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AT&T phasing out 3G in 2022, = old non-Volte phones won't work
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SUSlurkingaround
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 Jul 23 2020, 07:56 AM, updated 6y ago
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https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/22/21334221...g-shutdown-2022 - AT&T tells customers to buy new phones because their old ones will stop working...in 2022 - 22 July 2020 Afaik; This too will happen in Malaysia when 3G is phased out (maybe post-2025) = only newer phones that support Volte or voice-over-4G-LTE will continue to work wrt voice calls/SMS. Afaik, most phones that came new with Android 8.0 or above supports Volte. A few celcos do not yet support Volte, eg Maxis and TM Unifi Mobile(.?), ie their voice calls are still running only on their old 3G/2G cell tower networks. The other celcos may have voice calls running on both 4G and 3G to support both older and newer phones. Please discuss and give your inputs. .
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jul 23 2020, 08:23 AM) C&m will proudly launch their volte service by 2022 . C&m = Celcom and Maxis.? . |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 23 2020, 10:52 AM) I have read this before - The reason why AT&T phase out 3G so that they can recycle the frequency for 5G.. Meanwhile our MCMC has already given the green light for a new frequency for 5G so I dont see 3G going away soon. heck, sometimes I think its better they remain the 3G cause certain areas , the 4G signal is rather weak, so 3G is like a backup. In fact i still use 3G for just basic surfing and Whatsapp, just to conserve battery. . Certain celcos in Malaysia are also refarming 3G spectrums to 4G, eg ....... https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/04/23/u-mob...rcent-coverage/ - 23 April 2019 ''''''' U Mobile is also refarming part of its existing 3G spectrum especially the higher 2100MHz band for 4G use while maintaining 900MHz for 3G. U Mobile is also retaining its nationwide 2G domestic roaming arrangement with Maxis which provides wider coverage for calls and SMS nationwide. ''''''' U Mobile's 3G Internet speed is very slow = about 1Mbps only. Because Celcom, a GLC, services many rural areas and small towns, it should be the last celco to refarm its 3G spectrum to 4G or 5G, maybe in 2030. The phasing out of 3G in Malaysia is only a matter of time, similar to the eventual phasing out of 2G. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jul 23 2020, 12:47 PM |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(AwakeFever @ Jul 23 2020, 12:25 PM) I don’t think it will happen anytime soon in Malaysia. First, telco that does support volte in Malaysia like Digi didn’t even officially allow Xiaomi or Oneplus users to use volte even though Xiaomi and Oneplus phones does support volte. Plus our 2G network is not even switched off yet...so why will 3G network will be switched off earlier than 2G in our country? Btw, unifi mobile does support volte. . Thank you for correcting that TM Unifi Mobile supports Volte. . |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(PJng @ Jul 23 2020, 10:57 AM) i see most call capable tablet still does not support VOLTE . What about the high-end Samsung Tab 6 LTE/cellular and iPad Pro LTE.? . |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(AwakeFever @ Jul 23 2020, 12:25 PM) I don’t think it will happen anytime soon in Malaysia. First, telco that does support volte in Malaysia like Digi didn’t even officially allow Xiaomi or Oneplus users to use volte even though Xiaomi and Oneplus phones does support volte. Plus our 2G network is not even switched off yet...so why will 3G network will be switched off earlier than 2G in our country? Btw, unifi mobile does support volte. . Wonder why Digi Volte "bully" Xiaomi and Oneplus.? Must pay certain fees to Digi to be "certified" for Volte.? Just asking. . |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(JLA @ Jul 23 2020, 04:02 PM) we gsm country follow eroupe not amerikan celullar standard. eroupe still got 2G 3G until duno lazy to check. some telco turn off 2G some 3G . https://www.straitstimes.com/tech/smartphon...etwork-shutdown - All you need to know about 2G network shutdown - March 28, 2017 ''''''' SINGAPORE - From April 1, Singapore's 2G mobile network will be gradually shut down, with a complete cessation of 2G mobile services by April 18. In other words, you won't be able to make calls, send SMS/MMS or use mobile data with a 2G mobile phone. ''''''' . https://www.telecomasia.net/content/thailan...2g-shutdown-oct - Thailand to mandate 2G shutdown in Oct - Dec 21, 2018 ''''''' Thai telecoms regulator NBTC has set a schedule for the mandated shutdown of 2G networks across the country in order to free up capacity for 5G deployment.
