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 JRK CONVENA (LRT MUHIBBAH TOD PROJECT), A project by JRK Group

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post Mar 4 2021, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(KL Low @ Mar 3 2021, 11:52 AM)
I have read all the comments and views on rosewoodz and convena. 真系公有理婆又有理。i bought my first property in 1983 and the latest in 2017 for my son. My own personal advices to the Gen X and Y which are not exhaustive and may not be acceptable by many are as follows:

1) The location of the property of the property is of utmost importance.
2) Tandem parking is totally unacceptable.
3) Do not be overly disturbed by freehold and leasehold projects. If a property which is leasehold in a good location can provide you with all the conveniences in terms of shopping, banking , medical facilities within walking distances or a few minutes of driving and provide you with a consistant rental income over a long period and capital appreciation in line with inflation rate, why bother whether it is freehold or leasehold. Of course if the above  benefits accompanied by freehold status, it is an added advantage.
4) IF you are worried about the cementary, noise created by lrt, high tension wire, squatters and old flats , drop your plan to buy and look for another area.
5) The views of the so called professional agents are for reference only. You have to do a bit of homework yourself before committing. Views from the old time investorscan be of great help. Many times i realise people are entice to buy base on the impressive show room unit.
House prices definitely rise in the long term due to inflation, scarcity of land and escalating building materials. It is important for first time buyers using hard earned money to exercise caution in buying your dream home.
Lastly, i quote Lee Kah Seng of Hong Kong. 宁愿买贵, 万万别买错。
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since when Lee Kah Seng quoted it? lol

Unker you have a few points there. I personally think location is the prime consideration of buying a house. Tandem is unacceptable but unavoidable due to the space issues. Freehold and leasehold condo has no big issue but when in landed must avoid buying leasehold, it is not guarantee renewable, and they can takeaway without compensate landlord, rent a house if is looking for conveniences.

Lastly, I quote Tun M of Malaysia. Beli rumah bukan beli sayur.
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post Mar 5 2021, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Amirul_8410111 @ Mar 4 2021, 11:58 PM)
since when Lee Kah Seng quoted it? lol

Unker you have a few points there. I personally think location is the prime consideration of buying a house. Tandem is unacceptable but unavoidable due to the space issues. Freehold and leasehold condo has no big issue but when in landed must avoid buying leasehold, it is not guarantee renewable, and they can takeaway without compensate landlord, rent a house if is looking for conveniences.

Lastly, I quote Tun M of Malaysia. Beli rumah bukan beli sayur.
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I could not remember when did he say it. It could be years ago at investment seminars, annual shareholders meetings or in answering questions from fund managers or public investors. I definitely read it from print media. His opinion will not be recorded in history book , right? After sometimes people will also cannot remember when did Tun M mention ' Beli rumah bukan beli sayur'.
Thanks for raising some valid points for further constructive discussioms for the benefits of first time buyers.But i still insist my stand that tandem parking is to be avoided even for the owner occupiers.
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post Mar 11 2021, 05:45 PM

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I've been very disappointed to this developer. Initially I've placed a booking on this project, few months later I've decided to withdraw as I'm not so confident to this developer. However, it took 3 months since last year December until now, I still yet to receive any refund from the Developer.

When I decided to place for a booking, the agent chased for my booking fees from day to night, when come to refund, yeah three months and still processing.

Just my two cents, how should a developer keep their reputation by doing all these tricks just to maintain their cash flows? I wonder how many of people out there, having same issue just like me?
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post Mar 11 2021, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(josephine93yann @ Mar 11 2021, 05:45 PM)
I've been very disappointed to this developer. Initially I've placed a booking on this project, few months later I've decided to withdraw as I'm not so confident to this developer. However, it took 3 months since last year December until now, I still yet to receive any refund from the Developer.

When I decided to place for a booking, the agent chased for my booking fees from day to night, when come to refund, yeah three months and still processing.

Just my two cents, how should a developer keep their reputation by doing all these tricks just to maintain their cash flows? I wonder how many of people out there, having same issue just like me?
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They cannot collect deposit from you in the first place. Go get a lawyer to issue letter demanding them for refund. The law has been very clear cut they cannot collect anything. If the blame is shifted to the agency then you also can complain and action can be taken against the principal by the Board and also KPKT
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post Mar 12 2021, 10:53 AM

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is there a owner's group/chat that has been created for this project? thanks!
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post Mar 12 2021, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(xlss @ Mar 11 2021, 07:24 PM)
They cannot collect deposit from you in the first place. Go get a lawyer to issue letter demanding them for refund. The law has been very clear cut they cannot collect anything. If the blame is shifted to the agency then you also can complain and action can be taken against the principal by the Board and also KPKT
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They collected 3k booking fee from me, until now yet to receive my refund.
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post Mar 12 2021, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(josephine93yann @ Mar 12 2021, 01:53 PM)
They collected 3k booking fee from me, until now yet to receive my refund.
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Just share the agent profile in Facebook.

