tahan longer oil, use fully syn. But in between 5 or 6k km I will change the oil filter. Its my usual practice and I'm using fully synthetic. Not much oil is lost when I change only the filter and I will top up the oil level after each filter change. |
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QUOTE(niiwG @ Aug 3 2020, 09:24 PM) I usually change my engine oil once mileage reach 10k km. but why do you do this? i have seen manufacturers recommend changing filter once every other oil change (2 x oil, 1 x filter) and also manufacturers recommending filter change at every oil change. I don't remember ever seeing 2 filter change for every oil change. you driving some kind of super exotic car?But in between 5 or 6k km I will change the oil filter. Its my usual practice and I'm using fully synthetic. Not much oil is lost when I change only the filter and I will top up the oil level after each filter change. i am genuinely curious about your rationale. |
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Aug 4 2020, 09:02 AM
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There are reasons why a lot of car manufacturer recommend to change every 6 months or 10000km. It is because oil can degrade due to expose to our high humid air.
In term of engine oil, not all engine oil can last 1 year only certain oil with high TBN designed for long mileage, long lasting can only last a year. (Amsoil Signature, Mobil 1 Extended Performance High Mileage, Etc.. ) I have seen a Kelisa with almost 5 years with only 20k mileage (Real 1 no edited), the owner only like change 2 or 3 times of oil only and when my mechanic open up the valve cover & oil pan it is fill with sludge on the bottom and also got some water vapor in the cover. The engine is no issue, but due to long time no drive, the contamination that should hold on by the engine oil would drop down to the bottom forming up the sludge. The water in the other hand is also due to engine did not really heated long enough to burn off the water vapor! FYI, for every pound of fuel burned in an engine, the combustion process also generates a pound of water! Water did not mix well with oil and will even faster degrade the oil.. This post has been edited by littlefire: Aug 4 2020, 09:06 AM |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 4 2020, 09:02 AM) 1. It is because oil can degrade due to expose to our high humid air. 1. while the engine oil system is not airtight, its not like the oil is just sitting there exposed to the environment.2. I have seen a Kelisa with almost 5 years with only 20k mileage (Real 1 no edited), the owner only like change 2 or 3 times of oil only and when my mechanic open up the valve cover & oil pan it is fill with sludge on the bottom and also got some water vapor in the cover. The engine is no issue, but due to long time no drive, the contamination that should hold on by the engine oil would drop down to the bottom forming up the sludge. 3.The water in the other hand is also due to engine did not really heated long enough to burn off the water vapor! FYI, for every pound of fuel burned in an engine, the combustion process also generates a pound of water! Water did not mix well with oil and will even faster degrade the oil.. 2. your example doesn't matter here since in your own words that car is changing oil less than once a year. also driving low mileage is different from a car that just sits there abandoned for months at a time. the issues you highlighted is probably due to the oil not circulating for months at a time as well as general neglect. 3. the stoichiometry is the same whether the car is driving 100km or 10,000km so in your example driving less means less water available to degrade the oil then? the point is, everyone knows by know that the car left sitting for months on end are going to be problematic. perhaps my previous reply wasn't clear, i meant couple of months cumulatively. car is still driven frequently, just clocking low mileage. |
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QUOTE(Zephyral @ Aug 4 2020, 11:38 AM) 1. while the engine oil system is not airtight, its not like the oil is just sitting there exposed to the environment. - You can sent for lab test for your oil. A lot of oil are not design for long lasting with expose environment. If not why all the oil bottle are sealed. https://www.motorverso.com/does-motor-oil-expire/2. your example doesn't matter here since in your own words that car is changing oil less than once a year. also driving low mileage is different from a car that just sits there abandoned for months at a time. the issues you highlighted is probably due to the oil not circulating for months at a time as well as general neglect. 3. the stoichiometry is the same whether the car is driving 100km or 10,000km so in your example driving less means less water available to degrade the oil then? even the point is, everyone knows by know that the car left sitting for months on end are going to be problematic. perhaps my previous reply wasn't clear, i meant couple of months cumulatively. car is still driven frequently, just clocking low mileage. https://10carbest.com/how-long-does-synthetic-oil-last You can read & google your self. Even if you make short trip, the engine oil itself will still degrade once expose to environment. Our Malaysian weather is high humid and hot climate will put the engine oil at higher strain. |
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