The regulator has ordered an end to all 2G services by October 2019, the Bangkok Post reported. ''''''' . Malaysia should also be shutting down 2G soon, in order to refarm its frequencies for 4G or 5G. But 3G will remain for quite a while in Malaysia, eg may be shutdowned to refarm its frequencies for the future 6G. . |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(AwakeFever @ Jul 23 2020, 04:12 PM) Does Samsung Tab S6 still can make voice call without pairing with a phone? I know we can't make voice calls on a cellular iPad...then what's the point of having volte support on it?  You are quite right. There are other Android tablets that have built-in phone-calling/sms function, ie no need to be paired to a smartphone. . QUOTE I believe not only digi "bully" Xiaomi and Oneplus. If you try to check on Xiaomi and Oneplus phone forum on lowyat, other telco that support volte like unifi mobile or u mobile still don't officially enable volte on Xiaomi and Oneplus phones. But of course some users who knows how to tinker on their phone may able to enable volte function on their Xiaomi and Oneplus phones but the problem is not everyone knows how to do it. I have no idea about this. Sorry. . |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(JLA @ Jul 23 2020, 08:13 PM) small island senang urus thailand u-turn  india shutdown 3G keep alive 2G https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/no-...2432537709.html. https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/494629 - GSMA: M'sia should take gradual and cautious steps for 5G - Oct 5, 2019 ''''''' Granryd said the 5G technology would provide firm support for daily activities, allow smooth business transactions and be more economical, as maintenance for 3G technology would be expensive over time with the rapid advancement in global technology.
“3G maintenance is more expensive than 5G because it is old technology. The higher the G, the more efficient it becomes due to more built-in intelligent solutions.
“Eventually, vendors would stop manufacturing 3G and possibly 2G technology products. So from that perspective, it will be more complicated to do maintenance for the network,” he added.
From the global perspective, Granryd said that operators are slowly phasing out 2G and some of their 3G network infrastructure to keep up with technological advancements.
“The 2G network only offers good connectivity from the voice perspective, whereas 3G technology is in-between 2G and 4G. Hence, some operators have decided to shut down 3G and focus on 4G, and that could be the way forward for Malaysia,” he said. ''''''' . |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 23 2020, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(JLA @ Jul 23 2020, 11:21 PM) Many European mobile network operators have confirmed that they will remove support for their 3G networks from 2020 onwards: Other regions such as North America and Asia have shut down their 2G networks first, so why is Europe different? 4G LTE can do anything 3G does but better and more cost effectively, so nobody is really interested in 3G in Europe today Re-farming of 3G bands can boost 4G LTE networks making its sunset more valuable to operators 2G still supports low cost, large footprint coverage making it a better fail back technology from 4G LTE than 3G 2G is also still highly used for M2M/IoT applications – in fact, two thirds of operators cited this as a reason for continuing to support their 2G networks for longer https://www.westbase.io/3g-sunset-in-europe...our-next-steps/. Very good information.  . |
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 24 2020, 11:09 AM
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https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/23/21336397...lte-2021-5g-lte - T-Mobile will reportedly dump some phones from its network — and even sooner than AT&T - VoLTE will reportedly be required on T-Mobile starting in 2021 - Jul 23, 2020 . Afaik; What happens in USA, technology-wise, will usually also often happen in Malaysia 1 or 2 years later. Eg USA launched 5G in Jan 2020. Malaysia should be launching 5G in 2021. So, we should get ready with Volte-capable devices by 2023 when 3G will likely be phased out in Malaysia. .
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SUSlurkingaround
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Jul 24 2020, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(AwakeFever @ Jul 24 2020, 05:10 PM) Aiya, do you ever been to any rural areas in East Malaysia or not? You have to understand that not every places got stable 4G signals. Let say if you travelled from KK, Sabah to any rural areas in Sabah you can receive stable 4G signals then you can switch it off early. But based on my experience, going to rural area like Tambunan only 70% on top of my phone's screen will show my telco name...other time you will only see "emergency calls only". So do you think it is a good choice to switch off 3G in 3 years time? Don't forget they will also improve 3G network according to NFCP project. Do you think they will switch off the equipment that they just install invest few years before 2023? . There are also many resident in rural areas in USA without cellular service, eg farmers and cattlers. . |
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