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cbkhoo1492006
post Mar 5 2025, 07:54 AM

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Sorry for reviving this topic.

Summary, edition can't use for business/commercial purposes:
- Windows (Home, Education) must use Pro
- Office (Home, Home & Student, and maybe Business & Student) must use Pro
- WPS free

What about, let say, a small shop with maybe 4 PC:
- All PC initially has Win 10 Home license, but were then formatted to Win 10 Pro with digital license linked to shop owner Microsoft personal account.
- 3 of 4 PC has valid retail license (product key) but were purchased thru personal non-official channel, then all linked to shop owner Microsoft account to become digital license.
- Last PC has Win digital license transferred from a broke down PC (Win 7 Pro then upgraded Win 10 Pro using Win 7 key) linked to shop owner Microsoft personal account.
- All PC were not using neither Microsoft Office or WPS but LibreOffice.

If the shop was raided by KPDNKK (with BSA and Microsoft representative), will they issue any summon to shop owner?
If not mistaken according to LibreOffice website, LibreOffice is Open License and free to use in commercial. So, will Microsoft representative said LibreOffice is illegal to use in commercial and force owner to buy Office and ditch LibreOffice?

Thanks.

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post Mar 5 2025, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(cbkhoo1492006 @ Mar 5 2025, 07:54 AM)
Sorry for reviving this topic.

Summary, edition can't use for business/commercial purposes:
- Windows (Home, Education) must use Pro
- Office (Home, Home & Student, and maybe Business & Student) must use Pro
- WPS free

What about, let say, a small shop with maybe 4 PC:
- All PC initially has Win 10 Home license, but were then formatted to Win 10 Pro with digital license linked to shop owner Microsoft personal account.
- 3 of 4 PC has valid retail license (product key) but were purchased thru personal non-official channel, then all linked to shop owner Microsoft account to become digital license.
- Last PC has Win digital license transferred from a broke down PC (Win 7 Pro then upgraded Win 10 Pro using Win 7 key) linked to shop owner Microsoft personal account.
- All PC were not using neither Microsoft Office or WPS but LibreOffice.

If the shop was raided by KPDNKK (with BSA and Microsoft representative), will they issue any summon to shop owner?
If not mistaken according to LibreOffice website, LibreOffice is Open License and free to use in commercial. So, will Microsoft representative said LibreOffice is illegal to use in commercial and force owner to buy Office and ditch LibreOffice?

Thanks.
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You have your right to use other office suite, they can't force you to use MS Office
Like, you could be in the Google camp and use their Docs/Sheets/Presentations software in the browser and MS cannot stop you from doing that.

LibreOffice is free for all, they have partners offer paid tech support/consulting , but otherwise the core office suite is free for anyone to use.

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/freque...ons#usebusiness

As for Windows license... not sure, I think best if you can show the keys used. but what source are they from? If it's like cheap shopee keys, dont think those would be good for this case.



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post Mar 6 2025, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(cbkhoo1492006 @ Mar 5 2025, 07:54 AM)
Sorry for reviving this topic.

Summary, edition can't use for business/commercial purposes:
- Windows (Home, Education) must use Pro
- Office (Home, Home & Student, and maybe Business & Student) must use Pro
- WPS free

What about, let say, a small shop with maybe 4 PC:
- All PC initially has Win 10 Home license, but were then formatted to Win 10 Pro with digital license linked to shop owner Microsoft personal account.
- 3 of 4 PC has valid retail license (product key) but were purchased thru personal non-official channel, then all linked to shop owner Microsoft account to become digital license.
- Last PC has Win digital license transferred from a broke down PC (Win 7 Pro then upgraded Win 10 Pro using Win 7 key) linked to shop owner Microsoft personal account.
- All PC were not using neither Microsoft Office or WPS but LibreOffice.

If the shop was raided by KPDNKK (with BSA and Microsoft representative), will they issue any summon to shop owner?
If not mistaken according to LibreOffice website, LibreOffice is Open License and free to use in commercial. So, will Microsoft representative said LibreOffice is illegal to use in commercial and force owner to buy Office and ditch LibreOffice?

Thanks.
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Microsoft come also check their own product only... what say do they have if you use WPS or LibreOffice?
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post Jun 20 2025, 09:12 AM

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I did a quick check for the EULA. Couldn't find the home edition but the OEM edition eula had a few places where it said commercial use was not allowed. The Win10 oem eula looked the same as Win11 oem,.

https://www.microsoft.com/content/dam/micro..._11_English.pdf


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To the extent included with Windows, Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote are
licensed for your personal, non-commercial use, unless you have commercial use
rights under a separate agreement.

this license does not
give you any right to, and you may not (and you may not permit any other person or
entity to):
........
use the software as server software or to operate the device as a server, except as
permitted under Section 2(d)(iii) below; use the software to offer commercial
hosting services; make the software available for simultaneous use by more than
one user over a network, except as permitted under Section 2(d)(vi) below; install
the software on a server for remote access or use over a network; or install the
software on a device for use only by remote users;

H.264/AVC and MPEG-4 visual standards and VC-1 video standards. The software
may include H.264/MPEG-4 AVC and/or VC-1 decoding technology. MPEG LA, L.L.C.
requires this notice:
THIS PRODUCT IS LICENSED UNDER THE AVC, THE VC-1, AND THE MPEG-4 PART 2
VISUAL PATENT PORTFOLIO LICENSES FOR THE PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL
USE


The first part is about included Word/Excel/Powerpoint which doesn't apply.

The 2nd part only deals with server/hosting so if its used as a standalone device with no remote access, it should be ok.

The 3rd part says that the videos decoders is not for commercial use. So still quite weak justification for Microsoft/KPDN to raid and fine.

I'm not a lawyer and there could be things that I missed.


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