This post has been edited by ryan@chua: Mar 12 2021, 12:56 PM
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post Mar 12 2021, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(josephine93yann @ Mar 12 2021, 12:53 PM)
They collected 3k booking fee from me, until now yet to receive my refund.
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maybe is fake agent.
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QUOTE(josephine93yann @ Mar 12 2021, 12:53 PM)
They collected 3k booking fee from me, until now yet to receive my refund.
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how and whom the booking fee is paid to?
directly to dev or ?
lollipopkan
post Mar 12 2021, 04:25 PM

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Refund takes 21 working days and 2 bank rejection letters.

Either your agent cannot collect 2 bank rejection letters for you or your agent is hoarding the unit.


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post Mar 14 2021, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(josephine93yann @ Mar 11 2021, 05:45 PM)
I've been very disappointed to this developer. Initially I've placed a booking on this project, few months later I've decided to withdraw as I'm not so confident to this developer. However, it took 3 months since last year December until now, I still yet to receive any refund from the Developer.

When I decided to place for a booking, the agent chased for my booking fees from day to night, when come to refund, yeah three months and still processing.

Just my two cents, how should a developer keep their reputation by doing all these tricks just to maintain their cash flows? I wonder how many of people out there, having same issue just like me?
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post Mar 18 2021, 01:29 PM

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This post has been edited by lollipopkan: Jun 16 2021, 01:23 AM
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post Mar 18 2021, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(lollipopkan @ Mar 18 2021, 01:29 PM)
I have noticed there is fear and doubt on the land behind jrk convena being used as cemetery in the future so here is my findings:

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Blue is jrk convena, red is imigresen depot and yellow is land that we are all curious. Based on what ryan@chua posted on aug 29 2020 in this thread, which comes from an article named "Issue on Cemetery & Crematorium at Bukit Jalil" by a website mutiara bukit jalil's blog, the land behind is amended as of 2011-ish for the KL City Plan 2020, based on the blog.

The latest Kuala Lumpur Structure Plan 2040 shows that the land behind jrk convena is not for cemetery purpose.

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And also according to Kuala Lumpur Structure Plan 2040, the big land behind can be separated into vacant land and residential land so I THINK it's possible the land sunway bought is the land behind jrk convena.
To support why I think so, I saw iproperty article, titled "Sunway acquires Prime Bukit Jalil lands near transit", about the purchase stated that the land is just 600m from taman muhibah lrt station.
Jrk convena advertises as being 300m from taman muhibah lrt station so I think adding another 300m from the entrance of the "possible sunway project" behind the jrk convena is reasonable-ish. 

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Most of my findings are based on pdf files named "DRAFT KUALA LUMPUR STRUCTURE PLAN 2040" by dbkl posted on their official website. Curious to know what you guys think. Cheers!
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Can you share the download link for the DBKL 2040 plan pdf file? I not able to find it in their website. Thanks!
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post Mar 18 2021, 02:33 PM

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abuse of the term TOD .... few hundred metre walking distance away vs. transit oriented developer is totally a different thing.

those marketing ppl in developer office now all really simply simply only.

The surrounding of this project is really not appealing ... at ALL ... now. Need to see whether Sunway can do wonder to this surrounding.

Bottomline is...a project tat is so close to industry/factory lot and PPR usually will be the forgetable one after initial launching hype.

This belong the last of its kinda along this stretch of road means it has the higher entry price resulting in it being not as competitive as upcoming Platinum or even the existing Casa, ZResidence or Kiara 1&2 in terms of rental ROI
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post Mar 18 2021, 02:37 PM

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I am very confident this project wont be good for investment ... at all..

it is just riding on the bukit jalil hype now and so happen there is a LRT few hundred metre away. This is absolutely a very forgettable project after its launching
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post Mar 18 2021, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(jetzxp @ Mar 18 2021, 03:32 PM)
Can you share the download link for the DBKL 2040 plan pdf file? I not able to find it in their website. Thanks!
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Just google "draft kuala umpur structure plan 2040" and you will find it.
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post Mar 18 2021, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(xlss @ Mar 18 2021, 03:37 PM)
I am very confident this project wont be good for investment ... at all..

it is just riding on the bukit jalil hype now and so happen there is a LRT few hundred metre away. This is absolutely a very forgettable project after its launching
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Would have been selling above 700psf if it is riding the bukit jalil hype, if there is any at all.
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post Mar 19 2021, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(lollipopkan @ Mar 18 2021, 01:29 PM)
I have noticed there is fear and doubt on the land behind jrk convena being used as cemetery in the future so here is my findings:

user posted image

Blue is jrk convena, red is imigresen depot and yellow is land that we are all curious. Based on what ryan@chua posted on aug 29 2020 in this thread, which comes from an article named "Issue on Cemetery & Crematorium at Bukit Jalil" by a website mutiara bukit jalil's blog, the land behind is amended as of 2011-ish for the KL City Plan 2020, based on the blog.

The latest Kuala Lumpur Structure Plan 2040 shows that the land behind jrk convena is not for cemetery purpose.

user posted image

And also according to Kuala Lumpur Structure Plan 2040, the big land behind can be separated into vacant land and residential land so I THINK it's possible the land sunway bought is the land behind jrk convena.
To support why I think so, I saw iproperty article, titled "Sunway acquires Prime Bukit Jalil lands near transit", about the purchase stated that the land is just 600m from taman muhibah lrt station.
Jrk convena advertises as being 300m from taman muhibah lrt station so I think adding another 300m from the entrance of the "possible sunway project" behind the jrk convena is reasonable-ish. 

user posted image

Most of my findings are based on pdf files named "DRAFT KUALA LUMPUR STRUCTURE PLAN 2040" by dbkl posted on their official website. Curious to know what you guys think. Cheers!
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No, is not sunway land. Sunway bought one is at the como there. Jalan Tiara, Mutiara Bukit Jalil there.

OSC (B) S3 200813-001 (P2-A15 200813) : CADANGAN PEMBANGUNAN BERCAMPUR YANG MENGANDUNGI:- 1) BLOK PERDAGANGAN: I. PANGSAPURI SERVIS 25 TINGKAT (299 UNIT) II. ARAS 9-33 (UNIT PANGSAPURI) III. ARAS 8 (KEMUDAHAN AWAM SERTA KOLAM RENANG) IV. ARAS 5-7 (TEMPAT LETAK KERETA) V. ARAS 1-4 (KEDAI RETAIL-PERDAGANGAN) VI. BASEMENT 1-3 (TEMPAT LETAK KERETA) 2) 3 BLOK PANGSAPURI (748 UNIT): A) BLOK AA DAN BLOK AB (436 UNIT) ARAS 9-36 I.ARAS 8 (KEMUDAHAN AWAM SERTA KOLAM RENANG) II. ARAS 1-7 (TEMPAT LETAK KERETA) B) BLOK B (312 UNIT) ARAS 10-32 I. ARAS 9 (KEMUDAHAN AWAM SERTA KOLAM RENANG) II. ARAS 1-8 (TEMPAT LETAK KERETA) DI ATAS LOT 45406-45408, 45458-45472, 45496-45517, 45519-45522, LOT 101611 DAN LOT PT 81626, PT 15369, JALAN TIARA, MUTIARA BUKIT JALIL, MUKIM PETALING, KUALA LUMPUR UNTUK TETUAN STERLING PARADISE SDN. BHD. oleh TETUAN STERLING PARADISE SDN BHD LEVEL 1-3 & 5, MENARA SUNWAY JALAN LAGOON TIMUR, BANDAR SUNWAY 47500 SUBANG JAYA, SELANGOR DARUL EHSAN di Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur


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QUOTE(Windzneom @ Mar 19 2021, 01:19 PM)
No, is not sunway land. Sunway bought one is at the como there. Jalan Tiara, Mutiara Bukit Jalil there.

OSC (B) S3 200813-001 (P2-A15 200813) : CADANGAN PEMBANGUNAN BERCAMPUR YANG MENGANDUNGI:- 1) BLOK PERDAGANGAN: I. PANGSAPURI SERVIS 25 TINGKAT (299 UNIT) II. ARAS 9-33 (UNIT PANGSAPURI) III. ARAS 8 (KEMUDAHAN AWAM SERTA KOLAM RENANG) IV. ARAS 5-7 (TEMPAT LETAK KERETA) V. ARAS 1-4 (KEDAI RETAIL-PERDAGANGAN) VI. BASEMENT 1-3 (TEMPAT LETAK KERETA) 2) 3 BLOK PANGSAPURI (748 UNIT): A) BLOK AA DAN BLOK AB (436 UNIT) ARAS 9-36 I.ARAS 8 (KEMUDAHAN AWAM SERTA KOLAM RENANG) II. ARAS 1-7 (TEMPAT LETAK KERETA) B) BLOK B (312 UNIT) ARAS 10-32 I. ARAS 9 (KEMUDAHAN AWAM SERTA KOLAM RENANG) II. ARAS 1-8 (TEMPAT LETAK KERETA) DI ATAS LOT 45406-45408, 45458-45472, 45496-45517, 45519-45522, LOT 101611 DAN LOT PT 81626, PT 15369, JALAN TIARA, MUTIARA BUKIT JALIL, MUKIM PETALING, KUALA LUMPUR UNTUK TETUAN STERLING PARADISE SDN. BHD. oleh TETUAN STERLING PARADISE SDN BHD LEVEL 1-3 & 5, MENARA SUNWAY JALAN LAGOON TIMUR, BANDAR SUNWAY 47500 SUBANG JAYA, SELANGOR DARUL EHSAN di Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur
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According to wikimapia, that location is part of the como project?

And the rentention pond part of sungai kuyoh and its nearby is a forest reserve area?

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QUOTE(lollipopkan @ Mar 19 2021, 12:36 PM)
According to wikimapia, that location is part of the como project?

And the rentention pond part of sungai kuyoh and its nearby is a forest reserve area?

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Not so sure but if according to the dbkl application, should be around there.

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